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Posted by: @fredom

This board has lost its mind.  We'd be much better off if we all voted like Aloha for a few election cycles.  Stop the madness.  They'll keep feeding us shit until we stop accepting shit.  

The Force is Strong in this one.....!!

 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 3:02 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

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A crushing loss. Like Bush did?  Or like Obama did? Or worse? 

What? Your questions make no sense. Bush and Obama DID crushing losses? 

You claimed MAGA is going to get crushed in the 26 and 28 elections. I was asking how many seats the GOP would lose in the House and Senate in those elections and if it would be worse than Bush and Obama.

For comparison:

Bush peaked at 232 House members and 55 senators.  When he left office the GOP had 178 House member and 40 Senators.  

Obama peaked at 257 House members and 60 senators  When he left office Democrats had 48 senators and 194 House members.

 

 

I didn’t make that claim. You were arguing with someone else about that. Butch maybe? I’ve merely said I would like to see election denying MAGAs crushed. I’d be OK with every one of those candidates losing. They won’t all lose, of course. 

 

No, it was you.  I was responding to this sentence in a previous post where you said, "I want to 86 the MAGA election denial stupidity and I think it's going to take a crushing loss in 2026 and 2028."

 

Move goalposts

Change rules midgame

Deny direct quotes/'don't be stupid'

It's a loser ethos

 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 3:08 pm
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Posted by: @fredom

This board has lost its mind.  We'd be much better off if we all voted like Aloha

Exactly.  You don’t need a mind to vote like Aloha. Ya just gotta know what was said about the 2020 election. 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 3:18 pm
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Posted : 07/24/2026 3:59 pm
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Posted by: @twenty

@aloha-hoosier I wouldn't really call Andy Biggs MAGA... He's pretty far right, probably closer to Thomas Massie and Chip Roy. He opposed all COVID spending when Trump was in office, for example. He opposes basically every spending bill. He's not really a Trump lap dog, and has been quite a pain in the ass for House Republican leadership. I believe he was in the small gang that took McCarthy down. 

 

I don't think he'll perform too well in a statewide election in a purple state in a difficult cycle for Republicans. He's also kind of a boring, cold fish, and I kind of doubt Trump will lend too much help. Arizona is a state full of people from somewhere else (like you) for the most part, so kind of difficult to predict general elections. But the right wing politics in Arizona can be pretty loony tunes when it comes to primaries. 

He’s a 2020 election denier. That means he’s a moron or thinks Republicans are morons. Either is disqualifying. He will not be getting my vote. Very likely I’ll be voting for a Democrat for Governor for the first time in my life. 

 

 

At least we can dispense with the “principled Republican” line you so often use. 

 

Oh, RINOS like Gilligan have principles...

If you don't like them, they have other principles...

 

It’s been clear for years you have no true admirable principles. I don’t know if you ever had any. You aren’t patriotic, don’t like Jews and love Russia. I guess that’s something. 

 

Don't spavin yourself trying to emit an original thought. Gilligan..

 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 4:25 pm
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Posted by: @twenty

@aloha-hoosier I wouldn't really call Andy Biggs MAGA... He's pretty far right, probably closer to Thomas Massie and Chip Roy. He opposed all COVID spending when Trump was in office, for example. He opposes basically every spending bill. He's not really a Trump lap dog, and has been quite a pain in the ass for House Republican leadership. I believe he was in the small gang that took McCarthy down. 

 

I don't think he'll perform too well in a statewide election in a purple state in a difficult cycle for Republicans. He's also kind of a boring, cold fish, and I kind of doubt Trump will lend too much help. Arizona is a state full of people from somewhere else (like you) for the most part, so kind of difficult to predict general elections. But the right wing politics in Arizona can be pretty loony tunes when it comes to primaries. 

He’s a 2020 election denier. That means he’s a moron or thinks Republicans are morons. Either is disqualifying. He will not be getting my vote. Very likely I’ll be voting for a Democrat for Governor for the first time in my life. 

 

Dont  you, too, think Republicans who voted for Trump are morons?

 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 4:49 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Dont  you, too, think Republicans who voted for Trump are morons?

I give those from 2016 a pass. But 2020 or 2024? Yeah, morons.


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Posted : 07/24/2026 4:52 pm
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Posted by: @twenty

@aloha-hoosier I wouldn't really call Andy Biggs MAGA... He's pretty far right, probably closer to Thomas Massie and Chip Roy. He opposed all COVID spending when Trump was in office, for example. He opposes basically every spending bill. He's not really a Trump lap dog, and has been quite a pain in the ass for House Republican leadership. I believe he was in the small gang that took McCarthy down. 

 

I don't think he'll perform too well in a statewide election in a purple state in a difficult cycle for Republicans. He's also kind of a boring, cold fish, and I kind of doubt Trump will lend too much help. Arizona is a state full of people from somewhere else (like you) for the most part, so kind of difficult to predict general elections. But the right wing politics in Arizona can be pretty loony tunes when it comes to primaries. 

He’s a 2020 election denier. That means he’s a moron or thinks Republicans are morons. Either is disqualifying. He will not be getting my vote. Very likely I’ll be voting for a Democrat for Governor for the first time in my life. 

 

Dont  you, too, think Republicans who voted for Trump are morons?

 

Not all of them. There are many that are. We have had horrible choices since 2016 too. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/24/2026 5:19 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @twenty

@aloha-hoosier I wouldn't really call Andy Biggs MAGA... He's pretty far right, probably closer to Thomas Massie and Chip Roy. He opposed all COVID spending when Trump was in office, for example. He opposes basically every spending bill. He's not really a Trump lap dog, and has been quite a pain in the ass for House Republican leadership. I believe he was in the small gang that took McCarthy down. 

 

I don't think he'll perform too well in a statewide election in a purple state in a difficult cycle for Republicans. He's also kind of a boring, cold fish, and I kind of doubt Trump will lend too much help. Arizona is a state full of people from somewhere else (like you) for the most part, so kind of difficult to predict general elections. But the right wing politics in Arizona can be pretty loony tunes when it comes to primaries. 

He’s a 2020 election denier. That means he’s a moron or thinks Republicans are morons. Either is disqualifying. He will not be getting my vote. Very likely I’ll be voting for a Democrat for Governor for the first time in my life. 

 

Dont  you, too, think Republicans who voted for Trump are morons?

 

Not all of them. There are many that are. We have had horrible choices since 2016 too. 

 

So why would it be disqualifying in a candidate to realize that those likely to vote for him are morons, when in fact, many are?  

 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 5:28 pm
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@bradstevens 

You're really reaching. 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 5:37 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Dont  you, too, think Republicans who voted for Trump are morons?

I give those from 2016 a pass. But 2020 or 2024? Yeah, morons.

Either don't give a pass for any years or flip 2016 and 2024.  If you're going call people morons learn to think just a tad.  

 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 6:42 pm
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Posted by: @unclemark

@bradstevens 

You're really reaching. 

Am I?

I understand saying election deniers are more concerned with their own power and interests than they are with the good of the country, and so that is disqualifying. I agree with it, too. 

I don't get it being disqualifying to think the electorate is dumb, especially if you also think they are dumb. 

 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 11:28 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

I understand saying election deniers are more concerned with their own power and interests than they are with the good of the country, and so that is disqualifying. I agree with it, too. 

I don’t understand why people get their undies in a bunch over 2020 election denials. We are years past when saying  that making any difference. It has become a meaningless throw away comment.  Frankly I’m more concerned with the No Kings crowd. Those people signal brain failures way beyond election denials. 


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Posted : 07/25/2026 12:13 am
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