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larsIU
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Posted by: @bar-down

at my house i just open the garage door and leave a cooler full of beer and gatorade

Address?

 


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Posted : 07/01/2026 10:23 am
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

https://twitter.com/endwokeness/status/2072134134932369713?s=46

@twenty what does the Cato Institute say about the benefits of socialists immigration?    

I could read the title now, "Socialists immigrants lower healthcare and welfare costs as policies kill off large percentages of populations!" 

 snarlcakes deciding immigration quotas and which countries we prefer is difficult IMO.

Difficulty is increased when politics enters the picture. A Republican, for example, might think a Black or immigrant from a "socialist country" will upon becoming a citizen vote for Democrats.

Democrats, on the other hand, might prefer to have Blacks and immigrants from leftist countries become citizens. 

Like so many issues, politics has become fundamental to our democracy with the birth of political parties. Is it a birth which has stymied reaching consensus on vital issues facing our country such as how to deal with immigration? 

 


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Posted : 07/01/2026 11:02 am
HurryingHoosiers
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Posted by: @bar-down

@hurryinghoosiers adults are talking.  Piss off.  The left opened the border via title 42 asylum agreements remain in Mexico etc.

why are you here then if the adults are talking?

The border was never "open" and Trump torpedoed the attempt to help address actual border issues because he wanted to campaign on the issue.

 


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Posted : 07/01/2026 11:15 am
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@hurryinghoosiers 

During the Biden administration, U.S. Customs and Border Protection recorded roughly 11 million nationwide migrant encounters, including about 8 million at the U.S.-Mexico border.

Under the Trump administration, illegal border crossings and migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border have plummeted to their lowest levels in over 50 years. Driven by strict enforcement policies and the end of the "catch and release" practice, the U.S. has recorded over a year of consecutive months with zero migrant releases into the interior of the country

 

Go sell stupid somewhere else. 


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Posted : 07/01/2026 11:19 am
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HurryingHoosiers
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Posted by: @bar-down

@hurryinghoosiers 

During the Biden administration, U.S. Customs and Border Protection recorded roughly 11 million nationwide migrant encounters, including about 8 million at the U.S.-Mexico border.

Under the Trump administration, illegal border crossings and migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border have plummeted to their lowest levels in over 50 years. Driven by strict enforcement policies and the end of the "catch and release" practice, the U.S. has recorded over a year of consecutive months with zero migrant releases into the interior of the country

 

Go sell stupid somewhere else. 

You're full up on stupid.  Nothing I can sell you there 😉

 


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Posted : 07/01/2026 11:36 am
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@hurryinghoosiers 

are you really arguing the border was a mess under trump and not biden?  and you have the temerity to call me stupid?  i'm not giving you opinions.  i'm telling you facts.  the numbers speak for themselves.  what happened speaks for itself.  the left opened the border becaues they want desperate people to vote for them because desperate people combined with very low iq people like yourself give dems the best chance of winning.  how did they open the border?  title 42, remain in mexico, asylum agreemetns, rhetoric, funding, and the numbers speak for themselves.  so if you are going to just come on teh board and lie you lose all credibility.  you are the worst poster in the history of all of the boards hickory


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Posted : 07/01/2026 11:40 am
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

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Posted by: @bar-down

@aloha-hoosier dbm is right and you are wrong and not for the stated reasons.  their intent doesnt' matter. reality matters.  and dbm is right at the end of the day as 60 percent of noncitizen head of households are taking public assistance.  markedly higher than us citizens.  we cannot afford these people.  why do dems love them?  because it's a party of bottom of feeders?  people who can't do for themselves.  betas.  cucks.   people who need the government to provide for them so they attract and promote and reach out for people who are desperate to garner their votes: i.e. immigrants.

get off trump bullshit and get with the program. again you're stepping over dollars to chase pennies 

They account for far less welfare spending dollar-wise, however. Especially the undocumented, because the only programs they are eligible for are nowhere near the largest drivers of welfare spending (like, say, school lunch and EITC, and so forth).

I'd flip your question around: Why don't Repubs love them? A lot of immigrants - especially Hispanic immigrants - are natural Republicans. They are socially and religiously conservative. Culturally, they have a work ethic that is centered on working hard and keeping what you earn. They are not big fans of big government (bad experiences with big government is one of the reasons they are here). If the GOP had targeted them and gotten them on board with their Pull Yourself Up Por Sus Propios Medios ideology, you'd have a generation of young Hispanic Americans having been raised on the dream of the City on the Hill. Instead, that generation has drifted off into Marxworld, having received zero welcome from the right.

 

Hispanics are more likely to be sh#t libs.  They vote for liberals more often than conservatives.  They are still much preferred to Muslims.  

 

 

The problem is most immigrants move to urban areas.  They start thinking high cost of living and random violence are just the price you pay for being around good restaurants and bars.  

 


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Posted : 07/01/2026 2:37 pm
Ohio Guy
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

That is how hated the Irish were, they felt they were beneath slaves. 

 

My uncle has an old sign in his house that reads, "No Irish Need Apply" 

My ancestors arrived here around the late 1860s/early 1870s and I've heard the stories passed down about the challenges they faced. 


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Posted : 07/01/2026 4:45 pm
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Posted by: @ohio-guy

Posted by: @arthur-dent

That is how hated the Irish were, they felt they were beneath slaves. 

 

My uncle has an old sign in his house that reads, "No Irish Need Apply" 

My ancestors arrived here around the late 1860s/early 1870s and I've heard the stories passed down about the challenges they faced. 

I have an old sign thr says, “Sailors and dogs keep off the grass.” 

 


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Posted : 07/01/2026 6:59 pm
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