I think we can make a strong case showing that the white supremacy hoax took the life of Jason Arday.
While he was a deeply flawed individual, the white power structure at Cambridge was fully invested inn the white supremacy hoax and put Arday in a position no white guy would ever find himself in. They elevated Arday to a position he never should have been given, which led to his tragic downfall and exposure to moral outrage at a level he never should have experienced. This was All a result of Arday checking the right immutable characteristics boxes and none of the earned merit boxes.
When you give away the benefits of merit for free, you are not helping the recipient.
Somewhat off topic, is the notion that "all men are created equal" a hoax, or not ?
Arguing for the premise it is not a hoax, i would argue it is foundational political ideal with which 90% would agree.
Where we might disagree is whether we have achieved this political ideal.
Of course the self-evident truth that all men are created equal is not a hoax. Nobody can reasonably argue otherwise.
That said I think it is the most misinterpreted and misapplied phrase in all our founding documents. It describes governments relationship with the people- not people’s relationship with each other. The FF’s had a huge dispute about that at the time of the revolution, which dispute finally ended with the civil war and subsequent amendments. Since then, I think the government equal treatment has been pretty damn good and has gotten better through the years.
Of course the self-evident truth that all men are created equal is not a hoax. Nobody can reasonably argue otherwise.
That said I think it is the most misinterpreted and misapplied phrase in all our founding documents. It describes governments relationship with the people- not people’s relationship with each other. The FF’s had a huge dispute about that at the time of the revolution, which dispute finally ended with the civil war and subsequent amendments. Since then, I think the government equal treatment has been pretty damn good and has gotten better through the years.
Speaking of the Founding Fathers and "government equal treatment has been pretty damn good and has gotten better through the years"...Are we lucky or unlucky to have a government which takes so long to deal with such things as women's suffrage and equal rights.
For decades I've worried about topics such as the national debt and social security. Could throw in global warming if it weren't a hoax. 😉
...Are we lucky or unlucky to have a government which takes so long to deal with such things as women's suffrage and equal rights.
TJ addressed this issue in the Declaration of Independence:
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
The problem isn’t our structure, the problem is the elected officials who become more arrogant, stubborn, and intolerant by the week. We need to elect people who are willing to negotiate and compromise.
Of course the self-evident truth that all men are created equal is not a hoax. Nobody can reasonably argue otherwise
Oh I can.
All men are (1) not created by a supernatural being, and (2) not equal. I think the counter arguments generally silly.
Nor is it "self-evident" that under a legal system, men will be treated equal. It doesn't just happen--humans work really hard at trying to achieve that, and I've yet to see a society of any size or duration that achieved it. Hoot, is right: it's a great political aspiriation. We should continue to strive towards it. It's probably impossible to achieve (AI might change that).
We should continue to strive towards it.
Isn't that the stated purpose of the document?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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Of course not all men ( people) are created equal. I think TJ’s point has to do with when dealing with the government all people are equal. If we were talking about conditions of 80 years ago you have a point. But post Brown, Loving, the Civil rights laws, and more, we have it right. But that’s not to say racism doesn’t exist because it does. People still make choices and exercise discretion, that allows prejudices to exist. I don’t know if we can ever end that. But structurally, I think we reached the objective.
I think we can make a strong case showing that the white supremacy hoax took the life of Jason Arday.
If by this, you mean that people like you, who blather on about white supremacy being a hoax, took the life of Jason Arday, I agree, a case could be made.
Of course the self-evident truth that all men are created equal is not a hoax. Nobody can reasonably argue otherwise
Oh I can.
All men are (1) not created by a supernatural being, and (2) not equal. I think the counter arguments generally silly.
Nor is it "self-evident" that under a legal system, men will be treated equal. It doesn't just happen--humans work really hard at trying to achieve that, and I've yet to see a society of any size or duration that achieved it. Hoot, is right: it's a great political aspiriation. We should continue to strive towards it. It's probably impossible to achieve (AI might change that).
He also said government equal treatment has been pretty damn good since the reconstruction amendments. Don't let that one slide on by.
I have no idea what your point is. My point is that the concept of “white supremacy” is a construct used to justify all kinds of “remedial” actions that are in essence efforts at control. Jason Arby was a victim of whites using the supremacy thing to put in a position where he had no business being and it cost him everything.
I have no idea what your point is. My point is that the concept of “white supremacy” is a construct used to justify all kinds of “remedial” actions that are in essence efforts at control. Jason Arby was a victim of whites using the supremacy thing to put in a position where he had no business being and it cost him everything.
No, he wasn't. He was a victim of fraud - his own fraud. He was given the job because on paper he was eminently qualified for the job. Filling top university positions with blacks for the sake of it? That's not something that the UK does. Cambridge and Oxford are blindingly white. Of course, once they hire him, they are going to play up his personal history. Look! We hired this guy who grew up poor and black and non-verbal and blah blah blah. They don't get many chances to play that card, so they are going to play it. But they hired him because his resume said he should be hired. The problem was he cheated his resume.
And he's a victim of people like you, who can't see that. Can't see that he's just some schmuck who lied his way into a good job. You see that he's black, and you immediately jump to "he was hired because of DEI" and that became a huge thing that overwhelmed him, and so he offed himself.
The only thing white supremacy has to do with his death is that people who would start threads about how white supremacy is a hoax couldn't stop lambasting the poor jackass over the fact that he was black until he couldn't take it anymore.
Arby is a victim of people like me? WTF are you talking about? My argument that the concept of “white supremacy” is now shown to be a hoax is a condemnation of white people. But I’m not a victim of that hoax. Black people are. They are deprived of important human and individual experiences.
Arby is a victim of people like me? WTF are you talking about? My argument that the concept of “white supremacy” is now shown to be a hoax is a condemnation of white people. But I’m not a victim of that hoax. Black people are. They are deprived of important human and individual experiences.
It's Arday. Not Arby. And you said a lot more than that. You said Arday was elevated to his position by the "white power structure" at Cambridge because he was black. That's utter nonsense. You continue to scream DEI, but nothing about this story is DEI. He was hired because of his CV. What can you possibly say that is evidence that he was a DEI hire, other than "Well, he's black?" Nothing. That's the only reason you go there. The only reason you can bring yourself to claim that he was put in a position he never should have been in was because the white folks in charge wanted to hire a black guy, and your only evidence is that he's a black guy.
Did you read his CV? Did you sit in on his interviews? Did you examine his previous work? Do you have any idea on what basis they hired him? At all? No, you do not. You only know that 1) they hired him and 2) he's black, so you conclude they hired him because he's black.
And it's our side perpetuating the hoax. Right.


