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@snarlcakes oh yeah don't get me wrong. they look like advanced tech hell but they are insanely advanced.  immaculate too.  there's some fascinating videos on youtube typically with some title around "salary man."  it's kind of a day in the life existence of a working average corp joe.  really interesting.  the one guy who does it is actually super clever too.  adds a real sense of dry humor that's great


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Posted : 05/14/2026 6:43 pm
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@oneeyedundertaker smell like weed real bad still?

Not as bad as last time, but I’ve smelled it a few times…

 


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Posted : 05/14/2026 7:58 pm
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@oneeyedundertaker haven’t been in a while. In the mood to go


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Posted : 05/14/2026 8:02 pm
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Xi to Trump: Don't overstep your bounds with respect to Taiwan. 

Pretty blunt warning. 

Taiwan becomes key leverage in Donald Trump-Xi Jinping talks

I wonder if the commies agreed to stop supplying Iran with weapons. 

 

 


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Posted : 05/14/2026 9:10 pm
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Posted by: @goat

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@goat 

Please reassure me you’re not naively oblivious of China’s recent Big Brother pervasion of Every. Single. Chinese. Citizen’s. Life. 

They need our tech like this planet needs nuclear annihilation.

 

China is perpetually 6-8 months behind us on AI development. They lack the production capability to close that gap. They desperately want access to the chips we currently monopolize. Even if we only let them import chips that are one or two generations behind what's being produced now, that is a massive upgrade for them.

I said nothing to indicate any sort of denial of the autocratic police state that is China. On the contrary, I specifically made reference to it, along with, correctly, Trump's lack of concern over it. Please don't accuse me of being naive because you have problems with reading comprehension. 

 

I merely asked for your reassurance. Evidently you took that to be a full-on attack and you’re putting that on my reading comprehension? (chuckle)

You wrote:

1. Deals on technological integration, especially on microchips. (Edit: sounds like this one is already underway.)

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integration - the process of bringing separate, distinct parts together to form a single, unified, and functional whole. Depending on the context, it typically refers to blending different systems, combining information, or bringing diverse groups of people into a single society.

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China has inserted sophisticated tracking technology into every cell phone Chinese citizens possess, as one example of what they are doing with technology. 

The last thing the US wants is any sort of “technological integration” with China. 

 


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Posted : 05/14/2026 9:30 pm
Goat
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Posted by: @hhlurker

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @hhlurker

@goat 

Please reassure me you’re not naively oblivious of China’s recent Big Brother pervasion of Every. Single. Chinese. Citizen’s. Life. 

They need our tech like this planet needs nuclear annihilation.

 

China is perpetually 6-8 months behind us on AI development. They lack the production capability to close that gap. They desperately want access to the chips we currently monopolize. Even if we only let them import chips that are one or two generations behind what's being produced now, that is a massive upgrade for them.

I said nothing to indicate any sort of denial of the autocratic police state that is China. On the contrary, I specifically made reference to it, along with, correctly, Trump's lack of concern over it. Please don't accuse me of being naive because you have problems with reading comprehension. 

 

I merely asked for your reassurance. Evidently you took that to be a full-on attack and you’re putting that on my reading comprehension? (chuckle)

You wrote:

1. Deals on technological integration, especially on microchips. (Edit: sounds like this one is already underway.)

————

integration - the process of bringing separate, distinct parts together to form a single, unified, and functional whole. Depending on the context, it typically refers to blending different systems, combining information, or bringing diverse groups of people into a single society.

————

China has inserted sophisticated tracking technology into every cell phone Chinese citizens possess, as one example of what they are doing with technology. 

The last thing the US wants is any sort of “technological integration” with China. 

 

Nothing you said, quoted, or highlighted there would justify implying that I was "naively oblivious" to Chinese autocratic tendencies. So kindly fuck off.

 


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Posted : 05/14/2026 9:49 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @hhlurker

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @hhlurker

@goat 

Please reassure me you’re not naively oblivious of China’s recent Big Brother pervasion of Every. Single. Chinese. Citizen’s. Life. 

They need our tech like this planet needs nuclear annihilation.

 

China is perpetually 6-8 months behind us on AI development. They lack the production capability to close that gap. They desperately want access to the chips we currently monopolize. Even if we only let them import chips that are one or two generations behind what's being produced now, that is a massive upgrade for them.

I said nothing to indicate any sort of denial of the autocratic police state that is China. On the contrary, I specifically made reference to it, along with, correctly, Trump's lack of concern over it. Please don't accuse me of being naive because you have problems with reading comprehension. 

 

I merely asked for your reassurance. Evidently you took that to be a full-on attack and you’re putting that on my reading comprehension? (chuckle)

You wrote:

1. Deals on technological integration, especially on microchips. (Edit: sounds like this one is already underway.)

————

integration - the process of bringing separate, distinct parts together to form a single, unified, and functional whole. Depending on the context, it typically refers to blending different systems, combining information, or bringing diverse groups of people into a single society.

