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@arthur-dent no one has any idea.  Privacy. Reporting etc.  I’m sure it’s a small number  no different than full term abortions   In my view one is too many.  Skimming this I believed it involved insured.  So I suspect t these numbers are way less than self pay bc of coverage/denials

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11211955/


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@bar-down 

Although I agree with your point wholeheartedly, I think you missed Marvin‘s point about checks and balances. It’s hard to list anything that Trump could do that the GOP Congress would do anything about. 

Orgies in the White House? No problem.

1000% tariffs on all Canadian imports? Good to go.

Firing generals in the military? You’re the CIC. 

Nuking Iran? Gotta do what ya gotta do.

Depleting completely our military weapons? Teach those goat frackers a lesson.

On and on  

 

 

What are some notable examples of a Democrat controlled Congress directly defying Biden or Obama?

 


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Posted : 09/26/2026 12:44 pm
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@carramrod A couple of times on legislation, not signing the TPP being one of them. They also had over 100 House and 30 Senate members opposing Obama's deportation efforts. Syria would be the best case. After the "red line" was crossed, he went to Congress and asked for military approval. He didn't get the votes. So he brokered a deal with Syria, which is the way our government is supposed to work. 

Should they have done something on Biden's mental health, I think so, but I suspect the rank and file probably had no idea. But questions should have been asked even if it meant calling in staff and grilling them on national tv. Congress should have asked about the documents found in his garage.

But neither pushed the envelope on a lot of things we see from Trump. Congress voted 257 million to repair the Kennedy Center, what has been done on that front? Has congress asked any real questions? Same for the East Wing. Same for running an ad for Trump paid for with tax dollars (I suspect there is no way you think that is a good idea). Same for the timing of his stock trades. The prez can't be buying stock shortly before announcing a big deal to that company. Congress should ask what Trump plans to do with Top Secret documents in 2029 and pass laws making sure they don't follow him out the door (very easy to do, claim it is a high crime and/or misdemeanor so any president pardoning themselves will not work).

Up until Reagan, there were liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats. The parties now are far more aligned. There is no incentive to go after a president of one's party. But the original idea is that congress would fight to protect its power. Now congress is willing to sit back and let the President chart the course. CO talks about the younger generation being afraid to stand up, he's totally wrong. Congress has for 30 years shed as much power as possible to the president to avoid being blamed. Those people running congress and passing open-ended laws weren't the youth.  


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@arthur-dent your beliefs are completely bunk Marv. Trump wants to nuke the filibuster, Republican senate has told him no time and again. The idea that this Congress  is somehow more beholden to their presidents party than previous ones is Democrat, bullshit claptrap. Anyone who says as much should feel stupid


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@carramrod Sorry you are incapable of serious conversation.


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@arthur-dent such a conversation would inevitably devolve into a tit for tat citing examples when the Congress stood up to the President of their own party. It’s a fucking waste of time.

 

Which is why I’m right and your contention that this specific Congress is somehow different is bullshit.


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But the original idea is that congress would fight to protect its power. Now congress is willing to sit back and let the President chart the course. CO talks about the younger generation being afraid to stand up, he's totally wrong. Congress has for 30 years shed as much power as possible to the president to avoid being blamed. Those people running congress and passing open-ended laws weren't the youth.  

Some 50 years ago Congress started handing over authority to the executive so as to avoid politically contentious votes. SS COLA is the best example, but others abound. Yes, it makes sense to lay out the purpose and goals of a policy in the legislation and allow subject experts in the executive branch to write the rules (see the EPA) but it also allows them to point the finger elsewhere if/when those rules piss people off. Do we really want people like AOC and Grassley debating snail darters?


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It's not just sports, happens in professional world all the time. Guys that are in their 70s still working because they have nothing else in their life, and would probably die if they retired.

There's something to be said for old fucks staying busy doing lame shit like delivering car parts. I had to get out of my purchasing job before I killed myself or someone else, but there is no way I could have not had a place to go and something to do once I retired.

I've mentioned that I do a little volunteer work with people who are down on their luck. One guy recently came to us who had done well his entire life. Then he retired. He ended up staying home and drinking all day. He's off the booze now, and I'm looking into getting him a job with me at NAPA delivering parts part time. Neither of us need the money to make ends meet (although it helps), but I think most of us need some kind of purpose outside ourselves.


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Youngsters going through k-12 education without discipline and earning participation ribbons and going through higher ed with speech codes, safe spaces, and spineless mentors, and then wondering why they don’t have power are a bigger problem.  

who invented that garbage? Your generation. I got participation trophies for no reason playing rec league sports. You might get something extra if you won a tourney or league, but everyone got something. 

boomers normalized lgbtq, mental illness and feelings. They also ruined school by removing shop class and setting it up so males are less likely to keep up from kindergarten on.

Thanks for proving our point old fart

 


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who invented that garbage? Your generation.

To be fair to CoH, I think he could be (wouldn't that be ironic) the Silent Generation...th coffee

 


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@jdb 

Blaming others for one’s problems and failing to take responsibility for shortcomings is also an issue of the younger generation.  


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 Is it as CoH states, it’s because young men don’t have the abilities to take over, or is it because politicians and those serving in government are no longer respected?


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boomers normalized lgbtq

Actually it was psychiatrists under the pressure of gay activists. Once it was gone from DSM the other dominoes fell. 

 


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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4695779/


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@jdb I don’t think that’s right jdb.  Coh is my parents age.  I played for Busch. Scott Gallagher was around then too. One team per age group. You got cut that was it.  The dads in my friends group and teams growing up were ball buster hard asses. Nothing like my friends who are dads today. 

im 55 I think it was more my gen that ruined things than coh’s. 


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