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CO. Hoosier
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@aloha-hoosier 

I don’t excuse Trump.  I’m saying most of your criticisms is irrelevant because the actions you criticize have no enduring effect.  On the other hand, the Democratic/governmental/media anti-Trump onslaught has had major negative impacts on the effectiveness and respect for many important institutions.  


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Posted : 11/03/2025 7:47 pm
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Posted by: @mcm666

@co-hoosier he’s a clown evil dumb a liar or some combination of all of it. Another AOC.  So this guy was fooling around with hip hop then got into politics just in 2020. Prior to he hadn’t really done anything.  Campaigns. Hip hop.   He doesn’t know much or is a combo of what I wrote.  

the tax promises he made he has no control over. Whether corp or earnings.  Assuming state agreed corps won’t eat that. They’ll cut wages and raise prices.  Individuals will move. Just outside of nyc or fla etc.  

the appeal to Dems in candidates who are basically adult college students mentalities is bizarre. Tons of poor. Many dumb. Don’t understand how things work.  That’s who the dems count on

The rely almost entirely on the dumb and the poor.  Those dependent on government which is the crux of the problem.  There is zero incentive for the Dems to really do anything to better the country and improve these people's lives.  It's well documented that as soon as people become successful they become more conservative.  If the pushed policies that helped lift these people out of poverty the Dem party would go extinct.

 

 

are most technocrats and professionals democrats?

 
 
 
 
Yes, available data suggests that most technocrats and professionals with higher education tend to be Democrats or lean Democratic

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Key findings include:
  • Education Level: There is a strong correlation between education level and political affiliation. Adults with a four-year college degree or more formal education are more likely to identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party.
  • Postgraduate Degrees: This trend is even more pronounced among those with postgraduate degrees; about six-in-ten registered voters with a postgraduate degree (61%) align with the Democratic Party.
  • Tech Professionals: In the technology sector specifically, the majority of both employees and entrepreneurs lean liberal and identify as Democrats. For example, a 2017 survey of elite tech founders found that over 61% identified as Democrats.
  • Support for Technocracy: Liberal Democrats are more likely to express support for technocratic (expert-driven) decision-making in policy areas such as energy and the environment compared to other political groups. 
While the traditional Technocracy movement of the 1930s was officially non-partisan, the modern professional class that values expertise and data-driven solutions is largely aligned with the Democratic party in the U.S. political landscape. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 11/03/2025 8:37 pm
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The guy whose stated mission was to fundamentally change America is not an incrementalist. He is simply ineffective. 

Going to need a link to back that up. 

Obama talked about incrementalism and compromise all the time. One of many examples:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/02/obamas-agenda-incremental-progress-not-sweeping-initiatives/273113/


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Topic starter Posted : 11/03/2025 8:39 pm
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@larsiu 

"Maybe some people just aren't wealthy enough to live in . . . "

From a Carmel person.  Shameless.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 11/03/2025 8:47 pm
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True to form, Barack is farther left than any of our Dem friends believe 

https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1984703758362685805

He probably is closer in personal politics to Mamdani than he is to a guy like Fetterman. But he's also an incrementalist, which someone like Madmdani needs in his ear if he is going to govern.  

This kinda reminds me of the backlash in Trump's first term against anyone who would serve in his cabinet or advise him.  Even if you grant the candidate/winner is a bumbling boob with terrible instincts, isn't it a benefit to surround that person with wiser, more moderate advisors?  

 

You are assuming that a terrorist-friending socialist cares what a former President has to say. Obama has always been left of moderate Dems, but the party continues to shift to the left, which will make Obama appear more moderate over time. He was anything but.

 

Like people didn't think Trump cared about what his advisors said, too, right?  Still doesn't hurt to have reasonable people in his ear.  

Obama's presidency was center left.  Many on the further left had big problems with him.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 11/03/2025 8:50 pm
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@aloha-hoosier 

I don’t excuse Trump.  I’m saying most of your criticisms is irrelevant because the actions you criticize have no enduring effect.  On the other hand, the Democratic/governmental/media anti-Trump onslaught has had major negative impacts on the effectiveness and respect for many important institutions.  

Trump has made major negative impacts on the effectiveness and respect for many important institutions. Starting with respect for our elections and going on to his weaponization of law enforcement and justice system against his perceived political enemies. There’s never been anything like it.

 


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Posted : 11/03/2025 8:56 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

elections and going on to his weaponization of law enforcement and justice system against his perceived political enemies. There’s never been anything like it.

how about just anointing a candidate?   


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Posted : 11/03/2025 9:18 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

elections and going on to his weaponization of law enforcement and justice system against his perceived political enemies. There’s never been anything like it.

how about just anointing a candidate?   

Big mistake by the Democrats. It was too late to do the primary because many states already voted and too late to add candidates for states that were left, but they should have announced the convention would choose a candidate. A short period of announcements and debates would have been interesting and I doubt Harris would have been chosen. 

Primaries aren’t required by law and I’d be good with getting rid of them.


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Posted : 11/03/2025 10:05 pm
CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @bradstevens

the modern professional class that values expertise and data-driven solutions is largely aligned with the Democratic party in the U.S. political landscape. 

I don’t think modern professional class is driven by objective data and evidence.  Instead money and ideology rules the roost.  But I agree, most of those who use science to get rich or advance their chosen ideology are democrats.  


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Posted : 11/03/2025 10:15 pm
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@bradstevens just keeping you on your toes.

To be fair, I couldn’t live in Manhattan. but I’m not bitching about it. 


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Posted : 11/04/2025 7:29 am
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @co-hoosier

@aloha-hoosier 

I don’t excuse Trump.  I’m saying most of your criticisms is irrelevant because the actions you criticize have no enduring effect.  On the other hand, the Democratic/governmental/media anti-Trump onslaught has had major negative impacts on the effectiveness and respect for many important institutions.  

Trump has made major negative impacts on the effectiveness and respect for many important institutions. Starting with respect for our elections and going on to his weaponization of law enforcement and justice system against his perceived political enemies. There’s never been anything like it.

 

The next tangible effect you list will be the first.  Nothing but hand wringing & pearl clutching driven by emotions…

 


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Posted : 11/04/2025 8:49 am
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Obama’s presidency was center left.  Many on the further left had big problems with him.  

He was the most liberal President in modern history. The people on the far left have issues with anyone who isn't a terrorist or socialist.


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Posted : 11/04/2025 10:42 am
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@jdb prior to biden.  biden was basically aoc.  wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy left


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Posted : 11/04/2025 10:45 am
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@jdb prior to biden.  biden was basically aoc.  wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy left

 


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