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BradStevens
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Posted by: @big-ryan

Good chance Pulte's new Trump-directed DNI mission will be to find or concoct an instance or instances of foreign interference as a pretext for declaring a national emergency and taking control in key election districts this Fall.  


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Posted : 06/03/2026 10:55 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @big-ryan

Good chance Pulte's new Trump-directed DNI mission will be to find or concoct an instance or instances of foreign interference as a pretext for declaring a national emergency and taking control in key election districts this Fall.  


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Sure, Trump would never direct something like that.  LMAO. 

You didn't read, or you're ignoring, my link about the draft executive order. 

Go back to your riveting "Parenting in the Netherlands" thread.  That's more your speed. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 06/03/2026 11:22 pm
BradStevens
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A list of some other whoppers predicted by the tin-foil hat crowd:


First Term (2017–2021)

Muslim Ban → permanent religious apartheid state.

Helsinki summit → imminent exposure as Russian asset. Mueller report → end of presidency. Predicted by many prominent voices to be a fatal blow. It wasn't. No charges, no removal.

COVID response → authoritarian consolidation. The pandemic was predicted by several commentators to be the vehicle by which Trump would seize emergency powers, cancel elections, or impose martial law. None of that happened. The 2020 election proceeded on schedule.

2020 election cancellation. Widely predicted that Trump would attempt to postpone or cancel the election using COVID as a pretext. The election occurred on its normal date.

Martial law post-election. After November 2020, a number of commentators predicted Trump would declare martial law to stay in power. 

January 6th as successful coup. The actual events were a mob action that was contained within hours. Congress certified the results that same night. Trump left office on January 20th.

The military would refuse to transfer power. Significant commentary predicted the Joint Chiefs would be the decisive variable. Chairman Milley made clear the military would not intervene, but the handoff happened normally.


Second Term (2025–present)

DOGE → complete elimination of federal government. Musk's operation caused real disruption and cuts, but the federal government continues to function. Musk himself departed his government role.

Tariffs → immediate Great Depression. Catastrophic economic collapse was predicted with regularity. The economy has experienced turbulence, inflation pressure, and the Supreme Court struck down IEEPA tariffs, but no depression materialized.

Schedule F → instant totalitarian civil service purge. Predicted to hollow out the entire professional civil service overnight. Implementation has been contested in courts and partial.

Press freedom elimination. Predictions that Trump would shut down or criminally prosecute news organizations. The press remains adversarial and operational. The CBS/60 Minutes controversy involved editorial pressure, not government prosecution.

Social media shutdown. Predictions that dissent on social media would be suppressed by government action. Has not happened at scale.

NATO dissolution. Predicted repeatedly that Trump would withdraw from or effectively destroy NATO. NATO continues to exist with increased European defense spending.

Supreme Court packing or defiance. Predictions that Trump would defy Supreme Court rulings or pack the Court. The administration has pushed boundaries and been defiant on some margins, but has not openly defied a direct Supreme Court order.

Mass roundups of political opponents. Prosecutions of specific political enemies have occurred (weaponized DOJ is real), but the predicted mass detention of opposition figures has not materialized.


(Don't forget "the end of democracy" prediction if Trump were reelected)

 

So we have a pretty consistent arc:  Trump does something concerning or objectionable (appointing a loyalist, issuing an executive order, firing an official) and the Dems/progressives extrapolate everything through a worst-case inference chain into an unprecedented authoritarian outcome.

And then when that outcome never materializes, they--like you--never admit they were wrong. They just move along to the next one. Meanwhile, the dopes unthinkingly eat it up, feuling the rage you've become so addicted to.

 


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Posted : 06/04/2026 12:18 am
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Posted by: @bradstevens

A list of some other whoppers predicted by the tin-foil hat crowd:


First Term (2017–2021)

Muslim Ban → permanent religious apartheid state.

