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Ukraine is supplying the US with $2000 interceptor drone expertise. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_h9e7HXhY

https://thedefensepost.com/2026/03/18/ukraine-gulf-drone-experts/amp/

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-sending-drone-team-help-protect-us-bases-jordan-washingtons-request-zelenskyy-says

Evidently, Ukraine has been using them for about four years against Iranian built drones the Russians have been using.

Pity DJ Trump didn’t ask for Ukraine help before starting the Iran war as part of Trump’s thorough war prep. Could have saved a ton of money (and stockpile) not using our $4M missiles.

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Also raises an interesting political question. We all “know” Dems favor Big Gov with all its inefficiencies and Pubs favor private manufacturing with its incredible efficiencies. 

Why does neither party talk about  drastically reducing spending by using Ukrainian (and similar) entrepreneurs? Elon Musk also figured out cheap space travel. Seems like both Dems and Pubs are taking us for a ride  

 

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 4:37 pm
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Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @big-ryan

This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News

Define “anytime soon”…

 

 

You’re talking to a guy who declared a war in day 17 with no ground forces a “quagmire”. Don’t ask serious questions of unserious people. 

 

 

https://www.military.com/daily-news/headlines/2026/03/20/us-send-another-2500-marines-ground-option-emerges-iran-war.html

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 4:50 pm
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Posted by: @boogie

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @big-ryan

This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News

Define “anytime soon”…

 

 

You’re talking to a guy who declared a war in day 17 with no ground forces a “quagmire”. Don’t ask serious questions of unserious people. 

 

 

https://www.military.com/daily-news/headlines/2026/03/20/us-send-another-2500-marines-ground-option-emerges-iran-war.html

 

Are you trying to say something? 

 

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 4:59 pm
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Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @boogie

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @big-ryan

This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News

Define “anytime soon”…

 

 

You’re talking to a guy who declared a war in day 17 with no ground forces a “quagmire”. Don’t ask serious questions of unserious people. 

 

 

https://www.military.com/daily-news/headlines/2026/03/20/us-send-another-2500-marines-ground-option-emerges-iran-war.html

 

Are you trying to say something? 

 

 

 

We're gonna have troops on the ground. 

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 5:05 pm
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Posted by: @boogie

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @boogie

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @big-ryan

This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News

Define “anytime soon”…

 

 

You’re talking to a guy who declared a war in day 17 with no ground forces a “quagmire”. Don’t ask serious questions of unserious people. 

 

 

https://www.military.com/daily-news/headlines/2026/03/20/us-send-another-2500-marines-ground-option-emerges-iran-war.html

 

Are you trying to say something? 

 

 

 

We're gonna have troops on the ground. 

 

…unless our DJ expects them to walk on water… known to happen over there…

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 5:06 pm
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Posted by: @boogie

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @boogie

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @big-ryan

This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News

Define “anytime soon”…

 

 

You’re talking to a guy who declared a war in day 17 with no ground forces a “quagmire”. Don’t ask serious questions of unserious people. 

 

 

https://www.military.com/daily-news/headlines/2026/03/20/us-send-another-2500-marines-ground-option-emerges-iran-war.html

 

Are you trying to say something? 

 

 

 

We're gonna have troops on the ground. 

 

 

That’s a possibility. Would that automatically qualify it as a quagmire in your view? 

That would be pretty stupid. 

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 5:08 pm
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Figuratively, quagmire refers to a complex, hazardous, or sticky situation that is hard to escape, such as a "financial quagmire" or a "political quagmire".”

By that definition we could already be in a quagmire, depending on how long the war lasts, how easily Trump can extricate our military, how long Hormuz stays closed, how much Iran destroys neighboring oil production facilities, and any other complications. Time will tell. 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 6:01 pm
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Figuratively, quagmire refers to a complex, hazardous, or sticky situation that is hard to escape, such as a "financial quagmire" or a "political quagmire".”

By that definition we could already be in a quagmire, depending on how long the war lasts, how easily Trump can extricate our military, how long Hormuz stays closed, how much Iran destroys neighboring oil production facilities, and any other complications. Time will tell. 

The effectiveness, outcome, or timeframe of the operation will have 0 impact on your assessment of the effectiveness, outcome, or timeframe of the operation.

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 6:06 pm
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Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @hhlurker

Figuratively, quagmire refers to a complex, hazardous, or sticky situation that is hard to escape, such as a "financial quagmire" or a "political quagmire".”

By that definition we could already be in a quagmire, depending on how long the war lasts, how easily Trump can extricate our military, how long Hormuz stays closed, how much Iran destroys neighboring oil production facilities, and any other complications. Time will tell. 

The effectiveness, outcome, or timeframe of the operation will have 0 impact on your assessment of the effectiveness, outcome, or timeframe of the operation.

 

Witty but not true. The effectiveness, outcome, or timeframe have a great deal to do with whether or not it could be considered a quagmire.

