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CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @goat

The "Never Trump" movement was a movement within the Republican party, specifically among old-guard establishment conservatives.

That’s not my recollection. I don’t think Trump opponents called themselves “never trumpers”. That name sprung from those who disagreed with them and it applies more broadly. 


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Topic starter Posted : 08/27/2026 7:22 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @goat

The "Never Trump" movement was a movement within the Republican party, specifically among old-guard establishment conservatives.

That’s not my recollection. I don’t think Trump opponents called themselves “never trumpers”. That name sprung from those who disagreed with them and it applies more broadly. 

Wrong. It started during the 2016 primaries and many Republicans said they’d take any of the Republicans in the race over Trump. We became Never Trumpers.

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 7:35 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @goat

The "Never Trump" movement was a movement within the Republican party, specifically among old-guard establishment conservatives.

That’s not my recollection. I don’t think Trump opponents called themselves “never trumpers”. That name sprung from those who disagreed with them and it applies more broadly. 

Wrong. It started during the 2016 primaries and many Republicans said they’d take any of the Republicans in the race over Trump. We became Never Trumpers.

 

 

That’s been my approach to Trump in Republican primaries. 

I guess I’m a Never Trumper myself. 

Nah. The Never Trumpers are the ones who let their brain get rat fucked and started voting for Democrats and molesting people. Grifting off the strange new credibility and maybe even money they could get from Democrats and other Trump haters.

Like you and the Lincoln Project for instance. 

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 7:41 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @goat

The "Never Trump" movement was a movement within the Republican party, specifically among old-guard establishment conservatives.

That’s not my recollection. I don’t think Trump opponents called themselves “never trumpers”. That name sprung from those who disagreed with them and it applies more broadly. 

Wrong. It started during the 2016 primaries and many Republicans said they’d take any of the Republicans in the race over Trump. We became Never Trumpers.

 

 

That’s been my approach to Trump in Republican primaries. 

I guess I’m a Never Trumper myself. 

Nah. The Never Trumpers are the ones who let their brain get rat fucked and started voting for Democrats and molesting people. Grifting off the strange new credibility and maybe even money they could get from Democrats and other Trump haters.

Like you and the Lincoln Project for instance. 

 

Aren’t you gay and a member of the Log Cabin Republicans? 

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 7:51 pm
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@aloha-hoosier 

Then I’m a never Trumper x 2. Thanks for clearing that up. 


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Topic starter Posted : 08/27/2026 7:56 pm
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Then I’m a never Trumper x 2. Thanks for clearing that up. 

It’s more than opposing him in the primaries. It’s acknowledgement that he’s unfit for the office he holds. 

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 8:01 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @goat

The "Never Trump" movement was a movement within the Republican party, specifically among old-guard establishment conservatives.

That’s not my recollection. I don’t think Trump opponents called themselves “never trumpers”. That name sprung from those who disagreed with them and it applies more broadly. 

Wrong. It started during the 2016 primaries and many Republicans said they’d take any of the Republicans in the race over Trump. We became Never Trumpers.

 

 

That’s been my approach to Trump in Republican primaries. 

I guess I’m a Never Trumper myself. 

Nah. The Never Trumpers are the ones who let their brain get rat fucked and started voting for Democrats and molesting people. Grifting off the strange new credibility and maybe even money they could get from Democrats and other Trump haters.

Like you and the Lincoln Project for instance. 

 

Aren’t you gay and a member of the Log Cabin Republicans? 

 

 

”Aren’t you a member of the Log Cabin Republicans?”

 

Would be the dig you’re looking for. It doesn’t explain the joke and avoids your trademark redundancy. 

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 8:02 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

It’s more than opposing him in the primaries. It’s acknowledgement that he’s unfit for the office he holds. 

Lol I might be able to get to the unfit part. That wouldn’t stop me from supporting and defending some of Trump’s positions. However,  Does a never Trumper also hafta say jack smith is a good lawyer and his DC indictments had merit?  I can’t ever get there  

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Topic starter Posted : 08/27/2026 8:10 pm
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@co-hoosier never trumpers are Republicans. They are people who think Trump represents something wholly incompatible with traditional conservative values. People like Aloha.

Just hold on a second, Goat.  Aloha is a Biden and Kate Hobbs voting sh#t lib.  He's on your team.  

 

And we can add No True Scotsman to the ever growing list of fallacies being thrown around on this forum recently.

 

I see you are lost on this topic and need some help. I'll make you a quick cheat sheet to help you identify these folks. 

