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Shooter
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Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Being Netanyahu's puppet when starting the war doesn't mean he didn't wise up after the fact.

Just FYI, I was taught here that saying that someone is a "puppet" of a Jewish leader is a bigoted statement.  Many thanks to Goat for educating me on this after I used that terminology.

Just say that Trump was sympathetic to the long-standing plans of Netanyahu to attack Iran and that he differed from past presidents in lacking the common sense to say no to Bibi. 

 


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 07/08/2026 2:48 pm
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Posted by: @shooter

Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Being Netanyahu's puppet when starting the war doesn't mean he didn't wise up after the fact.

Just FYI, I was taught here that saying that someone is a "puppet" of a Jewish leader is a bigoted statement.  Many thanks to Goat for educating me on this after I used that terminology.

Just say that Trump was sympathetic to the long-standing plans of Netanyahu to attack Iran and that he differed from past presidents in lacking the common sense to say no to Bibi. 

 

I was just using the term brad used but i recall that now that you mention it.

 


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Posted : 07/08/2026 3:52 pm
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Posted by: @shooter

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Trump released files, Biden didn't.

You seem to find it necessary to be reminded of "forgotten" facts on a daily basis.  Biden was legally barred from releasing files until the appeals of Trump's 2nd favorite child rapist, Maxwell, were exhausted. That happened at the very end of the Biden administration. It was Trump's crusade to "get the facts out" about some imaginary cabal of pedophile Dems, but he clammed up when he realized that it was a very real cabal of well-heeled pubs, INCLUDING HIM.

 

It was all sh#t libs, which is why Biden never released it.  Clinton, Gates, and that fat f#ck with glasses CEO who looks like a creep.  Look in the mirror. 

 


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Posted : 07/08/2026 3:53 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Trump has been the best President since Reagan.

That's a joke, right? 

Of course not.  He's better than Obama, Bush, and Biden. You could make an argument that Clinton was better, but he was helped by a GOP Congress that kept him in check.

 


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Posted : 07/08/2026 3:56 pm
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https://m.youtube.com/shorts/rw3gGfTimDM?ra=m


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Posted : 07/09/2026 9:35 am
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@snarlcakes 

Trump is helped by a GOP Congress that pays his check.


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Posted : 07/09/2026 9:37 am
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Trump has been the best President since Reagan.

That's a joke, right? 

Of course not.  He's better than Obama, Bush, and Biden. You could make an argument that Clinton was better, but he was helped by a GOP Congress that kept him in check.

 

 

Biden and Trump are about equally terrible, in much different ways, but very equal in gutter level history. 

Obama and Bush were both exponentially better than either of those pathetic geriatrics.

Clinton was better than any of them. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/09/2026 11:04 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Trump has been the best President since Reagan.

That's a joke, right? 

Of course not.  He's better than Obama, Bush, and Biden. You could make an argument that Clinton was better, but he was helped by a GOP Congress that kept him in check.

 

 

Biden and Trump are about equally terrible, in much different ways, but very equal in gutter level history. 

Obama and Bush were both exponentially better than either of those pathetic geriatrics.

Clinton was better than any of them. 

 

That's something shooter would say.  

When Bush left office he took a GOP majority and handed Democrats a supermajority for the first time since who knows.  I don't care to google it.  Obama took his supermajority and quickly lost it after enacting Obamacare, which allowed Trump to win eventually and flipped Congress back to the GOP. Biden was such a disaster it only took him 4 years to f#ck it all up.  And allow Trump to win the popular vote for the first time in a couple decades and Congress.   If the GOP gets trounced in 26 and 28, you'll have argument that Trump deserves to be in the bottom dwellers.  Until then it's a really silly thing to say.

 


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Posted : 07/09/2026 11:47 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @twenty

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Trump has been the best President since Reagan.

That's a joke, right? 