Helsinki summit → imminent exposure as Russian asset. Mueller report → end of presidency. Predicted by many prominent voices to be a fatal blow. It wasn't. No charges, no removal.

COVID response → authoritarian consolidation. The pandemic was predicted by several commentators to be the vehicle by which Trump would seize emergency powers, cancel elections, or impose martial law. None of that happened. The 2020 election proceeded on schedule.

2020 election cancellation. Widely predicted that Trump would attempt to postpone or cancel the election using COVID as a pretext. The election occurred on its normal date.

Martial law post-election. After November 2020, a number of commentators predicted Trump would declare martial law to stay in power. 

January 6th as successful coup. The actual events were a mob action that was contained within hours. Congress certified the results that same night. Trump left office on January 20th.

The military would refuse to transfer power. Significant commentary predicted the Joint Chiefs would be the decisive variable. Chairman Milley made clear the military would not intervene, but the handoff happened normally.


Second Term (2025–present)

DOGE → complete elimination of federal government. Musk's operation caused real disruption and cuts, but the federal government continues to function. Musk himself departed his government role.

Tariffs → immediate Great Depression. Catastrophic economic collapse was predicted with regularity. The economy has experienced turbulence, inflation pressure, and the Supreme Court struck down IEEPA tariffs, but no depression materialized.

Schedule F → instant totalitarian civil service purge. Predicted to hollow out the entire professional civil service overnight. Implementation has been contested in courts and partial.

Press freedom elimination. Predictions that Trump would shut down or criminally prosecute news organizations. The press remains adversarial and operational. The CBS/60 Minutes controversy involved editorial pressure, not government prosecution.

Social media shutdown. Predictions that dissent on social media would be suppressed by government action. Has not happened at scale.

NATO dissolution. Predicted repeatedly that Trump would withdraw from or effectively destroy NATO. NATO continues to exist with increased European defense spending.

Supreme Court packing or defiance. Predictions that Trump would defy Supreme Court rulings or pack the Court. The administration has pushed boundaries and been defiant on some margins, but has not openly defied a direct Supreme Court order.

Mass roundups of political opponents. Prosecutions of specific political enemies have occurred (weaponized DOJ is real), but the predicted mass detention of opposition figures has not materialized.


(Don't forget "the end of democracy" prediction if Trump were reelected)

 

So we have a pretty consistent arc:  Trump does something concerning or objectionable (appointing a loyalist, issuing an executive order, firing an official) and the Dems/progressives extrapolate everything through a worst-case inference chain into an unprecedented authoritarian outcome.

And then when that outcome never materializes, they--like you--never admit they were wrong. They just move along to the next one. Meanwhile, the dopes unthinkingly eat it up, feuling the rage you've become so addicted to.

 

I assume this is supposed to be responsive to my post but you’re being a bit timid. 

Your post is a lame straw man. 

Now, back to my argument. Why is it far-fetched? What do you think about Pulte? Why did Trump appoint him as the country’s top spy when he has no military or intelligence experience?

 


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Topic starter Posted : 06/04/2026 9:08 am
UncleMark
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Posted by: @big-ryan

Now, back to my argument. Why is it far-fetched? What do you think about Pulte? Why did Trump appoint him as the country’s top spy when he has no military or intelligence experience?

Tulsi wouldn't/couldn't deliver the goods. Pulte has shown he has no compunction about going after Trump's foes, no matter how flimsy or false the charges might be. While he may end up finding some sliver of a thread that could possibly point to foreign election interference if looked at through a narrow lens, there won't be anything that would allow Trump to suspend or cancel or overturn the election; it will provide them with yet another tranche of talking points that we will be subjected to for years to come.


