@arioznahoosier4554 Also related to why Beilein quit college coaching. He didn't like "one and done" players. No way he'd want to deal with this portal and NIL stuff every year.
No wonder they are good. The Blue Devils must have one of the smartest teams in collegiate basketball. I will bet the farm the average SAT score on the Duke roster is well, well below 1500. I wonder if I can find any takers?Years ago, Knight used to get pissed off with the Big 10 scheduling those late 9:00 pm games because his players were required to go to early morning classes the next day. A big time basketball player of the present time can get accepted into virtually any university with little problem. A rare occurrence if you can find a college athlete selecting a school because of academics.The $4 million to buy a basketball player for one year could sure help many needy students pay their tuition.Yeah, it is nuts in some ways. I understand it in the 'if you have it and that's what you want to spend it on...' view. Maybe they like hobnobbing with Cignetti or DeVries. But man, the numbers are so large, wouldn't you rather have your name associated with a new and improved academic or science projects, or even facilities for athletics sure, but just paying salaries is wild.
As much as I love sports yes at least I would want it on something significant that actually contributes to society like money for the library or science wing. Paying a guy a ton of money to dribble a basketball adds nothing to society it just maybe gets you access to the program and fulfills your own ego of possibly having a winning program.
We I had brought up why in the world is a 4 million dollar basketball player also getting free tuition especially given they probably do not even go to class. It did not go over very well but its clear the whole mission and point of college is now out the window its not at all about education with these guys it just paying them to dribble a bbal and maybe take an online test. But I highly doubt they ever see the inside of a classroom.
Those over the years that always said players needed to be paid I do not think ever thought it would be 4 million a year or even close to that. Some of these guys are going to make more than their coaches so I can see why guys like Jay Wright wanted out.
Basically looks like the players of today are simply contractual employees. (comments from a guy that likes sports)
Yeah I have always chuckled at Duke who can get any player they recruit into the school yet the acceptance rate is 4.7. Man all these top ten bbal players must score 1500 on their SAT's. LOL!
Duke University’s overall acceptance rate for the Class of 2030 (entering fall 2026) is 4.7%, a record low driven by over 61,000 applications.
A rare occurrence if you can find a college athlete selecting a school because of academics.The $4 million to buy a basketball player for one year could sure help many needy students pay their tuition.Yeah, it is nuts in some ways. I understand it in the 'if you have it and that's what you want to spend it on...' view. Maybe they like hobnobbing with Cignetti or DeVries. But man, the numbers are so large, wouldn't you rather have your name associated with a new and improved academic or science projects, or even facilities for athletics sure, but just paying salaries is wild.
As much as I love sports yes at least I would want it on something significant that actually contributes to society like money for the library or science wing. Paying a guy a ton of money to dribble a basketball adds nothing to society it just maybe gets you access to the program and fulfills your own ego of possibly having a winning program.
We I had brought up why in the world is a 4 million dollar basketball player also getting free tuition especially given they probably do not even go to class. It did not go over very well but its clear the whole mission and point of college is now out the window its not at all about education with these guys it just paying them to dribble a bbal and maybe take an online test. But I highly doubt they ever see the inside of a classroom.
Those over the years that always said players needed to be paid I do not think ever thought it would be 4 million a year or even close to that. Some of these guys are going to make more than their coaches so I can see why guys like Jay Wright wanted out.
IMO, it's far too easy to lump all players into this group, but you're really focused on players from the P4 in football and the P6 in basketball, but there are twice as many football players and probably 4x as many basketball players who are at small schools/mid-majors that aren't getting any NIL or very little and are choosing a school for a variety of reasons, including academic. Not to mention all of the volleyball, track, soccer, diamond sports athletes for these hundreds of schools who are still making choices using the same parameters they did pre-NIL.
@iureactionary Gotta hit on the assessments, and be able to close on the more proven elite guys they go after, for this approach to work... obviously. I worry about their evaluations if Burton was their primary target for one of their big money guard positions. A big money playmaker in the B10, at his size, that doesn't really defend, and isn't an overly willing passer... sketchy... depending on what Burton's bag is.
These numbers might not be right, but I'd rather they spent 9, even 10 million on Bidunga and Shelstead than 7-8 million on Burton and Sherrell. I'd have probably overspent, like Louisville did, on that duo. And then got to work on money balling the rest of the roster. Seems that's what they're trying to do with Burton and Sherrell though, so if they can land them... guys like Harris and Mustaf end up making a lot more sense. If not... I fear it's pretty easy to predict everyone's commentary on them come January when we're hovering around bubble status, and getting thumped by the Michigans and Illinois of the conference... and a big reason being how inconsistent our top guys are against good teams.