Title: You're probably a sh#t lib

- If you voted for Clinton, Biden, or Harris

- If you spend a majority of your time complaining about Trump instead of sh#t libs

- You refrained from voting for Trump in 2016,20, and 24 

- You wanted Trump to loose against Harris

- If you are voting for Democrat Governors because you claim the GOP nomination is MAGA

- You dislike Bitcoin

 

If you have 2 or more of these afflictions you're a sh#t lib.  Aloha has all 6 of them.  Sorry, I don't make the rules.  

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 8:15 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @goat

The "Never Trump" movement was a movement within the Republican party, specifically among old-guard establishment conservatives.

That’s not my recollection. I don’t think Trump opponents called themselves “never trumpers”. That name sprung from those who disagreed with them and it applies more broadly. 

Your recollection is flatly incorrect.

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 8:29 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @goat

@co-hoosier never trumpers are Republicans. They are people who think Trump represents something wholly incompatible with traditional conservative values. People like Aloha.

Just hold on a second, Goat.  Aloha is a Biden and Kate Hobbs voting sh#t lib.  He's on your team.  

 

And we can add No True Scotsman to the ever growing list of fallacies being thrown around on this forum recently.

 

I see you are lost on this topic and need some help. I'll make you a quick cheat sheet to help you identify these folks. 

Title: You're probably a sh#t lib

- If you voted for Clinton, Biden, or Harris

- If you spend a majority of your time complaining about Trump instead of sh#t libs

- You refrained from voting for Trump in 2016,20, and 24 

- You wanted Trump to loose against Harris

- If you are voting for Democrat Governors because you claim the GOP nomination is MAGA

- You dislike Bitcoin

 

If you have 2 or more of these afflictions you're a sh#t lib.  Aloha has all 6 of them.  Sorry, I don't make the rules.  

 

Whatever. Look, it's really no hair off my ass if it's important to you to deny Aloha's claimed identity as a Republican. Whatever. Have fun.

But it's a matter of historical record that the Never Trump movement was an intraparty revolt led by establishment conservatives within the GOP who felt Trump was wholly unfit as the potential leader of both their party and the country. Any claim to the contrary is not only patently false, it's also just plain silly, because there's zero to be gained by inventing these made-up origin stories.

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 8:34 pm
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@goat I wasn't following what you guys were arguing about.  Just please memorize the list.  Thank you.


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Posted : 08/27/2026 8:43 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @goat

@co-hoosier never trumpers are Republicans. They are people who think Trump represents something wholly incompatible with traditional conservative values. People like Aloha.

Just hold on a second, Goat.  Aloha is a Biden and Kate Hobbs voting sh#t lib.  He's on your team.  

 

And we can add No True Scotsman to the ever growing list of fallacies being thrown around on this forum recently.

 

I see you are lost on this topic and need some help. I'll make you a quick cheat sheet to help you identify these folks. 

Title: You're probably a sh#t lib

- If you voted for Clinton, Biden, or Harris

- If you spend a majority of your time complaining about Trump instead of sh#t libs

- You refrained from voting for Trump in 2016,20, and 24 

- You wanted Trump to loose against Harris

- If you are voting for Democrat Governors because you claim the GOP nomination is MAGA

- You dislike Bitcoin

 

If you have 2 or more of these afflictions you're a sh#t lib.  Aloha has all 6 of them.  Sorry, I don't make the rules.  

 

Whatever. Look, it's really no hair off my ass if it's important to you to deny Aloha's claimed identity as a Republican. Whatever. Have fun.

But it's a matter of historical record that the Never Trump movement was an intraparty revolt led by establishment conservatives within the GOP who felt Trump was wholly unfit as the potential leader of both their party and the country. Any claim to the contrary is not only patently false, it's also just plain silly, because there's zero to be gained by inventing these made-up origin stories.

 

 

And if I remember correctly it started with Redstate

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 8:48 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

@goat I wasn't following what you guys were arguing about.  Just please memorize the list.  Thank you.


No No No GIF

 


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Posted : 08/27/2026 8:58 pm
CO. Hoosier
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@goat 

According to Wiki you have it right.  But your description seems to be incomplete.  The never Trump movement is much deeper  than believing Trump is unfit.  It has become extremely intolerant and stubborn.  It has expanded that intolerance to anybody who agrees with Trump.  At the deepest levels, never Trumpism has caused anxiety and rage towards anybody who agrees with Trump.  It has broken families and friendships.  


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Topic starter Posted : 08/27/2026 9:01 pm
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