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BradStevens
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Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @twenty

There are just a lot of people that like hearing their political beliefs confirmed in better prose than they are able to compose themselves.

That's a great observation.  That's why many are constantly in social media scroll mode and quickly repost favored content that they could never cogently articulate.  

 

I was going to say that.

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That sounds like the reason so many here give for why they liked the Rockfish guy.  

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:08 pm
Ohio Guy
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Compare Dem run counties to Republican run counties with the same demographics.  Do you get the same or better crime numbers?  I don't know.  

 

I don't know the answer to that either. My guess is that the crime numbers would be similar county to county.

Major cities are a category all their own. 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:09 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @bar-down

@ohio-guy no you're wrong again.  only dems have been in charge for the last 75 years.  one county over is maga republicans and you do not have these same problems. in fact that's where the growth is - away from the progressive dems to the maga county.  why?  schools.  safety.  not insane progressives that let criminals out

Compare Dem run counties to Republican run counties with the same demographics.  Do you get the same or better crime numbers?  I don't know.  

 

Specifically what demographics?

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:12 pm
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@ohio-guy I've been to Chillicothe.. pretty depressing area. That whole stretch along the Ohio River through southern Ohio ranks up there with some of the most depressing places I've seen anywhere (outside of eastern Kentucky). Beautiful country but it's like time stopped in most of that area. 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:12 pm
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@ohio-guy the top 25 most dangerous cities with the shittiest schools will be run by progressives and have a large black population. That’s not opinion. That’s fact. And that’s not a state issue. That’s local control.   And progressives count on that black vote so it will never change.  I’m out of Stl all the time.  I’ve been to more more county courthouses than you can count and all I need to do is see if it is a blue or red co and I can tell you exactly what the docket will look like and how dispositions will be handled.


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:14 pm
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Overall crime rate is higher in urban environments, for sure, but a per capita focus reduces the disparity.  Focusing on firearm deaths shifts the balance to more rural counties.

In all county types and both decades of the study, per capita, the most rural counties had higher rates of firearm deaths compared with the most urban counties.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10134042/

 

The situation for the butthole of middle America, St. Louis, may not reflect the USA at large.


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"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:15 pm
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Posted by: @bar-down

@big-ryan you must be the most miserable human on earth. Your obsession doesn’t relate to others. The questions you posit are actually relevant to sane people.  What is the alternative.  Open borders?  3 million a year flooding in unvetted we can’t afford?  Murders in front of our local deli?  Yes.  That is the alternative. To exclude that analysis is the math of a fool or a person obsessed.  You have clearly demonstrated yourself to be both. 

Seriously you desperately need help. This isn’t healthy. Touch grass is real. Go to the gym. Run with your kids. Get off here and the tv. Good grief. You have the obsession of my five year old wanting a new toy and not being able to see anything else.  

trump sucks ass.  We know. So what. Who is the alternative.  THAT IS ALWAYS THE ONLY GERMANE QUESTION 

Wow.  There you go again with an unprovoked, personal attack.  This is a habit of yours. You frequently rage against posters who have a different perspective. The exchanges usually end up in the shitter, with you leading the way.  I have no interest in that and, accordingly, no interest in communicating with you.  Please don’t reply to my posts.

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:16 pm
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@twenty yes.  And Athens the city is an oasis.  Great college town and one of the most beautiful campuses in the country.


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:17 pm
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@big-ryan lmao hypocrite. Your passive aggressive attacks to Brad. You go personal with coh every time he posts.  He literally called you out in this very thread.  

you don’t want me to reply because you want to bleat without someone taking your argument and running it threw a shredder bowl. As always….  


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:19 pm
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BradStevens
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @bar-down

@ohio-guy no you're wrong again.  only dems have been in charge for the last 75 years.  one county over is maga republicans and you do not have these same problems. in fact that's where the growth is - away from the progressive dems to the maga county.  why?  schools.  safety.  not insane progressives that let criminals out

Compare Dem run counties to Republican run counties with the same demographics.  Do you get the same or better crime numbers?  I don't know.  

 

Specifically what demographics?

 

both ethnic and socioeconomic 

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:20 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @big-ryan

The fund will be controlled by a secret commission Trump appoints and removes at will.  There will be no way for any independent third party to trace disbursements and/or kickbacks to Trump.  

Two factual issues worth flagging here.