I agree you know what you're getting
we aren't in a position the gamble on moneyball players as our go to guys. To compliment our core , sure.
Some guy who had Mustaf locked to IU 3 days ago posted the same lock for Sherrell an hour ago. We’ll see…
Obviously would be massive
I bet if you did some research on Duke MBB players and their academics, you'd find they, overall, are probably higher performing than 90% of college basketball teams. Would they get into Duke without basketball? Most, probably not. But that can be said of damned near any program in the country, including a lot of Ivys.Years ago, Knight used to get pissed off with the Big 10 scheduling those late 9:00 pm games because his players were required to go to early morning classes the next day. A big time basketball player of the present time can get accepted into virtually any university with little problem. A rare occurrence if you can find a college athlete selecting a school because of academics.The $4 million to buy a basketball player for one year could sure help many needy students pay their tuition.Yeah, it is nuts in some ways. I understand it in the 'if you have it and that's what you want to spend it on...' view. Maybe they like hobnobbing with Cignetti or DeVries. But man, the numbers are so large, wouldn't you rather have your name associated with a new and improved academic or science projects, or even facilities for athletics sure, but just paying salaries is wild.
As much as I love sports yes at least I would want it on something significant that actually contributes to society like money for the library or science wing. Paying a guy a ton of money to dribble a basketball adds nothing to society it just maybe gets you access to the program and fulfills your own ego of possibly having a winning program.
We I had brought up why in the world is a 4 million dollar basketball player also getting free tuition especially given they probably do not even go to class. It did not go over very well but its clear the whole mission and point of college is now out the window its not at all about education with these guys it just paying them to dribble a bbal and maybe take an online test. But I highly doubt they ever see the inside of a classroom.
Those over the years that always said players needed to be paid I do not think ever thought it would be 4 million a year or even close to that. Some of these guys are going to make more than their coaches so I can see why guys like Jay Wright wanted out.
Basically looks like the players of today are simply contractual employees. (comments from a guy that likes sports)
Yeah I have always chuckled at Duke who can get any player they recruit into the school yet the acceptance rate is 4.7. Man all these top ten bbal players must score 1500 on their SAT's. LOL!
Duke University’s overall acceptance rate for the Class of 2030 (entering fall 2026) is 4.7%, a record low driven by over 61,000 applications.
I bet if you did some research on Duke MBB players and their academics, you'd find they, overall, are probably higher performing than 90% of college basketball teams. Would they get into Duke without basketball? Most, probably not. But that can be said of damned near any program in the country, including a lot of Ivys.Years ago, Knight used to get pissed off with the Big 10 scheduling those late 9:00 pm games because his players were required to go to early morning classes the next day. A big time basketball player of the present time can get accepted into virtually any university with little problem. A rare occurrence if you can find a college athlete selecting a school because of academics.The $4 million to buy a basketball player for one year could sure help many needy students pay their tuition.Yeah, it is nuts in some ways. I understand it in the 'if you have it and that's what you want to spend it on...' view. Maybe they like hobnobbing with Cignetti or DeVries. But man, the numbers are so large, wouldn't you rather have your name associated with a new and improved academic or science projects, or even facilities for athletics sure, but just paying salaries is wild.
As much as I love sports yes at least I would want it on something significant that actually contributes to society like money for the library or science wing. Paying a guy a ton of money to dribble a basketball adds nothing to society it just maybe gets you access to the program and fulfills your own ego of possibly having a winning program.
We I had brought up why in the world is a 4 million dollar basketball player also getting free tuition especially given they probably do not even go to class. It did not go over very well but its clear the whole mission and point of college is now out the window its not at all about education with these guys it just paying them to dribble a bbal and maybe take an online test. But I highly doubt they ever see the inside of a classroom.
Those over the years that always said players needed to be paid I do not think ever thought it would be 4 million a year or even close to that. Some of these guys are going to make more than their coaches so I can see why guys like Jay Wright wanted out.
Basically looks like the players of today are simply contractual employees. (comments from a guy that likes sports)
Yeah I have always chuckled at Duke who can get any player they recruit into the school yet the acceptance rate is 4.7. Man all these top ten bbal players must score 1500 on their SAT's. LOL!
Duke University’s overall acceptance rate for the Class of 2030 (entering fall 2026) is 4.7%, a record low driven by over 61,000 applications.
