@big-ryan lol....running a closet gay guy in Texas wasn't the best idea for liberals if you wanted to win. I'll take Paxon. You can take Talarico.
Of course you'll take Paxton, even though you can't spell his name. He's as crooked as they come.
As far as sexual orientation, I don't give a shit about what two consenting adults do in private. That doesn't affect me or my family in the least. I hadn't heard Talarico was gay, couldn't care less if true, and assume that narrative is just part of a smear campaign, the same as the rumors regarding Mike Johnson and Josh Hawley.
Home heating oil prices are set to increase more than 30% this winter, requiring "significant sacrifices" by consumers.
The list of impacted goods and services will only grow the longer diesel stays high, with grocery prices, delivery fees, and anything seasonal likely to experience price impacts.
Thanks, Trump.
How record diesel prices will rip through the U.S. economy
Even more than Iran, the spike in diesel is attributable to successful Ukranian attacks on Russian refineries.
Trump must end all support to Ukraine tomorrow and demand they stop launching strikes into Russia.
Even more than Iran, the spike in diesel is attributable to successful Ukranian attacks on Russian refineries.
Trump must end all support to Ukraine tomorrow and demand they stop launching strikes into Russia.
It's almost like they're reacting to being invaded.
Weird.
Even more than Iran, the spike in diesel is attributable to successful Ukranian attacks on Russian refineries.
Trump must end all support to Ukraine tomorrow and demand they stop launching strikes into Russia.
Supposedly Trump already said that a couple days ago. I don't think they listened though.
At this point though, we're not really supporting them that much anyways.
Russia stopped exporting oil to cover the deficiencies in overall supply being created by the Iran war. Ukraine is hitting Russian refineries to hurt Russia economically, which is one of the few means they have of hurting Russia on Russian soil (since refineries do not have high defensive capabilities and tend to blow up nicely with minimal explosives).
At this point, Zelensky has figured out that he is pretty much on his own. So yeah, I get it.
There is another solution though. Congress could reapply the ban on oil exports that was lifted in 2015 (had been banned for the past 40 years). We produce all the diesel that we consume, the price is only rising here because we are selling / exporting to Europe, who has a deficiency since Russia stopped exporting.
It would be political suicide for Republicans though because the oil donors would likely express their dissatisfaction with that decision considering it would cost them billions of dollars in profit.
@squeakyclean well that post is completely bunk. We are of course still supporting Ukraine massively. We are providing targeting information, even on energy infrastructure, we are selling weapons to NATO who transfer them to Ukraine. Without U.S. support this war is over in months.
Reimposing crude restrictions would not lower Diesel prices in the long term. Is the idea to take the restrictions off again once the conflicts in Russia and Iran have subsided? Even in the short term a temporary drop is a tenuous idea.
Gas is expensive. If we're going to tuck tail in Iran for that reason, we ought to do the same with Ukraine.
We are of course still supporting Ukraine massively. We are providing targeting information, even on energy infrastructure, we are selling weapons to NATO who transfer them to Ukraine. Without U.S. support this war is over in months.
Reimposing crude restrictions would not lower Diesel prices in the long term. Is the idea to take the restrictions off again once the conflicts in Russia and Iran have subsided? Even in the short term a temporary drop is a tenuous idea.
Gas is expensive. If we're going to tuck tail in Iran for that reason, we ought to do the same with Ukraine.
Wait, you're saying that we are telling them where to bomb Russian energy infrastructure? Looking that up, yeah, it does look like this is true. So, we give them the locations of oil refineries in Russia, they bomb them, and now we are pissed off that they bombed them?
Sounds like the Iran war is indeed the bigger influence here after all then, because we seemed perfectly fine letting them blow up Russian refineries before the Iran shortages came along.
I'm not sure that reimposing the restrictions wouldn't lower the prices long term HERE. Diesel prices have been rising steadily since 2016 ($2 to ~$3.50). Remove the spikes for Covid (down) and Russia Ukraine hostilities (up, once in 2022 when Russia first invaded and everybody imposed sanctions and now again when Ukraine hit the refineries) and you can see a pretty even trend line. It's an isolationist mindset though. We would have plenty of capacity to make all the diesel we need. The only reason the price is higher here is because we export it. There is a worldwide (mild) shortage, but if we truly wanted to, we could do exactly what Russia is doing and tell the rest of the world "you are on your own" and just produce what we need for ourselves. But the Oil companies here would lose billions in revenue / profit. They would scream bloody murder if the export restriction was reenacted.
We are of course still supporting Ukraine massively. We are providing targeting information, even on energy infrastructure, we are selling weapons to NATO who transfer them to Ukraine. Without U.S. support this war is over in months.
Reimposing crude restrictions would not lower Diesel prices in the long term. Is the idea to take the restrictions off again once the conflicts in Russia and Iran have subsided? Even in the short term a temporary drop is a tenuous idea.
Gas is expensive. If we're going to tuck tail in Iran for that reason, we ought to do the same with Ukraine.