On the commission: every news outlet that has covered this — CNN, ABC, the DOJ's own press release — describes the members as "not yet announced," which is a timing issue, not a secrecy feature. More tellingly, the DOJ's own establishing document describes a removal and replacement mechanism that would be operationally meaningless if the members were secret. "Secret" isn't supported by anything in the reporting.

On traceability: the fund is required by its own terms to submit quarterly reports to the Attorney General itemizing who received relief and in what amounts. Those are federal agency records. They're subject to FOIA, congressional subpoena, and the full oversight authority of any future administration. CREW and similar watchdog organizations will be filing FOIA requests the moment disbursements begin. A future AG in 2029 will have direct access to every transaction record and zero institutional interest in protecting them.

You may have legitimate concerns about the fund — reasonable people do — but "no way for any independent third party to trace disbursements" overstates what the structure actually allows. Confidential at the moment of payment is not the same as permanently untraceable. Federal money doesn't work that way.

 

The proposed $1.8 billion ($1.776 billion) "Anti-Weaponization Fund" established by the DOJ to compensate allies of President Trump is structured in a way that creates significant obstacles to transparency and Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests.
  • Non-Public Reporting: The settlement agreement states that Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche will receive the names of the recipients in a "confidential written report".
  • Lack of Public Disclosure: The terms of the settlement do not require public notice about who is being compensated or for how much.
  • FOIA Challenges: Legal analysts have described this fund as a "slush fund" and a "corrupt" and "opaque" arrangement, signaling it is designed to operate without standard public oversight.
  • Unprecedented Structure: Unlike standard government compensation funds (such as the Sept. 11th Victim Compensation Fund) which are established with congressional approval and oversight, this fund is operated by a commission appointed by the Acting Attorney General, whose members can be removed by the president at any time.
While the payments are intended to come from the federal Judgment Fund—which is generally subject to FOIA for auditing purposes—this specialized fund's internal rules aim to keep recipient identities confidential.
 
FOIA lawsuits and congressional oversight efforts are expected to challenge this lack of transparency, similar to existing lawsuits against the DOJ regarding the administration's financial payouts.

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:26 pm
Ohio Guy
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Posted by: @twenty

@ohio-guy I've been to Chillicothe.. pretty depressing area. That whole stretch along the Ohio River through southern Ohio ranks up there with some of the most depressing places I've seen anywhere (outside of eastern Kentucky). Beautiful country but it's like time stopped in most of that area. 

I agree with that. Outside of my daughter's high school soccer games, I haven't actually spent some time in Chillicothe in ages, but they just closed a paper mill there which will make it an even more depressed area. The geography of Ohio is weird in that they often say the three Cs (Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati) get most of the attention, which is largely true. Those cities more or less make a diagonal line from northeast to the southwest part of the state and anything east of that line seems to get the short end of the stick. Most of that Ohio River stretch is in that part of the state. Without looking it up, something like 22 of the poorest counties are in that area as well. It's all a part of the rural Appalachian region that includes parts of Kentucky, West Virginia  and a bit of Pennsylvania that is often left behind federally. I think the last federal politician that actually wanted to do something for that neck of the woods en masse might've been RFK Sr. 

 

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:26 pm
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@bradstevens @ohio-guy 

top ten most dangerous cities accdg to the fbi and party affiliation

memphis dem

oakland dem

detroit non partisan prior long term dem

stl dem

little rock dem

baltimore dem

Albuquerque dem

milwaukee dem

kansas city dem

cleveland dem

not one republican 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:27 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @bar-down

@ohio-guy no you're wrong again.  only dems have been in charge for the last 75 years.  one county over is maga republicans and you do not have these same problems. in fact that's where the growth is - away from the progressive dems to the maga county.  why?  schools.  safety.  not insane progressives that let criminals out

Compare Dem run counties to Republican run counties with the same demographics.  Do you get the same or better crime numbers?  I don't know.  

 

Specifically what demographics?

 

both ethnic and socioeconomic 

 

I saw some data that showed ethnicity plays a much larger role than socioeconomic.  I was a surprised.  The top 1-2% of black income earners committed the same amount of crimes as a white person making around 30k.  I'll post the chart if see it again.  I ran it through Grok and it said it was legit.  

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:30 pm
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@snarlcakes that woudl shock me.  my community and where my daughter goes to school are pretty diverse with money and we have no problems.


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:32 pm
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