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BradStevens
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Posted by: @goat

zero welcome from the right.

GWB courted them back in the day.  


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Topic starter Posted : 06/30/2026 7:25 pm
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I could work the drive through at McDonald's and as a family of 4 with my wife not working we would earn too much to qualify.

That's not true. Do the math. If you work a McD's drive through in NYC at average wage, for 40/hours every single week, you'll still fall $10K below the cutoff for Medicaid eligibility for a family of 4.

At $20 an hour which is about what they start at there and 45 hours a week you are just there.

 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:25 pm
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@aloha-hoosier dbm is right and you are wrong and not for the stated reasons.  their intent doesnt' matter. reality matters.  and dbm is right at the end of the day as 60 percent of noncitizen head of households are taking public assistance.  markedly higher than us citizens.  we cannot afford these people.  why do dems love them?  because it's a party of bottom of feeders?  people who can't do for themselves.  betas.  cucks.   people who need the government to provide for them so they attract and promote and reach out for people who are desperate to garner their votes: i.e. immigrants.

get off trump bullshit and get with the program. again you're stepping over dollars to chase pennies 

They account for far less welfare spending dollar-wise, however. Especially the undocumented, because the only programs they are eligible for are nowhere near the largest drivers of welfare spending (like, say, school lunch and EITC, and so forth).

I'd flip your question around: Why don't Repubs love them? A lot of immigrants - especially Hispanic immigrants - are natural Republicans. They are socially and religiously conservative. Culturally, they have a work ethic that is centered on working hard and keeping what you earn. They are not big fans of big government (bad experiences with big government is one of the reasons they are here). If the GOP had targeted them and gotten them on board with their Pull Yourself Up Por Sus Propios Medios ideology, you'd have a generation of young Hispanic Americans having been raised on the dream of the City on the Hill. Instead, that generation has drifted off into Marxworld, having received zero welcome from the right.

 

Hispanics are more likely to be sh#t libs.  They vote for liberals more often than conservatives.  They are still much preferred to Muslims.  

 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:25 pm
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@snarlcakes and theyre hustlers workers love family and soccer players.  let em in.  final judgment.


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:27 pm
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Posted by: @bar-down

@goat that's a different conversation and relates to what groups better align with our "values."  that's a population the united states should covet imo.  but the dem approach is throw it against the wall.  open it up to anyone thereby increasing the odds of desperation and the welfare state that the socialist dem party so loves

We shouldn't covet any cheap labor.  Especially, in an era of AI and big government. 

 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:29 pm
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@snarlcakes ai can't do what they do.  the skins will do shit no human wants to do without complaint and in tiny jeans.  at my house i just open the garage door and leave a cooler full of beer and gatorade and they don't leave until they're done

but at this point no man can actually call himself a democrat.  it'd be beyond embarrassing. 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:33 pm
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@snarlcakes and theyre hustlers workers love family and soccer players.  let em in.  final judgment.

No.  We don't need more soccer fans.  The first 2 questions of the immigration exam are below.

Question 1: Draw Muhammad 

Question 2: Write a paragraph explaining why soccer is super ghey.  

If they leave either of the questions blank, they're instantly rejected. 

 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:34 pm
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@snarlcakes 🤣


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:35 pm
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I could work the drive through at McDonald's and as a family of 4 with my wife not working we would earn too much to qualify.

That's not true. Do the math. If you work a McD's drive through in NYC at average wage, for 40/hours every single week, you'll still fall $10K below the cutoff for Medicaid eligibility for a family of 4.

At $20 an hour which is about what they start at there and 45 hours a week you are just there.

 

First of all, no, the average starting pay at McDs in NYC is closer to $17. Second, LOL if you think your fast food manager paying you $17/hr is going to let you get OT. The minute you hit 39:59, he's taking over your headset and making you clock out.

 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:37 pm
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@snarlcakes I’ll add another incredible quality. Hispanics aren’t afraid of heights.  Above ten feet and I’m in a panic.  Skins will climb 200 feet on a ladder made of cornstalks and string


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:38 pm
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Posted by: @goat

zero welcome from the right.

GWB courted them back in the day.  

And it helped him win both times.

 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:39 pm
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@snarlcakes I’ll add another incredible quality. Hispanics aren’t afraid of heights.  Above ten feet and I’m in a panic.  Skins will climb 200 feet on a ladder made of cornstalks and string

10 feet? I don't even feel comfortable on the bottom step of the ladder.

 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:40 pm
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@goat faxxxxxx


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:41 pm
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@aloha-hoosier dbm is right and you are wrong and not for the stated reasons.  their intent doesnt' matter. reality matters.  and dbm is right at the end of the day as 60 percent of noncitizen head of households are taking public assistance.  markedly higher than us citizens.  we cannot afford these people.  why do dems love them?  because it's a party of bottom of feeders?  people who can't do for themselves.  betas.  cucks.   people who need the government to provide for them so they attract and promote and reach out for people who are desperate to garner their votes: i.e. immigrants.

get off trump bullshit and get with the program. again you're stepping over dollars to chase pennies 

I didn’t mention Trump and it wasn’t about Trump in any way. It was about the asinine content of dbm’s post. We agree on eliminating illegal immigration but the difference is that my reasons for that desire are rational and factual and his is asinine and made up.

 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 7:41 pm
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@snarlcakes I’ll add another incredible quality. Hispanics aren’t afraid of heights.  Above ten feet and I’m in a panic.  Skins will climb 200 feet on a ladder made of cornstalks and string

lol....I lived in a town that was 90% white in the 90s.  The high school is now about 60% Hispanics.  The town didn't get any better.  It somehow managed to get shittier as anyone with aspirations moved away.    

I like Hispanics, and have plenty of Hispanic friends. One of my first baby dolls was BBL.    And some of my family is Hispanic, but the notion that it benefits the U.S. or we need it is a lie.  

Ironically, the group of people who became most against immigration was the 1st generation Hispanics.  They would get pissed when the 2nd and 3rd wave came and undercut their prices 🤣🤣

 


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