these things are becoming a hot topic all over. as whacky is ny is my initial reaction is good for ny. i'm not understanding why we, residents, should bear the increased costs of electricity to fund these things. let amazon and the rest pay for it.
if others know more about this topic let's hear it. the city here just approved one for $3 billion at the old armory. @larsiu when i was in grade school we played winter indoor there one season. 6 am saturday morning games in the dead of winter in that place. was absolutely freezing. size of 4 football fields
these things are becoming a hot topic all over. as whacky is ny is my initial reaction is good for ny. i'm not understanding why we, residents, should bear the increased costs of electricity to fund these things. let amazon and the rest pay for it.
if others know more about this topic let's hear it. the city here just approved one for $3 billion at the old armory. @larsiu when i was in grade school we played winter indoor there one season. 6 am saturday morning games in the dead of winter in that place. was absolutely freezing. size of 4 football fields
You could use the same argument for any business. I think it's people being fearful of something new and New York is making another poor decision.
There's a lot of bullshit being put out there about DC's as far as increased electric bills and their water usage. Tread carefully. I'm not saying they aren't concerns in some cases (maybe 5%) but in the vast majority these companies are bringing their own power generation and the water thing is no longer an issue.
Also the anti-DC movement, at root, is being driven by the same climate ghoulism that we are all too familiar with. Their concern is with the increased energy production, not people's electric bills (which isn't even really an issue).
@carramrod Power-hungry data centers are springing up nationwide to support expanded artificial intelligence capabilities. Wholesale electricity costs have increased up to 267% in areas located near significant data center activity from 2020 to 2025, according to a Bloomberg News analysis.
@snarlcakes it's not any business though. "any" business isn't a pull like these as i understand it (and i don't really).
I think we should 100% make the tech giants pay for their own energy. But we should let them use micro nuclear reactors to provide that power. Partly b/c I'm throwing small change at the micro nuclear reactor companies I can reach and I'd like that to take off and make me rich. Thanks in advance.
@larsiu i read that hte one hyperscale data center will consume more energy than the entire city of new orleans. why should residents pay for that.
@carramrod Power-hungry data centers are springing up nationwide to support expanded artificial intelligence capabilities. Wholesale electricity costs have increased up to 267% in areas located near significant data center activity from 2020 to 2025, according to a Bloomberg News analysis.
An Elizabeth Warren talking point. Wholesale costs are not consumer costs. Wholesale electricity costs only make up 30-50% of your consumer electric bill.
Surely DC's have increased consumer prices in SOME areas. This is already in the process of being corrected and is not a long term problem. I'm not suggesting localities don't do their due diligence before standing up DC's. I'm saying this can either be an opportunity to unleash American power generation, or an opportunity for climate ghouls and those scared of change to stop the wheels of progress. I know what side I'm on.
A state-wide moratorium is the type of blunt instrument that can only spawn from progressive retardism.
@carramrod 50 percent of your consumer bill is significant. Why should residents of a community effectively subsidize big tech? It will inure to our benefit? We didn’t ask for it. I don’t give a shit about AI. Your average Joe doesn’t want to subsidize Bezos. Nor do I. And I’m firmly in the camp of if Bezos can make a trillion dollars good on him! I’m all for it. But I’m not paying his facilities’ electricity
@bar-down that’s due diligence. This is a market problem that is being solved if we will allow it to. Every major AI player has signed Trump’s rate payer protection pledge as it relates to new projects.
It’s why it’s imperative Democrats don’t take control. They will cap production and accordingly AI development while making you poorer. If allowed to play out it will look like every AI company standing up their own power generation behind the meter and in some cases even selling it back to the grid.
1st order thinking of looking at some electric bills in some areas is Dumbocrat shit.
@carramrod https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/ask-expert-are-data-centers-driving-my-electricity-bills
anyway if your hypothesis is accurate all good. makes sense. as for dems there's a growing list of why it's imperative that dems don't win elections, anywhere.
Maybe a statewide law is the blunt instrument necessary to force data centers to do their due diligence and pay upfront to prevent citizens from having to pay.
An individual citizen can’t fight this fight. So who will?
@carramrod https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/ask-expert-are-data-centers-driving-my-electricity-bills
anyway if your hypothesis is accurate all good. makes sense. as for dems there's a growing list of why it's imperative that dems don't win elections, anywhere.
Looks like one is going in NW of St Louis on 70…also, do you know this #metoo lawyer? Billboards say “harassed at work? Jungle lawyering? Also, you know this Morgan and Morgan outfit? Old man looks like he’s probably rolling in the dinero. Missouri loves billboards
@spartans9312 no and it's a shame with the metoo stuff because she looks dirty. there's a data center planned right next to slu. $3 billion bucks. morgan and morgan is the largest personal injury advertising firm in the country. they're out of fla. their endless advertising is disgusting. fla gov crist "worked" there.