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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/father-servicemember-killed-iran-war-never-told-hegseth-finish-the-job-rcna264297?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwdGRjcAQpefFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAwzNTA2ODU1MzE3MjgAAR5yYILoI8THoiujEwDMuA9YPFo5Wt8mr6CKGc-tglxnbDGvelJvzjHE34P4lQ_aem_okoybLJKgSY4Cdr7iyVLrA&_branch_match_id=1500215229760609965&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAAwXB3U6DMBgA0LfxjsGETGOyGOxQqbSy7IfBDWm7Uipbix9L2nHhs3tOf7uN00sYGi6MdNOCjePios0QahUr%2BDjJbMlfOy4u%2BrzOXXPqI65o31QRIvssFTGOatf04vOtY9WWkPng6I9a0j3xdM6TNM2kuCK0QmXmVzlYT9K5UGW18ez7CB3%2BDZTuTQk1Fs2j8xCPO%2F6ceE%2BDTYAPLZPX1g72zgv8pXZ1gs7wpO%2FHAtKHP5CdBNBGtRysmySs35mQ3NrhH3iX0y7UAAAA

 

What a shit headline and pathetic attempt at a gotcha. Completely buries the lede. I doubt you read the article or you wouldn’t have tried to share it as a gotcha either. 

 

 Simmons came away from Dover with a better impression of the war’s architects than he had when he arrived. Trump teared up and hugged him, evincing warmth and compassion at odds with the president’s public persona, Simmons said. He also credited Trump for looking him “straight in the eye.”

“He extended his condolences father to father and conveyed how difficult it is to make decisions to put the children of other parents in peril,” Simmons said.

As for Hegseth, “When I talked to him, I got the impression that he was torn because he seemed to be a very compassionate man, faced with difficult decisions as it pertains to war,” Simmons said.

“I also let him know that Tyler was my only son. And you could see the emotion on his face. And I think those kinds of things you can’t fake,” he continued.

“I was pleasantly surprised because the perception is they [Trump and Hegseth] don’t care, they’re going to do what they want to do,” he said. “I got to see a different side of them up close and personal.”

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Simmons recalled something his son had told him before volunteering for the mission that ended his life.

“He said, ‘Dad, I can’t give you any details, but if civilians knew what we knew, a lot of the criticism [of the war] would cease,” he said

 

 

 

You really can't despise the MSM enough. 

 

 

The MSM are the greatest allies of the Mullahs. They can’t win on the ground but they can defeat us with willing allies in key areas. It’s an information war that they will try to win. It’s been this way since Vietnam. 

 

It is amazing though watching how effective the propaganda is.  Compare how they are treated the an Ukraine War and the Iran War and people's reactions to it.   

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 9:12 am
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Iran War and people's reactions to it.   

We had a president present a case as to why we should go to war with Iran. He took the case to the UN. It turned out to be wrong, but he took the right steps 

To date there has been NO evidence provided as to why we needed this war at this time. Rumors Israel was going to attack and Iran would hit us. Rumors they were still trying to build a bomb. No attempt to show what Intel they had. 

Look at Pars, Trump said we had no idea Israel was going to attack. Not what Israel says. We cannot present a clear and unified message on anything. So the best guess Trump thought it would make him look tough.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/19/world/middleeast/israel-iran-south-pars-gas-field-trump.html


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Posted : 03/20/2026 10:37 am
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@big-ryan 

Legend in his own mind has never been more appropriate than for Trump.

I’m not a gynecologist but you seem to be a bit dry. 

 


If men were any more stupid, we would have breed for the extinction of women. Proof yet again that WE are the best thing they have going for them.

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Posted : 03/20/2026 11:41 am
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Iran War and people's reactions to it.   

We had a president present a case as to why we should go to war with Iran. He took the case to the UN. It turned out to be wrong, but he took the right steps 

To date there has been NO evidence provided as to why we needed this war at this time. Rumors Israel was going to attack and Iran would hit us. Rumors they were still trying to build a bomb. No attempt to show what Intel they had. 

Look at Pars, Trump said we had no idea Israel was going to attack. Not what Israel says. We cannot present a clear and unified message on anything. So the best guess Trump thought it would make him look tough.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/19/world/middleeast/israel-iran-south-pars-gas-field-trump.html

 

Where are you getting that Israel didn’t act unilaterally with Pars? Bibi confirmed it. 

Israel and the U.S. are aligned but have different objectives. You’re a fan of WW2 analogies, it’s all you do. Did Russia and the U.S. have the exact same objectives in WW2?

If you’ve watched the DoD pressers, Hegseth has been pretty clear.

- Missile launchers

- Navy

- Industrial Base

- Nuclear program

He’s reiterated that at the last three I’ve seen. 

Why people are choosing to willfully ignore what seem to be pretty clear objectives is baffling to me. Probably because they’re being dishonest. 

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 12:27 pm
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

Look at Pars, Trump said we had no idea Israel was going to attack. Not what Israel says. We cannot present a clear and unified message on anything.

Yes.  Trump claimed the U.S. knew nothing about the attack in advance. Three Israeli officials, however, told The New York Times the strike was coordinated with the Trump administration in advance.

Trump and his team are trying hard to sell this war to the American people but the messy, mixed messaging isn't helping.  Polling suggests that buy-ins are mostly limited to MAGA and American Jews

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 12:57 pm
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Posted by: @carramrod

Where are you getting that Israel didn’t act unilaterally with Pars? Bibi confirmed it. 

I did not say act unilaterally. That does not answer if we "knew" of the attack. The NYT article says Israeli officials said the US "knew".

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 2:37 pm
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@hhlurker Meant Likud party not Massoud. Fixed in my original post.


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Posted : 03/20/2026 2:45 pm
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This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News


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Posted : 03/20/2026 3:00 pm
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Posted by: @big-ryan

This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News

Define “anytime soon”…

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 3:14 pm
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Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @big-ryan

This war is not ending anytime soon.  

So much for "America First!" and no new wars.  Lying POS. 

Iran war live updates: US deploys thousands more to the Middle East as Iran ups threats | AP News

Define “anytime soon”…

 

 

You’re talking to a guy who declared a war in day 17 with no ground forces a “quagmire”. Don’t ask serious questions of unserious people. 

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 3:16 pm
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Posted : 03/20/2026 3:57 pm
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Posted : 03/20/2026 4:14 pm
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The Army loves the Warthogs for Close Air Support (CAS). It's one of the reasons I say the Air Force should be rolled back into the Army. I'm only partially joking about that. 

 


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Posted : 03/20/2026 4:20 pm
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The Army loves the Warthogs. It's one of the reasons I say the Air Force should be rolled back into the Army. I'm only partially joking about that. 

From a bang for the buck perspective, it's quite possibly the most impressive weapons platform we've produced in the last 100 years. It's such a fucking workhorse and it's usefulness/role in combat is only limited by a lack of imagination. 


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