The only thing I know is the last bbal player I ever heard of being academically ineligible was AJ Ratcliff in 2008. I cannot recall of hearing of any player sense.
had missed the first semester after being academically ineligible and then in early February of 2008,
I bet if you did some research on Duke MBB players and their academics, you'd find they, overall, are probably higher performing than 90% of college basketball teams. Would they get into Duke without basketball? Most, probably not. But that can be said of damned near any program in the country, including a lot of Ivys.Years ago, Knight used to get pissed off with the Big 10 scheduling those late 9:00 pm games because his players were required to go to early morning classes the next day. A big time basketball player of the present time can get accepted into virtually any university with little problem. A rare occurrence if you can find a college athlete selecting a school because of academics.The $4 million to buy a basketball player for one year could sure help many needy students pay their tuition.Yeah, it is nuts in some ways. I understand it in the 'if you have it and that's what you want to spend it on...' view. Maybe they like hobnobbing with Cignetti or DeVries. But man, the numbers are so large, wouldn't you rather have your name associated with a new and improved academic or science projects, or even facilities for athletics sure, but just paying salaries is wild.
As much as I love sports yes at least I would want it on something significant that actually contributes to society like money for the library or science wing. Paying a guy a ton of money to dribble a basketball adds nothing to society it just maybe gets you access to the program and fulfills your own ego of possibly having a winning program.
We I had brought up why in the world is a 4 million dollar basketball player also getting free tuition especially given they probably do not even go to class. It did not go over very well but its clear the whole mission and point of college is now out the window its not at all about education with these guys it just paying them to dribble a bbal and maybe take an online test. But I highly doubt they ever see the inside of a classroom.
Those over the years that always said players needed to be paid I do not think ever thought it would be 4 million a year or even close to that. Some of these guys are going to make more than their coaches so I can see why guys like Jay Wright wanted out.
Basically looks like the players of today are simply contractual employees. (comments from a guy that likes sports)
Yeah I have always chuckled at Duke who can get any player they recruit into the school yet the acceptance rate is 4.7. Man all these top ten bbal players must score 1500 on their SAT's. LOL!
Duke University’s overall acceptance rate for the Class of 2030 (entering fall 2026) is 4.7%, a record low driven by over 61,000 applications.
The only thing I know is the last bbal player I ever heard of being academically ineligible was AJ Ratcliff in 2008. I cannot recall of hearing of any player sense.
had missed the first semester after being academically ineligible and then in early February of 2008,
And ow much research have you done on the investments in academic counseling, in-class attendance and overall academic support that schools have made in the last 20 years?
How familiar are you with Teamworks? Navigate?
What do you know about the APR and the penalties involved for having a failing APR?
Why is everyone counting out Sisley as a possible starter next season? He showed some signs and w a yr of development could be a starter
Why is everyone counting out Sisley as a possible starter next season? He showed some signs and w a yr of development could be a starter
yeah I agree. I think he could.
It looks like we might be back to the done deal talk again soon. I guess some of these guys must stalk recruits online and follow their every move.
reed is one of the best bigs in the country and he was 4-12 fg with 3 turnovers. the guy was a beast on the glass but a couple of his offensive rebounds were his own bad misses and many of the others were off of long braylon mullins or alex karaban bricks.
reibe played 5 total minutes in that game and had no stats other than a turnover. i can't really take much away from that performance given just how good michigan's game plan on defense was and just how inefficient basically every uconn player was.
I was at the game, and was rooting for Michigan. I wanted Reibe in the game, not Reed. When he was in the game, Michigan went at him. Box score shows he was in the game for 6 minutes and had no pts, rebounds, assists, shots, or BSs. Reed had 14 rebounds, 13 points, and hit 5-6 FTs. Mara & Johnson together had 20 pts & 14 rebounds. All three of those guys are great players. Reibe, right now, is not a great player. He very well may be by the time he's a junior. As he is right now tho, he's twice the player Alexis & Bailey are, so I'd be very happy were he to become a Hoosier.
Why is everyone counting out Sisley as a possible starter next season? He showed some signs and w a yr of development could be a starter
No one's counting him out, but you can't count on him, either. What he provides next year is anyone's guess.
Why is everyone counting out Sisley as a possible starter next season? He showed some signs and w a yr of development could be a starter
Because we have entered the offseason and this is when every IU players get hyped up big time regardless of how they did the last season or what school they are coming from . It happens every single spring and summer. If we land sherrell I have no doubt some guys on btown banners will have us penciled in as a top fifeteen team in the nation by next week.
If we are unable to get anybody worth a danm this offseason, this whole basketball program would need a full on re-brand! Start from scratch and change everything up. I’m talking new unis/warmups, all brand new state of the art facilities, etc. Get rid of all the program history talk other than the 1976 team, and just do some things that will attract players outside of the $$$! maybe updated stripper/escort services, like Louisville got with Bidunga!? I’m all outa ideas though!
You are getting my hopes really high today.