What benefits are derived from having humans there that couldn’t or wouldn’t be derived from advanced robotics?
Technology in just about everything. All the challenges of getting humans there requires tech. At its heart it is a massive R&D project.
Unity. I saw conservatives and liberals jointly excited. I recall that from Apollo 11, seemingly everyone was proud of that one giant step. We have discussed here what can bring America back together. I suggest an American standing on the moon.
Interest in science. I may be alone but we have too many top minds going into business. I have seen the mathlete kids here go not into science but Kelley because that is the money. Maybe the wonder of space exploration will get some of those kids finding that a better career.
Humans can still do more. I have a physics prof gaming buddy mention this to me. Robots do some things great, but that unknown unknown is a huge problem for them. Mars Rover Opportunity died because it couldn't clear the dust from its solar panels. Guess what a human can easily do. And Mars dust is a known.
Counter: if we stop thinking of the Earth as a rock we happen to live on, as if we can just jump onto any other old planet and live the same way, and instead realized we are a life form that developed and evolved with the Earth and it's biosphere, that we are a part of it just like the trees and the wind and the rain, maybe we would be more mindful of Earth, not damage it so, and not need to go searching for another planet that we won't even be able to live on.
@bradstevens ask the dinosaurs, who I do not think caused their demise.
See, there you go: let's create unity, interest in science, and tech advancement by developing a shield/capability of protecting the Earth from asteroids and comets.
@bradstevens ask the dinosaurs, who I do not think caused their demise.
See, there you go: let's create unity, interest in science, and tech advancement by developing a shield/capability of protecting the Earth from asteroids and comets.
They're doing that already, it just hasn't caught the public imagination. Prolly take a real threat of a direct hit to make people wake up and pay attention.
Counter: if we stop thinking of the Earth as a rock we happen to live on, as if we can just jump onto any other old planet and live the same way, and instead realized we are a life form that developed and evolved with the Earth and it's biosphere, that we are a part of it just like the trees and the wind and the rain, maybe we would be more mindful of Earth, not damage it so, and not need to go searching for another planet that we won't even be able to live on.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan. POTFB
I've always pictured Brad as some sort of hippie professor.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan. POTFB
Aren’t asteroids and comets part of earth’s natural development? Take away asteroids and comets and maybe human life doesn’t exist.
We mold and control the biome, other creatures, etc. here. We try or would like to control Earth's non-biological functions for our benefit and betterment. I'm not saying we shouldn't.
What I'm saying is that our survival is tied to Earth more than most want to admit and our chances of surviving on another planet we didn't evolve to live on is vanishingly small. These ideas kill most science fiction and dreaming, I get it. Sometimes the truth sucks.
What benefits are derived from having humans there that couldn’t or wouldn’t be derived from advanced robotics?
Technology in just about everything. All the challenges of getting humans there requires tech. At its heart it is a massive R&D project.
Unity. I saw conservatives and liberals jointly excited. I recall that from Apollo 11, seemingly everyone was proud of that one giant step. We have discussed here what can bring America back together. I suggest an American standing on the moon.
Interest in science. I may be alone but we have too many top minds going into business. I have seen the mathlete kids here go not into science but Kelley because that is the money. Maybe the wonder of space exploration will get some of those kids finding that a better career.
Humans can still do more. I have a physics prof gaming buddy mention this to me. Robots do some things great, but that unknown unknown is a huge problem for them. Mars Rover Opportunity died because it couldn't clear the dust from its solar panels. Guess what a human can easily do. And Mars dust is a known.
Counter: if we stop thinking of the Earth as a rock we happen to live on, as if we can just jump onto any other old planet and live the same way, and instead realized we are a life form that developed and evolved with the Earth and it's biosphere, that we are a part of it just like the trees and the wind and the rain, maybe we would be more mindful of Earth, not damage it so, and not need to go searching for another planet that we won't even be able to live on.
Aren’t asteroids and comets part of earth’s natural development? Take away asteroids and comets and maybe human life doesn’t exist.
We mold and control the biome, other creatures, etc. here. We try or would like to control Earth's non-biological functions for our benefit and betterment. I'm not saying we shouldn't.
What I'm saying is that our survival is tied to Earth more than most want to admit and our chances of surviving on another planet we didn't evolve to live on is vanishingly small. These ideas kill most science fiction and dreaming, I get it. Sometimes the truth sucks.
What happened to Wells' Martians should be an object lesson.
What benefits are derived from having humans there that couldn’t or wouldn’t be derived from advanced robotics?
Technology in just about everything. All the challenges of getting humans there requires tech. At its heart it is a massive R&D project.
Unity. I saw conservatives and liberals jointly excited. I recall that from Apollo 11, seemingly everyone was proud of that one giant step. We have discussed here what can bring America back together. I suggest an American standing on the moon.
Interest in science. I may be alone but we have too many top minds going into business. I have seen the mathlete kids here go not into science but Kelley because that is the money. Maybe the wonder of space exploration will get some of those kids finding that a better career.
Humans can still do more. I have a physics prof gaming buddy mention this to me. Robots do some things great, but that unknown unknown is a huge problem for them. Mars Rover Opportunity died because it couldn't clear the dust from its solar panels. Guess what a human can easily do. And Mars dust is a known.
Counter: if we stop thinking of the Earth as a rock we happen to live on, as if we can just jump onto any other old planet and live the same way, and instead realized we are a life form that developed and evolved with the Earth and it's biosphere, that we are a part of it just like the trees and the wind and the rain, maybe we would be more mindful of Earth, not damage it so, and not need to go searching for another planet that we won't even be able to live on.
Now you are sounding like a Democrat..
I agree wholeheartedly that we should take better care of the earth because we will be living here for a long, long time.
However, if we haven't already killed ourselves when the sun explodes then we better hope we find a way to travel to another planet before that point in time arrives or that will be our extinction. At that point, nothing else matters except escaping the milky way
Of course, we will be long dead by then and IU football will have tons of championships by that point
