Arby is a victim of people like me? WTF are you talking about? My argument that the concept of “white supremacy” is now shown to be a hoax is a condemnation of white people. But I’m not a victim of that hoax. Black people are. They are deprived of important human and individual experiences.
It's Arday. Not Arby. And you said a lot more than that. You said Arday was elevated to his position by the "white power structure" at Cambridge because he was black. That's utter nonsense. You continue to scream DEI, but nothing about this story is DEI. He was hired because of his CV. What can you possibly say that is evidence that he was a DEI hire, other than "Well, he's black?" Nothing. That's the only reason you go there. The only reason you can bring yourself to claim that he was put in a position he never should have been in was because the white folks in charge wanted to hire a black guy, and your only evidence is that he's a black guy.
Did you read his CV? Did you sit in on his interviews? Did you examine his previous work? Do you have any idea on what basis they hired him? At all? No, you do not. You only know that 1) they hired him and 2) he's black, so you conclude they hired him because he's black.
And it's our side perpetuating the hoax. Right.
Leftism killed Arday. He wasn’t vetted because his demographic was in demand. Some of the power structure believed Jussie Smollete also. Being black had its advantages in both cases.
Leftism killed Arday. He wasn’t vetted because his demographic was in demand. Some of the power structure believed Jussie Smollete also. Being black had its advantages in both cases.
So the answer to all of my questions was in fact no. No, you don't know any of that. You have zero information. Zero evidence.
And yet you persist in your assumption.
I still think the difference in treatment exists for the rich vs poor; the famous vs the unknown. I don’t know how you solve the former in a system where lawyers are paid by their clients.Of course not all men ( people) are created equal. I think TJ’s point has to do with when dealing with the government all people are equal. If we were talking about conditions of 80 years ago you have a point. But post Brown, Loving, the Civil rights laws, and more, we have it right. But that’s not to say racism doesn’t exist because it does. People still make choices and exercise discretion, that allows prejudices to exist. I don’t know if we can ever end that. But structurally, I think we reached the objective.
...Are we lucky or unlucky to have a government which takes so long to deal with such things as women's suffrage and equal rights.
TJ addressed this issue in the Declaration of Independence:
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
The problem isn’t our structure, the problem is the elected officials who become more arrogant, stubborn, and intolerant by the week. We need to elect people who are willing to negotiate and compromise.
CoH, completely agree with you when you state...
We need to elect people who are willing to negotiate and compromise.
My fear is that we are so divided as a country that electing people willing to negotiate and compromise just isn't going to happen.
My fear is that we are so divided as a country that electing people willing to negotiate and compromise just isn't going to happen.
We used to be better at this and not that long ago.
I still think the difference in treatment exists for the rich vs poor; the famous vs the unknown. I don’t know how you solve the former in a system where lawyers are paid by their clients.
What exactly needs to be solved? The equality you seem to imply is not achievable. There will always be people who do more than others with equal resources. That said, I think the inequality in education is an area that must be addressed. HS graduates who can’t read or can’t do simple math will likely never have a satisfying life.
As I said in the opening post, I think the concept of white supremacy is a construct used by liberals to advance an agenda. The law has gone as far as it could to address race discrimination and prejudice, now it’s up to individuals to finish the job. For different reasons, including political and accumulation of influence and power, liberals now use white supremacy to justify their positions. I think white supremacy these days is way overstated, so much so that it is a hoax.
As I also have repeatedly said, we must address public education. Blacks really are getting the short end of the stick there. Perversely, Democrats make it worse.
As I said in the opening post, I think the concept of white supremacy is a construct used by liberals to advance an agenda. The law has gone as far as it could to address race discrimination and prejudice, now it’s up to individuals to finish the job. For different reasons, including political and accumulation of influence and power, liberals now use white supremacy to justify their positions. I think white supremacy these days is way overstated, so much so that it is a hoax.
As I also have repeatedly said, we must address public education. Blacks really are getting the short end of the stick there. Perversely, Democrats make it worse.
IMO, White Supremacy has never been as important as Investor/Ownership Supremacy which shouldn't come as a surprise given we are a capitalist country whereby ownership is a big determinizing factor in the accumulation of wealth and income.
Today, on a per capita basis, Whites have almost twice the income as Blacks with the gap being even wider when it comes to household wealth.
I agree that that type of equality is probably unachievable.I still think the difference in treatment exists for the rich vs poor; the famous vs the unknown. I don’t know how you solve the former in a system where lawyers are paid by their clients.
