People are welcome to their own interpretation, as their opinions are not relevant to the personal relationship between them and Jesus.
I don't want to debate you on the particular interpretations of these quotes, but I would like to know how far you believe what you wrote above goes. Is it your opinion that if a person's own, personal interpretation of the Bible and Jesus's teachings is genuine in their own mind, no matter how different than what you think the words actually can be used to mean, that that person's interpretation is valid as to them?
By valid, I guess I mean it will be met with God's approval and earn them an entry into Heaven, but I'd like to hear your critique or limitation if you feel it would be enlightening.
Seriously, not trying to catch you in anything, just interested in what you wrote and what you mean by it.
By valid, I guess I mean it will be met with God's approval and earn them an entry into Heaven, but I'd like to hear your critique or limitation if you feel it would be enlightening.
I hope it's ok that I respond to your question. I do so with all humility.
I believe that the following scriptures may help to answer your question regarding entry into our Father's Kingdom.
That's cool. I would like to know QParker's view, though.By valid, I guess I mean it will be met with God's approval and earn them an entry into Heaven, but I'd like to hear your critique or limitation if you feel it would be enlightening.
I hope it's ok that I respond to your question. I do so with all humility.
I believe that the following scriptures may help to answer your question regarding entry into our Father's Kingdom.
Matthew 7:2121 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.John 14:1515 “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.Matthew 22:36-40Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”John 13:34A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.Galatians 5:13-14For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”Ephesians 2:8-98 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
As for what you've posted, it doesn't help me. I'm asking: in your mind, can an individual mistakenly interpret the Bible's requirements, and if so, does that matter for his own personal soul, even if his misinterpretation is a good faith mistake?
As for what you've posted, it doesn't help me. I'm asking: in your mind, can an individual mistakenly interpret the Bible's requirements, and if so, does that matter for his own personal soul, even if his misinterpretation is a good faith mistake?
I shared those scriptures to demonstrate what is most important in God's eyes. I certainly believe that well-intentioned but mistaken people enter Heaven every day. Conversely, there are undoubtedly people with a keen understanding that take a trip to Hell after death because they do not know or follow Jesus, as described in Matthew 7:21-23.
1 Corinthians 13:2
And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
Essentially, we're supposed to seek our creator and obey his will, which includes loving one another. That's basically it.
I shared those scriptures to demonstrate what is most important in God's eyes. I certainly believe that well-intentioned but mistaken people enter Heaven every day.
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Essentially, we're supposed to seek our creator and obey his will, which includes loving one another. That's basically it.
So a right living atheist is still fucked, right?
So a right living atheist is still fucked, right?
I don't know. Only Jesus can judge a person's heart. I believe it's possible that atheists die, meet Jesus, immediately embrace him and go straight into God's Kingdom. Conversely, I definitely believe that there are Christians who will be sent to "Hell" to receive chastening and refinement. I don't believe in the "forever punishment" theology to which many Christians subscribe. Nobody is cast off forever.
Lamentations 3:31 esv
For the Lord will not cast off forever
Of course MAGA would think morality is overrated. They sold their morals for Trump.
Yea, they should have voted for the moral abortionists.
You mean pro choice .
Don't give me the pro life crap when your response to shootings is nothing more than thoughts and prayers and response to ice agents murdering people is victim blaming
Of course MAGA would think morality is overrated. They sold their morals for Trump.
Yea, they should have voted for the moral abortionists.
You mean pro choice .
Don't give me the pro life crap when your response to shootings is nothing more than thoughts and prayers and response to ice agents murdering people is victim blaming
The U.S. doesn't have a gun problem; the U.S. has a God problem as in they don't follow him.
Of course MAGA would think morality is overrated. They sold their morals for Trump.
Yea, they should have voted for the moral abortionists.
You mean pro choice .
Don't give me the pro life crap when your response to shootings is nothing more than thoughts and prayers and response to ice agents murdering people is victim blaming
The U.S. doesn't have a gun problem; the U.S. has a God problem as in they don't follow him.
LBB,
Quakers and Buddists along with some other religions would not agree with you.
Despite my strong pacifist leanings, I do agree with those who oppose the use of terror to promote their religious, political, and economic ideologies. Hate to say it, but the war on Iran does have merit.
Having said that, the peace through strength slogan of super powers and the potential dangers of a home grown biological weapon could mark the end of mankind.(think Covid).
Thus the world has a "gun" problem thanks to God allowing us to have a free will. Only time will tell whether our free will ultimately ends up making ourselves as our own worse enemy.
Maybe the world has a race problem. As in, a race between the sane and the psychotic to determine our destiny.
The Secretary of Agriculture sent, via email, an Easter greeting last Sunday to the nearly 100,000 department employees in 4,500 offices around the country. The message was captioned, "Happy Easter. He is Risen indeed!" and read: "From the foot of the Cross on Good Friday to the stone rolled away from the now empty tomb, sin has been destroyed. Jesus has been raised from the dead. And God has granted each of us victory and new life. And where there is life — risen life — there is hope.”
What do you think about this communication from the Secretary?
Of course MAGA would think morality is overrated. They sold their morals for Trump.
Yea, they should have voted for the moral abortionists.
You mean pro choice .
Don't give me the pro life crap when your response to shootings is nothing more than thoughts and prayers and response to ice agents murdering people is victim blaming
The U.S. doesn't have a gun problem; the U.S. has a God problem as in they don't follow him.
LBB,
Quakers and Buddists along with some other religions would not agree with you.
Despite my strong pacifist leanings, I do agree with those who oppose the use of terror to promote their religious, political, and economic ideologies. Hate to say it, but the war on Iran does have merit.
Having said that, the peace through strength slogan of super powers and the potential dangers of a home grown biological weapon could mark the end of mankind.(think Covid).
Thus the world has a "gun" problem thanks to God allowing us to have a free will. Only time will tell whether our free will ultimately ends up making ourselves as our own worse enemy.
I appreciate your perspective and I thank you for sharing it. The fact is that great evil exists and we must use righteousness judgment and stop it when possible. Even Jesus commanded his apostles to buy a sword. Sometimes, evil must be violently opposed. Thank you again..
@big-ryan I believe that the Secretary of Agriculture should leave out religious doctrine in his official communications.
@hhlurker Do you believe it's wise for western societies to flood their communities with third-world Islamists?
Definitely not on my wish list.@hhlurker Do you believe it's wise for western societies to flood their communities with third-world Islamists?
I know Italians who are very upset about it. I think a lot of of Europe is paying a high cost for all the refugees from the Middle East. we’re lucky we have the Atlantic Ocean and the Pacific Ocean guarding most of our borders.
I’m personally quite satisfied with our current immigration laws. I think those laws should be enforced to the best of our ability.
