@twenty compared to Bush of course Trump is a great President. You're comparing consenting adults freely choosing to gamble on sh#t coins to Bush costing U.S. citizens trillions of dollars and thousands of lives. You're starting to make Butch blush. Just stop, it's embarrassing, buddy.
@bradstevens he has TDS and it causes people stop thinking critically (or at all). If he or anyone makes the argument that Clinton and Obama were good Presidents and miles ahead of Bush, Biden, and Trump, that's a reasonable position. However, they get emotionally and say silly stuff instead.
By the way, I think this Iran War is probably the worst policy decision Trump has made (yes, even worse than tariffs) and yet, it will probably be nowhere near as disastrous as Bush's decision to invade and nation build in Iraq.
So, if Iran gains Hormuz you still think Iraq was worse?
Iraq was a mistake but through a hell of a lot, the end result is totally tolerable. It isn't free, but far more free than Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran. The end result is so much better than say Vietnam. But if Iran gains control of Hormuz I will put it way down the failure list (Vietnam still being the worst).
@snarlcakes is it worth differentiating between graft that is solely self-enrichment, like shitcoins or Saudi investments in your PE fund. And graft that uses your tax dollars like Learing centers and USAID? One makes me much more irate than the other.
I suppose the crux is whether those self-enrichment schemes are also selling influence.
@bradstevens Iraq is a very messy and costly success story. Something that is better now by far than 20 years ago. And will be even better 20 years from now. Trump will leave no such legacy. Don't be so short sighted.
@snarlcakes Bush's restraint to not nuke everything after 9/11 was brilliant. His work to build an international coalition was brilliant. His decision to attack the wrong country was bad.
I certainly don't think Bush was a terrible president. I don't think he saw 9/11 as a reason to settle old scores. I think he believed Iraq having nukes was a critical issue and he really believed they were doing all the things he said they were doing, confirmation bias.
But damn, he built that coalition for Iraq. Absolutely brilliant foreign policy.
@snarlcakes Bush's restraint to not nuke everything after 9/11 was brilliant. His work to build an international coalition was brilliant. His decision to attack the wrong country was bad.
I certainly don't think Bush was a terrible president. I don't think he saw 9/11 as a reason to settle old scores. I think he believed Iraq having nukes was a critical issue and he really believed they were doing all the things he said they were doing, confirmation bias.
But damn, he built that coalition for Iraq. Absolutely brilliant foreign policy.
We're going to disagree on this one. I don't consider conning citizens out of trillions dollars as brilliant foreign policy.
@snarlcakes Trump spent more money just in bullshit Covid response than the entire Iraq war cost. And for what? To just ignite a terrible inflation cycle we still can't break. At least Iraq has created long term stratgeic benefits and leverage for the US in a geopolitically vital area.
@snarlcakes is it worth differentiating between graft that is solely self-enrichment, like shitcoins or Saudi investments in your PE fund. And graft that uses your tax dollars like Learing centers and USAID? One makes me much more irate than the other.
I suppose the crux is whether those self-enrichment schemes are also selling influence.
I agree. The biggest issue with the sh#t coin is it's an easy pay to play scheme. But that sh#t happens already and can only be stopped through smaller governments.
Biden was legally barred from releasing files until the appeals of Trump's 2nd favorite child rapist, Maxwell, were exhausted.
link the court order or statute evidencing same. not whatever young turks the view woke cult bs you get your news from or whatever goofy piss pits nerd at the college told you. court order or statute.
@twenty the timing of trump's covid funding was understandable. and it was to ameliorate a horrific, unknown circumstance. it's forgivable. biden's covid spending was just welfare in furhterance of welfare expansion under the guise of covid. not that trump isn't a completely dogshit president. he is. and he proves it day after day.
@bar-down I'll never forgive the Trump admin 1.0 for the ridiculous PPP. The biggest fraud in world history. It'll never be topped. Something like $70B in straight fraud. $800B spent and even if not straight fraud, mostly bullshit to companies that were making more money than ever
@squeakyclean at the time that trump was in office and the uncertainty attendant to covid and where we were going i don't fault trump at all for issuing out monies. my fault with trump is that he botched the actual handing of the pandemic. allowing fauci a microphone every day was a monumental disaster. fauci should have been a million miles away from ever getting to speak to the public. but trump was a political neophyte and didn't know any better. the only good to come out of covid was skepticism for government and highlighting just how grossly negligent our agencies like cdc etc. were at the time. nyt did a wonderful hit piece on the cdc