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Posted : 06/04/2026 9:20 am
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@big-ryan it’s you in general bowl. Dates way back to the prior board with your endless this will be the end of democracy rants - while Biden was concealed and voters were disenfranchised and we got stuck with Harris which was totally lost on you.  It was Trump that was the danger….  As JDB wrote in the other thread it’s just very hard for normal people to think like you.  You’re in that group that has been all consumed with Trump and lost the ability to see the forest for the trees so every bad act becomes this hyperbolic end of times event for you that as Brad noted rarely comes to fruition.  You are one of these people who desperately needs a break from politics.   

yes trump is terrible.  A terrible president.  But he’s nothing more than that.  And he’s still better than the alternative who support bailing out thugs sitting home playing video games eating rap snacks heading out to murder freshly minted Kelley grads.  

in a word. You have no perspective.  

carry on I guess. But you shouldn’t.  You’re not dumb like @hurryinghoosiers. You’ve let yourself get ate up a bit. It happens 🙌. The World Cup is coming. Good studf


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Posted : 06/04/2026 10:32 am
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Posted by: @bar-down

@big-ryan it’s you in general bowl. Dates way back to the prior board with your endless this will be the end of democracy rants - while Biden was concealed and voters were disenfranchised and we got stuck with Harris which was totally lost on you.  It was Trump that was the danger….  As JDB wrote in the other thread it’s just very hard for normal people to think like you.  You’re in that group that has been all consumed with Trump and lost the ability to see the forest for the trees so every bad act becomes this hyperbolic end of times event for you that as Brad noted rarely comes to fruition.  You are one of these people who desperately needs a break from politics.   

yes trump is terrible.  A terrible president.  But he’s nothing more than that.  And he’s still better than the alternative who support bailing out thugs sitting home playing video games eating rap snacks heading out to murder freshly minted Kelley grads.  

in a word. You have no perspective.  

carry on I guess. But you shouldn’t.  You’re not dumb like @hurryinghoosiers. You’ve let yourself get ate up a bit. It happens 🙌. The World Cup is coming. Good studf

only brain-dead morons like you think the alternative is worse than trump.

by the way moron, it's spelled "stuff"  are 5 letter words too difficult for you?

 


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Posted : 06/04/2026 10:51 am
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@hurryinghoosiers nothing is worse than open borders blm bail projects defund.  The rest is all money. But if a gov promotes messaging that threatens public safety it’s failing at the very most basic level. Dems are simply unelectable at this time


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Posted : 06/04/2026 10:58 am
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Bessent wanted to fight him 😂 

Bessent is the only actual badass in the group.  No chest thumping, no rooster strutting, just an ass beating behind the scenes.

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LOL

https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/2062178529907757102

 

 

Bessent just asked one of these clowns, something Chu, who the President was during WW1. She did not know of course. 

 

We're not sending our best. 

 


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Posted : 06/04/2026 11:57 am
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Posted by: @bar-down

@big-ryan it’s you in general bowl. Dates way back to the prior board with your endless this will be the end of democracy rants - while Biden was concealed and voters were disenfranchised and we got stuck with Harris which was totally lost on you.  It was Trump that was the danger….  As JDB wrote in the other thread it’s just very hard for normal people to think like you.  You’re in that group that has been all consumed with Trump and lost the ability to see the forest for the trees so every bad act becomes this hyperbolic end of times event for you that as Brad noted rarely comes to fruition.  You are one of these people who desperately needs a break from politics.   

yes trump is terrible.  A terrible president.  But he’s nothing more than that.  And he’s still better than the alternative who support bailing out thugs sitting home playing video games eating rap snacks heading out to murder freshly minted Kelley grads.  

in a word. You have no perspective.  

carry on I guess. But you shouldn’t.  You’re not dumb like @hurryinghoosiers. You’ve let yourself get ate up a bit. It happens 🙌. The World Cup is coming. Good studf

I don't know what "general bowl" means, and I wasn't involved in "the prior board," whatever that refers to. 

I despise Biden and have repeatedly made my opinion on that very clear.  His decision to run for reelection was selfish, damaging and unforgiveable. 

Trump is much more than a "terrible president." See the factual summary below, which would be twice as long if it included events of the last six months.  You won't read it, but maybe someone else will. 