What exactly needs to be solved? The equality you seem to imply is not achievable. There will always be people who do more than others with equal resources. That said, I think the inequality in education is an area that must be addressed. HS graduates who can’t read or can’t do simple math will likely never have a satisfying life.
That doesn’t mean that inequality doesn’t exist, though. We both agree it does.
As I said in the opening post, I think the concept of white supremacy is a construct used by liberals to advance an agenda. The law has gone as far as it could to address race discrimination and prejudice, now it’s up to individuals to finish the job. For different reasons, including political and accumulation of influence and power, liberals now use white supremacy to justify their positions. I think white supremacy these days is way overstated, so much so that it is a hoax.
As I also have repeatedly said, we must address public education. Blacks really are getting the short end of the stick there. Perversely, Democrats make it worse.
And while I think your thread starter was ludicrous, I wasn't engaging you on it. It was only your ridiculous take on Jason Arday that I was commenting on.
IMO, White Supremacy has never been as important as Investor/Ownership Supremacy which shouldn't come as a surprise given we are a capitalist country whereby ownership is a big determinizing factor in the accumulation of wealth and income.
Today, on a per capita basis, Whites have almost twice the income as Blacks with the gap being even wider when it comes to household wealth.
Pretty much agree. When our public educational system excludes millions of POC’s, especially males, from the tools necessary to flourish, nobody should be surprised at this kind on inequality.
@goat Smerconish talked a bit about this and compared it to the author, a white guy, of "A Million Little Pieces," a huge best seller promoted by Oprah. It was purported to be a truthful tell all about his life as an addict, alcoholic and criminal. Turns out it to be all lies and it was exposed by The Smoking Gun.
A Million Little Lies | The Smoking Gun
Smerconish believes the book was a huge hit because people WANTED it to be true. And believed Arday was hired because those who hired him WANTED his backstory and CV to be true as well. I think that is probably accurate. We see this happen over and over today. People believe things because they sincerely want those things to be true. We see it on this board constantly.
@goat Smerconish talked a bit about this and compared it to the author, a white guy, of "A Million Little Pieces," a huge best seller promoted by Oprah. It was purported to be a truthful tell all about his life as an addict, alcoholic and criminal. Turns out it to be all lies and it was exposed by The Smoking Gun.
A Million Little Lies | The Smoking Gun
Smerconish believes the book was a huge hit because people WANTED it to be true. And believed Arday was hired because those who hired him WANTED his backstory and CV to be true as well. I think that is probably accurate. We see this happen over and over today. People believe things because they sincerely want those things to be true. We see it on this board constantly.
Of course. People do this all the time. And to be fair, there were some people questioning Arday at the beginning. Not many. But a few. Mostly because they found his CV to be incredibly unrealistic for his age. And in hindsight, it definitely seems Cambridge didn't do their due diligence. But if you go look at all the people saying it should have been obvious, and it was a clear DEI hire, and all that stuff...all those articles are from the past month. It's all hindsight. And I'd argue it's another example of exactly what you're talking about. These folks are yelling that it was a huge DEI disaster because they want it to be a huge DEI disaster. That furthers their narrative.
You don't see this as a DEI issue? Really?@goat Smerconish talked a bit about this and compared it to the author, a white guy, of "A Million Little Pieces," a huge best seller promoted by Oprah. It was purported to be a truthful tell all about his life as an addict, alcoholic and criminal. Turns out it to be all lies and it was exposed by The Smoking Gun.
A Million Little Lies | The Smoking Gun
Smerconish believes the book was a huge hit because people WANTED it to be true. And believed Arday was hired because those who hired him WANTED his backstory and CV to be true as well. I think that is probably accurate. We see this happen over and over today. People believe things because they sincerely want those things to be true. We see it on this board constantly.
Of course. People do this all the time. And to be fair, there were some people questioning Arday at the beginning. Not many. But a few. Mostly because they found his CV to be incredibly unrealistic for his age. And in hindsight, it definitely seems Cambridge didn't do their due diligence. But if you go look at all the people saying it should have been obvious, and it was a clear DEI hire, and all that stuff...all those articles are from the past month. It's all hindsight. And I'd argue it's another example of exactly what you're talking about. These folks are yelling that it was a huge DEI disaster because they want it to be a huge DEI disaster. That furthers their narrative.