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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @snarlcakes

A crushing loss. Like Bush did?  Or like Obama did? Or worse? 

What? Your questions make no sense. Bush and Obama DID crushing losses? 

You claimed MAGA is going to get crushed in the 26 and 28 elections. I was asking how many seats the GOP would lose in the House and Senate in those elections and if it would be worse than Bush and Obama.

For comparison:

Bush peaked at 232 House members and 55 senators.  When he left office the GOP had 178 House member and 40 Senators.  

Obama peaked at 257 House members and 60 senators  When he left office Democrats had 48 senators and 194 House members.

 

 


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Posted : 07/23/2026 4:03 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @snarlcakes

A crushing loss. Like Bush did?  Or like Obama did? Or worse? 

What? Your questions make no sense. Bush and Obama DID crushing losses? 

You claimed MAGA is going to get crushed in the 26 and 28 elections. I was asking how many seats the GOP would lose in the House and Senate in those elections and if it would be worse than Bush and Obama.

For comparison:

Bush peaked at 232 House members and 55 senators.  When he left office the GOP had 178 House member and 40 Senators.  

Obama peaked at 257 House members and 60 senators  When he left office Democrats had 48 senators and 194 House members.

 

 

I didn’t make that claim. You were arguing with someone else about that. Butch maybe? I’ve merely said I would like to see election denying MAGAs crushed. I’d be OK with every one of those candidates losing. They won’t all lose, of course. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/23/2026 4:12 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @snarlcakes

A crushing loss. Like Bush did?  Or like Obama did? Or worse? 

What? Your questions make no sense. Bush and Obama DID crushing losses? 

You claimed MAGA is going to get crushed in the 26 and 28 elections. I was asking how many seats the GOP would lose in the House and Senate in those elections and if it would be worse than Bush and Obama.

For comparison:

Bush peaked at 232 House members and 55 senators.  When he left office the GOP had 178 House member and 40 Senators.  

Obama peaked at 257 House members and 60 senators  When he left office Democrats had 48 senators and 194 House members.

 

 

 

At this point he’s making as much sense as Shooter

 


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Posted : 07/23/2026 5:42 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @snarlcakes

A crushing loss. Like Bush did?  Or like Obama did? Or worse? 

What? Your questions make no sense. Bush and Obama DID crushing losses? 

You claimed MAGA is going to get crushed in the 26 and 28 elections. I was asking how many seats the GOP would lose in the House and Senate in those elections and if it would be worse than Bush and Obama.

For comparison:

Bush peaked at 232 House members and 55 senators.  When he left office the GOP had 178 House member and 40 Senators.  

Obama peaked at 257 House members and 60 senators  When he left office Democrats had 48 senators and 194 House members.

 

 

 

At this point he’s making as much sense as Shooter

 

You don’t agree with me but my position is crystal clear. As with my reasons I consider the President unfit for his office, I don’t care at all if you disagree with my reasons for no longer voting for election denying MAGAs.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/23/2026 6:05 pm
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@spartans9312 remarkably brave tho


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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @snarlcakes

A crushing loss. Like Bush did?  Or like Obama did? Or worse? 

What? Your questions make no sense. Bush and Obama DID crushing losses? 

You claimed MAGA is going to get crushed in the 26 and 28 elections. I was asking how many seats the GOP would lose in the House and Senate in those elections and if it would be worse than Bush and Obama.

For comparison:

Bush peaked at 232 House members and 55 senators.  When he left office the GOP had 178 House member and 40 Senators.  

Obama peaked at 257 House members and 60 senators  When he left office Democrats had 48 senators and 194 House members.

 

 

I didn’t make that claim. You were arguing with someone else about that. Butch maybe? I’ve merely said I would like to see election denying MAGAs crushed. I’d be OK with every one of those candidates losing. They won’t all lose, of course. 

 

No, it was you.  I was responding to this sentence in a previous post where you said, "I want to 86 the MAGA election denial stupidity and I think it's going to take a crushing loss in 2026 and 2028."

 


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Posted : 07/23/2026 9:47 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

No, it was you.  I was responding to this sentence in a previous post where you said, "I want to 86 the MAGA election denial stupidity and I think it's going to take a crushing loss in 2026 and 2028."

Note the highlighted words, what I meant was clear and obvious. Don't be stupid. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/23/2026 9:50 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @snarlcakes

No, it was you.  I was responding to this sentence in a previous post where you said, "I want to 86 the MAGA election denial stupidity and I think it's going to take a crushing loss in 2026 and 2028."