Finally, my exchange was with Brad Stephens.  Your jumping in (with insults) reinforces a conclusion that he's unable to defend himself. 

A second bill of particulars: Donald Trump and the assault on American democracy - Bench & Bar of Minnesota

 


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Topic starter Posted : 06/04/2026 12:39 pm
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Posted by: @bar-down

@hurryinghoosiers nothing is worse than open borders blm bail projects defund.  The rest is all money. But if a gov promotes messaging that threatens public safety it’s failing at the very most basic level. Dems are simply unelectable at this time

separating families, especially after a judge ordered them not to be separated and that they were here legally, is FAR FAR FAR FAR worse.  redrawing lines to cheat the election is FAR FAR FAR FAR worse.  Calling up state officials to try to change voting results is FAR FAR FAR FAR worse.  Instigating an attack on the Capitol and then trying to reimburse the felons is FAR FAR FAR FAR worse.  Trying to take away healthcare without a viable replacement is FAR FAR FAR FAR worse.  Using the DOJ as his personal attack dogs to exact revenge on his personal enemies is FAR FAR FAR FAR worse.  All of that is much worse than anything the dems have done by a big margin and worse than any dem policy you are afraid of.

The only person that should have been considered un-electable is the orange clown residing in the white house.

 


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Posted : 06/04/2026 12:55 pm
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@big-ryan I’m a super hero. The odds of two personalities being that closely aligned is zero


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Posted : 06/04/2026 12:59 pm
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Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @bar-down

@big-ryan it’s you in general bowl. Dates way back to the prior board with your endless this will be the end of democracy rants - while Biden was concealed and voters were disenfranchised and we got stuck with Harris which was totally lost on you.  It was Trump that was the danger….  As JDB wrote in the other thread it’s just very hard for normal people to think like you.  You’re in that group that has been all consumed with Trump and lost the ability to see the forest for the trees so every bad act becomes this hyperbolic end of times event for you that as Brad noted rarely comes to fruition.  You are one of these people who desperately needs a break from politics.   

yes trump is terrible.  A terrible president.  But he’s nothing more than that.  And he’s still better than the alternative who support bailing out thugs sitting home playing video games eating rap snacks heading out to murder freshly minted Kelley grads.  

in a word. You have no perspective.  

carry on I guess. But you shouldn’t.  You’re not dumb like @hurryinghoosiers. You’ve let yourself get ate up a bit. It happens 🙌. The World Cup is coming. Good studf

I don't know what "general bowl" means, and I wasn't involved in "the prior board," whatever that refers to. 

 

 

Dead giveaway someone was a previous poster. Pretending not to understand something even though the context is so clear a five year old could understand what Murt was talking about without any prior knowledge. 

 

Your debate with Brad, so much as it is, is about the likelihood of your hypothetical that Trump will declare a national emergency and takeover elections districts. Debating the likelihood of hypotheticals seems like massive waste of time. How do you "win" such an argument?

 

If you're so convicted, you should bet brad $10K that Trump will have the federal government take control of election districts this fall. I'll take your bet if Brad wont. 

 


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Posted : 06/04/2026 12:59 pm
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@hurryinghoosiers no. Safety in your home. In your community is the most fundamental.  Dems even erode that.  The very most basic thing we require Dems can’t do.  Somalia climate inflation gas etc all sucks but whatever compared to public safety.  Dems have simply become unelectable.  This isn’t opinion. It’s fact


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Posted : 06/04/2026 1:01 pm
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@hurryinghoosiers no. Safety in your home. In your community is the most fundamental.  Dems even erode that.  The very most basic thing we require Dems can’t do.  Somalia climate inflation gas etc all sucks but whatever compared to public safety.  Dems have simply become unelectable.  This isn’t opinion. It’s fact

you need to look up the definitions for opinion and fact.

Your post is nothing but your opinion no matter how much you want to believe it is more than that.

 


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