Wait, you're saying that we are telling them where to bomb Russian energy infrastructure? Looking that up, yeah, it does look like this is true. So, we give them the locations of oil refineries in Russia, they bomb them, and now we are pissed off that they bombed them?
Sounds like the Iran war is indeed the bigger influence here after all then, because we seemed perfectly fine letting them blow up Russian refineries before the Iran shortages came along.
I'm not sure that reimposing the restrictions wouldn't lower the prices long term HERE. Diesel prices have been rising steadily since 2016 ($2 to ~$3.50). Remove the spikes for Covid (down) and Russia Ukraine hostilities (up, once in 2022 when Russia first invaded and everybody imposed sanctions and now again when Ukraine hit the refineries) and you can see a pretty even trend line. It's an isolationist mindset though. We would have plenty of capacity to make all the diesel we need. The only reason the price is higher here is because we export it. There is a worldwide (mild) shortage, but if we truly wanted to, we could do exactly what Russia is doing and tell the rest of the world "you are on your own" and just produce what we need for ourselves. But the Oil companies here would lose billions in revenue / profit. They would scream bloody murder if the export restriction was reenacted.
You believe that because you live in progressive fairly land. Producers would decrease production if confined to the U.S. market. Refineries in turn cut crude processing. Gulf refineries were built explicitly to export, they would struggle to ship inland. The global increase in price from taking our oil of the market would hit here as well.
We have helped Ukraine target energy infrastructure, I’m right, you’re wrong.
- The Impact of Ukraine (60% to 65%): Long-range Ukrainian drone strikes have targeted and knocked offline major Russian diesel-producing refineries. Because Russia is a major global producer, these disruptions have essentially halted its diesel exports, severely straining global refined product supplies. GasBuddy notes this explains why diesel prices have risen much faster than standard gasoline, as the attacks target refining infrastructure directly. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
- The Impact of Iran (Remaining 35% to 40%): The rest of the price surge is attributed to the ongoing conflict with Iran and the resulting disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz. Iran's efforts to choke off transit through this vital shipping checkpoint have driven up the base cost of crude oil globally. [1]
Ukraine started hitting those refineries last year. We gave them the targeting information.
So, ergo, we intended for them to hit those refineries. So why was it OK for Ukraine to hit those refineries before and drive up diesel prices, but it's not OK now? (Perhaps because the Iran war screw-up is kicking things even higher and is likely the defining reason that the GOP will lose the midterms, but rather than Trump admitting his mistakes, he has to blame somebody else....Ukraine enters the chat).
As to the oil refineries here in the US cutting production, I do know / agree that the infrastructure is not set up well to get diesel to the NE and NW areas of the country, but that could be fixed. Just like Snarl has talked about how pipelines could be created by the Saudis to bypass the strait of Hormuz, we are fully capable of creating that infrastructure ourselves. It would be an investment in America!!! Jobs!!! I would think that the MAGA crowd would be all for that.
Instead, you think that they would cut production to increase the price, and you're probably right, but that says more about the oil companies and their stranglehold on our economy than it does about ways that we the public / government can reduce prices.
Ukraine started hitting those refineries last year. We gave them the targeting information.
So, ergo, we intended for them to hit those refineries. So why was it OK for Ukraine to hit those refineries before and drive up diesel prices, but it's not OK now? (Perhaps because the Iran war screw-up is kicking things even higher and is likely the defining reason that the GOP will lose the midterms, but rather than Trump admitting his mistakes, he has to blame somebody else....Ukraine enters the chat).
As to the oil refineries here in the US cutting production, I do know / agree that the infrastructure is not set up well to get diesel to the NE and NW areas of the country, but that could be fixed. Just like Snarl has talked about how pipelines could be created by the Saudis to bypass the strait of Hormuz, we are fully capable of creating that infrastructure ourselves. It would be an investment in America!!! Jobs!!! I would think that the MAGA crowd would be all for that.
Instead, you think that they would cut production to increase the price, and you're probably right, but that says more about the oil companies and their stranglehold on our economy than it does about ways that we the public / government can reduce prices.
Oil producers would cut production to avoid a glut that threatens their business. Not because of some sort of malevolence towards the American consumer. So your plan would require forced overproduction as well as export controls, at which point we should just nationalize them.
A government works project is not appealing to me, can't speak for MAGA.
Ukraine and Iran are both factors. Putin canceling diesel exports due to refinery attacks are a larger source of upward pressure.
If the priority is gas prices above all, and make no mistake that is the D midterm messaging, then Ukraine must be abandoned.
This is fine.
https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/2100947197470622026
https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/2100942164414898324
National average is $4.44 and rising.
“It’s a very inexpensive price to pay for what we’ve done. Remember that."
For what he's done? Started a deadly and exorbitantly costly war that's made the Middle East more of a tinderbox than it already was, created serious shortfalls in our advanced munitions stockpiles, and driven up inflation? With no victory or off-ramp? Pathetic leadership.
"It [gas prices] is a little more. Frankly, even if it was a lot more. But that’s going to come tumbling down.” Sure, just like Covid will be gone "when the weather gets warmer." "Like a miracle!"
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