Note the highlighted words, what I meant was clear and obvious. Don't be stupid. 

 

So MAGA isn't going to take a crushing loss.  Only MAGA election denial stupidity.  Clear as mud now. 

 

 


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Posted : 07/23/2026 10:35 pm
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Biggs voting record should be very palatable to anyone that classifies himself as a conservative. Hobbs not so much. Maybe you’re confused as to what you are. It’s fine. 

Not at all confused - he's running for Governor, by the way.

 

Why did he boatrace your candidate? I thought it would have been pretty close given this thread? I know nothing about either candidate other than what you posted. I don't view Arizona as that far right.

 


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Posted : 07/23/2026 10:52 pm
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Biggs voting record should be very palatable to anyone that classifies himself as a conservative. Hobbs not so much. Maybe you’re confused as to what you are. It’s fine. 

Not at all confused - he's running for Governor, by the way.

 

Why did he boatrace your candidate? I thought it would have been pretty close given this thread? I know nothing about either candidate other than what you posted. I don't view Arizona as that far right.

 

MAGAs turn out for primaries and they chose the Republican less likely to win the General. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/23/2026 11:34 pm
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Biggs voting record should be very palatable to anyone that classifies himself as a conservative. Hobbs not so much. Maybe you’re confused as to what you are. It’s fine. 

Not at all confused - he's running for Governor, by the way.

 

Why did he boatrace your candidate? I thought it would have been pretty close given this thread? I know nothing about either candidate other than what you posted. I don't view Arizona as that far right.

 

MAGAs turn out for primaries and they chose the Republican less likely to win the General. 

 

It will be interesting to see if the left does the same with the growth in the far-left, which has gained momentum during primaries and beyond.

 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 12:02 am
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@aloha-hoosier I wouldn't really call Andy Biggs MAGA... He's pretty far right, probably closer to Thomas Massie and Chip Roy. He opposed all COVID spending when Trump was in office, for example. He opposes basically every spending bill. He's not really a Trump lap dog, and has been quite a pain in the ass for House Republican leadership. I believe he was in the small gang that took McCarthy down. 

 

I don't think he'll perform too well in a statewide election in a purple state in a difficult cycle for Republicans. He's also kind of a boring, cold fish, and I kind of doubt Trump will lend too much help. Arizona is a state full of people from somewhere else (like you) for the most part, so kind of difficult to predict general elections. But the right wing politics in Arizona can be pretty loony tunes when it comes to primaries. 

He’s a 2020 election denier. That means he’s a moron or thinks Republicans are morons. Either is disqualifying. He will not be getting my vote. Very likely I’ll be voting for a Democrat for Governor for the first time in my life. 

 

 

At least we can dispense with the “principled Republican” line you so often use. 

 

Oh, RINOS like Gilligan have principles...

If you don't like them, they have other principles...

 


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Posted : 07/24/2026 10:51 am
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@aloha-hoosier I wouldn't really call Andy Biggs MAGA... He's pretty far right, probably closer to Thomas Massie and Chip Roy. He opposed all COVID spending when Trump was in office, for example. He opposes basically every spending bill. He's not really a Trump lap dog, and has been quite a pain in the ass for House Republican leadership. I believe he was in the small gang that took McCarthy down. 

 

I don't think he'll perform too well in a statewide election in a purple state in a difficult cycle for Republicans. He's also kind of a boring, cold fish, and I kind of doubt Trump will lend too much help. Arizona is a state full of people from somewhere else (like you) for the most part, so kind of difficult to predict general elections. But the right wing politics in Arizona can be pretty loony tunes when it comes to primaries. 

He’s a 2020 election denier. That means he’s a moron or thinks Republicans are morons. Either is disqualifying. He will not be getting my vote. Very likely I’ll be voting for a Democrat for Governor for the first time in my life. 

 

 

At least we can dispense with the “principled Republican” line you so often use. 

 

Oh, RINOS like Gilligan have principles...

If you don't like them, they have other principles...

 

It’s been clear for years you have no true admirable principles. I don’t know if you ever had any. You aren’t patriotic, don’t like Jews and love Russia. I guess that’s something. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/24/2026 11:52 am
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This board has lost its mind.  We'd be much better off if we all voted like Aloha for a few election cycles.  Stop the madness.  They'll keep feeding us shit until we stop accepting shit.  


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Posted : 07/24/2026 1:04 pm
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@fredom do that and we'll have socialists running the country


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