Morons believe. Despite the fact that Rudy Guiliani said under oath twice that he and the Trump team knew they were lying about the 2020 election being stolen, the morons still believe the Big Lie.@ohio-guy we do know they are voting illegally. I don’t believe enough to sway elections. But in a close race it may not take much. I also firmly believe that Dems don’t want ID or anything else and would cheat in a heartbeat to win. I mean duh. They lied nonstop about Biden
Who is 'they?' I don't believe there has ever been significant illegal voting to sway a national or statewide election. And the party of 'just find me 11,000 votes' isn't exactly as pure as driven snow.
”I don’t believe”, yep, I’m sure that’s true. If both sides are cheating, it’s all the more reason to put preventative measures in place. Dems want to preserve avenues for cheating.
”I don’t believe”, yep, I’m sure that’s true. If both sides are cheating, it’s all the more reason to put preventative measures in place. Dems want to preserve avenues for cheating.
Yes, "I don't believe" it because there are no facts to prove it. If there were facts to prove it I would have written that I believe accusations of illegal voting to sway an election were true.
This isn't hard.
So 2 more months until the stupid TV commercials end. These commercials really show the stupidity of our POS politicians. I see no reason to vote for any of these racists and criminals running for a Federal position. I'd gladly be a proxy vote for a citizen or non-citizen for a bag of _____. They can't pick anyone who supports Israel and their wars or any wars for that matter. They can't pick anyone who is socialist or communist, racist and bases their campaign on hate. So in the end it seems I won't be voting or get my bag.
All the more reason to have secure voting practices.
Wouldn't the fact that Trump failed in pressuring Raffensberger prove that we have - or had - secure voting practices?
Recall too that Trump started with the "this election is/will be rife with fraud" bullshit months before the 2024 presidential election. Of course, when he won, the fraud talk immediately stopped.
He's utterly full of shit, all day, every day, and his constant sowing of doubt about election integrity is causing incalculable harm. This has been a trainwreck of a presidency, and he's a trainwreck of a "man."
"He has no principles. None." - Judge Maryanne Trump Barry, DJT's sister.
Something tells me we haven't even seen the worst of him. The period between November 3 and January 3 could be tumultuous.
D’s lose ground in both chambers because of socialist, communist and radical Muslim mouthpieces.
Trump tweets and comments have become white noise and won’t cost R’s seats.
All the more reason to have secure voting practices.
Wouldn't the fact that Trump failed in pressuring Raffensberger prove that we have - or had - secure voting practices?
Recall too that Trump started with the "this election is/will be rife with fraud" bullshit months before the 2024 presidential election. Of course, when he won, the fraud talk immediately stopped.
He's utterly full of shit, all day, every day, and his constant sowing of doubt about election integrity is causing incalculable harm. This has been a trainwreck of a presidency, and he's a trainwreck of a "man."
"He has no principles. None." - Judge Maryanne Trump Barry, DJT's sister.
I don’t care that Trump and his team have been ineffective at finding evidence or proving that there has been fraud. Can you elaborate on what type of indisputable evidence would exist if widespread fraud occurred?
I don’t care that many of you believe or hope that there has not been nor will ever be enough fraud to sway an election.
It is a fact that there has been voting fraud in prior elections. It’s documented. By both sides.
The only way to ensure that it won’t happen is to put preventative measures in place. Confirming you are a US citizen & eligible to vote is not unreasonable. Securing voter rolls to ensure only eligible voters are on them is not unreasonable.
The only people that preventative measures hurt are the people that would commit the fraud or benefit from it. It really is that simple. There are dozens of things that a valid ID are needed for, voting should be one of them. It has nothing to do with Trump. It has everything to do with the absence of trust due to the fraud that Democrats & have allowed & even condoned & foreign adversaries have perpetrated against us . Or do you contend that fraud is not an issue in other government programs?
I know I’m wasting my time, but this can be boiled down to a couple of simple questions.
Do Democrats advocate up to date, accurate voter rolls filled only with eligible voters? No.
Are Democrats willing to accept voting fraud regardless of its volume? Yes.
This is indisputable.
All the more reason to have secure voting practices.
Wouldn't the fact that Trump failed in pressuring Raffensberger prove that we have - or had - secure voting practices?
Wouldn't arrests of people who voted illegally prove that we don't have secure voting practices?
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@ohio-guy they is all the people who have been caught cheating. Throwing away ballots on and on. Who knows how much it adds up to. Who knows how much influence it has. We know at the very top of the Dem party they cheated. They lied about Biden. You think it’s above lunatics in the base to cheat. Please.
Recall too that Trump started with the "this election is/will be rife with fraud" bullshit months before the 2024 presidential election. Of course, when he won, the fraud talk immediately stopped.
Remember when Hillary claimed that she lost due to fraud and hacking and russian interference and...?
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”I don’t believe”, yep, I’m sure that’s true. If both sides are cheating, it’s all the more reason to put preventative measures in place. Dems want to preserve avenues for cheating.
Yes, "I don't believe" it because there are no facts to prove it. If there were facts to prove it I would have written that I believe accusations of illegal voting to sway an election were true.
This isn't hard.
How many illegals are there in the US?
Wouldn't arrests of people who voted illegally prove that we don't have secure voting practices?
Given that their votes don't count after they're arrested, it might actually prove the opposite.
Wouldn't arrests of people who voted illegally prove that we don't have secure voting practices?
Given that their votes don't count after they're arrested, it might actually prove the opposite.
No it wouldn't. Those votes were already counted and the election is over.
You're smarter than that argument.
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