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 6:15 pm
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/father-servicemember-killed-iran-war-never-told-hegseth-finish-the-job-rcna264297?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwdGRjcAQpefFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAwzNTA2ODU1MzE3MjgAAR5yYILoI8THoiujEwDMuA9YPFo5Wt8mr6CKGc-tglxnbDGvelJvzjHE34P4lQ_aem_okoybLJKgSY4Cdr7iyVLrA&_branch_match_id=1500215229760609965&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAAwXB3U6DMBgA0LfxjsGETGOyGOxQqbSy7IfBDWm7Uipbix9L2nHhs3tOf7uN00sYGi6MdNOCjePios0QahUr%2BDjJbMlfOy4u%2BrzOXXPqI65o31QRIvssFTGOatf04vOtY9WWkPng6I9a0j3xdM6TNM2kuCK0QmXmVzlYT9K5UGW18ez7CB3%2BDZTuTQk1Fs2j8xCPO%2F6ceE%2BDTYAPLZPX1g72zgv8pXZ1gs7wpO%2FHAtKHP5CdBNBGtRysmySs35mQ3NrhH3iX0y7UAAAA

 

What a shit headline and pathetic attempt at a gotcha. Completely buries the lede. I doubt you read the article or you wouldn’t have tried to share it as a gotcha either. 

 

 Simmons came away from Dover with a better impression of the war’s architects than he had when he arrived. Trump teared up and hugged him, evincing warmth and compassion at odds with the president’s public persona, Simmons said. He also credited Trump for looking him “straight in the eye.”

“He extended his condolences father to father and conveyed how difficult it is to make decisions to put the children of other parents in peril,” Simmons said.

As for Hegseth, “When I talked to him, I got the impression that he was torn because he seemed to be a very compassionate man, faced with difficult decisions as it pertains to war,” Simmons said.

“I also let him know that Tyler was my only son. And you could see the emotion on his face. And I think those kinds of things you can’t fake,” he continued.

“I was pleasantly surprised because the perception is they [Trump and Hegseth] don’t care, they’re going to do what they want to do,” he said. “I got to see a different side of them up close and personal.”

……….

Simmons recalled something his son had told him before volunteering for the mission that ended his life.

“He said, ‘Dad, I can’t give you any details, but if civilians knew what we knew, a lot of the criticism [of the war] would cease,” he said

 

 

 

You really can't despise the MSM enough. 

 

why can't @mrhighlife eat crow like I just did with Shakespeare?

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 6:15 pm
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Posted : 03/20/2026 7:44 pm
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Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @big-ryan

This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News

Define “anytime soon”…

 

 

You’re talking to a guy who declared a war in day 17 with no ground forces a “quagmire”. Don’t ask serious questions of unserious people. 

 

LOL.  I used the word as a counter to Trump's ridiculous description of the war as an "excursion."  In any event, it appears I don't have a monopoly on the word. The Cato Institute opined, before the war even began, that Trump was risking a quagmire. Many others have described it as a quagmire. I'm hardly going out on a limb.  Are you sure you know what the word means? 

Donald Trump Risks a Quagmire in Iran | Cato Institute

Opinion | How Trump Should Extricate Himself From His Iran Quagmire - The New York Times

Foster: Trump’s Iran war turning into quagmire | Longview News-Journal

Trump's 'quagmire' nightmare: How US President could lose the Iran war even if his forces win every battle | The Standard

Trump Fans Iran Quagmire Fears With Debate on Ground Troops - Bloomberg

 

 

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 7:58 pm
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Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @big-ryan

This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News

Define “anytime soon”…

 

 

You’re talking to a guy who declared a war in day 17 with no ground forces a “quagmire”. Don’t ask serious questions of unserious people. 

 

LOL.  I used the word as a counter to Trump's ridiculous description of the war as an "excursion."  In any event, it appears I don't have a monopoly on the word. The Cato Institute opined, before the war even began, that Trump was risking a quagmire. Many others have described it as a quagmire. I'm hardly going out on a limb.  Are you sure you know what the word means? 

Donald Trump Risks a Quagmire in Iran | Cato Institute

Opinion | How Trump Should Extricate Himself From His Iran Quagmire - The New York Times

Foster: Trump’s Iran war turning into quagmire | Longview News-Journal

Trump's 'quagmire' nightmare: How US President could lose the Iran war even if his forces win every battle | The Standard

Trump Fans Iran Quagmire Fears With Debate on Ground Troops - Bloomberg

 

 

 

 

Are you saying the Libertarians are anti-war? Someone should pay you for these insights. 

The possibility of a quagmire exists, sure. That’s the risk of going to war. 

But only special kind of morons, like you, go to the extent of labeling it one already. 

 


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Everytime Trump meets with Bibi he goes psychopath. I am against the war and don't the believe all the propaganda about Iran would sending missiles at US in 6 months but yes they are leaders of the terrorist world and don't care what happens to them.  I think once finished Trump should turn on and take out bibi and the Likud party and go after the Zionist in the US but how much have they bribed him and Kushner with donations.   Get rid of all the big problems in the Middle east and Israel is certainly at the top. 

Could you explain what taking out Bibi and the Likud party and go after the Zionist in the US means?  By what means are you suggesting?

Im no fan of Bibi and the Likud party but I am a Zionist.  

This has a bit of a “Final Solution” tone, so please explain what you mean and how far you’d like Trump to go.

 


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