————

China has inserted sophisticated tracking technology into every cell phone Chinese citizens possess, as one example of what they are doing with technology. 

The last thing the US wants is any sort of “technological integration” with China. 

 

Nothing you said, quoted, or highlighted there would justify implying that I was "naively oblivious" to Chinese autocratic tendencies. So kindly fuck off.

 

You know, when you put the word "kindly" there, it's not so bad.  

 


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Posted : 05/14/2026 9:53 pm
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Nvidia is never going to sell the Chinese newest generation chips. Not under any president Democrat or Republican.

 

I actually don’t see much utility in Juang being there, other than to cement that fact in person.

 

@goat is wrong that our AI advantage stems simply from the scale and complexity of chip production as well. We have better models, full stop. As well as the chip supply chain to back it. 


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Topic starter Posted : 05/14/2026 9:57 pm
Goat
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Posted by: @carramrod

Nvidia is never going to sell the Chinese newest generation chips. Not under any president Democrat or Republican.

 

I actually don’t see much utility in Juang being there, other than to cement that fact in person.

 

@goat is wrong that our AI advantage stems simply from the scale and complexity of chip production as well. We have better models, full stop. As well as the chip supply chain to back it. 

We do have better models. But that can be overcome in a matter of months. What can't be overcome is the lack of physical infrastructure to back it up.

 


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Posted : 05/14/2026 10:16 pm
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https://twitter.com/StateDept/status/2054887978284069213

Boom


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Posted : 05/14/2026 10:16 pm
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@goat 

Unlax maestro. Life is too precious to stress over pixels on the internet. My emphasis was on China and its insidious and surreptitious encroachment into the civilized world, not on triggering you, for which I apologize. Not my intention. I have a lot respect for you and your posts. 


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Posted : 05/14/2026 10:18 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @carramrod

Nvidia is never going to sell the Chinese newest generation chips. Not under any president Democrat or Republican.

 

I actually don’t see much utility in Juang being there, other than to cement that fact in person.

 

@goat is wrong that our AI advantage stems simply from the scale and complexity of chip production as well. We have better models, full stop. As well as the chip supply chain to back it. 

We do have better models. But that can be overcome in a matter of months. What can't be overcome is the lack of physical infrastructure to back it up.

 

 

The human capital it takes to build the best models in world. Pulling from every conceivable corner of the globe, is something they will never have. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 05/14/2026 10:23 pm
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Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @carramrod

Nvidia is never going to sell the Chinese newest generation chips. Not under any president Democrat or Republican.

 

I actually don’t see much utility in Juang being there, other than to cement that fact in person.

 

@goat is wrong that our AI advantage stems simply from the scale and complexity of chip production as well. We have better models, full stop. As well as the chip supply chain to back it. 

We do have better models. But that can be overcome in a matter of months. What can't be overcome is the lack of physical infrastructure to back it up.

 

 

The human capital it takes to build the best models in world. Pulling from every conceivable corner of the globe, is something they will never have. 

 

Nonsense. It only takes one Chinese Elon Musk who wasn’t born in the US. 

 


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Posted : 05/14/2026 10:26 pm
Goat
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Posted by: @hhlurker

@goat 

Unlax maestro. Life is too precious to stress over pixels on the internet. My emphasis was on China and its insidious and surreptitious encroachment into the civilized world, not on triggering you, for which I apologize. Not my intention. I have a lot respect for you and your posts. 

I wanted to respond with a #NoHardFeelings gif, but man, that Google search was disturbing, and now I need to go bathe.

 


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Posted : 05/14/2026 10:37 pm
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Posted by: @hhlurker

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @carramrod

Nvidia is never going to sell the Chinese newest generation chips. Not under any president Democrat or Republican.

 

I actually don’t see much utility in Juang being there, other than to cement that fact in person.

 

@goat is wrong that our AI advantage stems simply from the scale and complexity of chip production as well. We have better models, full stop. As well as the chip supply chain to back it. 

We do have better models. But that can be overcome in a matter of months. What can't be overcome is the lack of physical infrastructure to back it up.

 

 

The human capital it takes to build the best models in world. Pulling from every conceivable corner of the globe, is something they will never have. 

 

Nonsense. It only takes one Chinese Elon Musk who wasn’t born in the US. 

 

 

Nonsense. The CCP would have stifled Elon when he was building PayPal or Solar City. Much less Tesla. 

Taken control, overlooked innovation, stifled anything truly revolutionary and demoralized all the innovators and investors.

I’m not impressed that they can offer more prevalent retail robotics. Or faster public transport. Or cleaner streets. 

It’s not their innovation.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 05/14/2026 10:48 pm
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