Of course not.  He's better than Obama, Bush, and Biden. You could make an argument that Clinton was better, but he was helped by a GOP Congress that kept him in check.

 

 

Biden and Trump are about equally terrible, in much different ways, but very equal in gutter level history. 

Obama and Bush were both exponentially better than either of those pathetic geriatrics.

Clinton was better than any of them. 

 

That's something shooter would say.  

When Bush left office he took a GOP majority and handed Democrats a supermajority for the first time since who knows.  I don't care to google it.  Obama took his supermajority and quickly lost it after enacting Obamacare, which allowed Trump to win eventually and flipped Congress back to the GOP. Biden was such a disaster it only took him 4 years to f#ck it all up.  And allow Trump to win the popular vote for the first time in a couple decades and Congress.   If the GOP gets trounced in 26 and 28, you'll have argument that Trump deserves to be in the bottom dwellers.  Until then it's a really silly thing to say.

 

 

Only little brains care about the infantile moods of the public. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/10/2026 2:58 am
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Posted by: @twenty

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @twenty

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Trump has been the best President since Reagan.

That's a joke, right? 

Of course not.  He's better than Obama, Bush, and Biden. You could make an argument that Clinton was better, but he was helped by a GOP Congress that kept him in check.

 

 

Biden and Trump are about equally terrible, in much different ways, but very equal in gutter level history. 

Obama and Bush were both exponentially better than either of those pathetic geriatrics.

Clinton was better than any of them. 

 

That's something shooter would say.  

When Bush left office he took a GOP majority and handed Democrats a supermajority for the first time since who knows.  I don't care to google it.  Obama took his supermajority and quickly lost it after enacting Obamacare, which allowed Trump to win eventually and flipped Congress back to the GOP. Biden was such a disaster it only took him 4 years to f#ck it all up.  And allow Trump to win the popular vote for the first time in a couple decades and Congress.   If the GOP gets trounced in 26 and 28, you'll have argument that Trump deserves to be in the bottom dwellers.  Until then it's a really silly thing to say.

 

 

Only little brains care about the infantile moods of the public. 

 

I'm safe then. I don't care about your emotions. 

 


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Posted : 07/10/2026 8:59 am
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Vance: Fall guy for the failed MOU.

Ex-Donald Trump aide Caroline Sunshine: JD Vance is fall guy for failed Iran peace deal

Status of the war:  failed MOU, Iran keeps targeting ships in the Strait, enriched uranium remains in Iran, and no resolution to the conflict is in sight.  This is how you spell D-E-B-A-C-L-E.


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Posted : 07/10/2026 10:09 am
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Trump couldn't fly his fancy new, Qatari-gifted plane (the one that Trump calls "the greatest commercial plane ever built," but which Trump says will be retired at the end of his presidency) out of the NATO summit in Turkey because Iran is, according to Israeli intelligence, targeting him and the new plane doesn't have the defensive capabilities of the old Air Force Ones).

Hundreds of millions of dollars, paid by US taxpayers, have been spent to retrofit this aircraft but the Secret Service tells Trump it's too risky for a flight from Turkey to the US.  

It sure is one big, beautiful plane, though. 

Trump's Air Force One switch raises security questions

 


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Posted : 07/10/2026 10:38 am
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @twenty

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Posted by: @snarlcakes

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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Trump has been the best President since Reagan.

That's a joke, right? 

Of course not.  He's better than Obama, Bush, and Biden. You could make an argument that Clinton was better, but he was helped by a GOP Congress that kept him in check.

 

 

Biden and Trump are about equally terrible, in much different ways, but very equal in gutter level history. 

Obama and Bush were both exponentially better than either of those pathetic geriatrics.

Clinton was better than any of them. 

 

That's something shooter would say.  

When Bush left office he took a GOP majority and handed Democrats a supermajority for the first time since who knows.  I don't care to google it.  Obama took his supermajority and quickly lost it after enacting Obamacare, which allowed Trump to win eventually and flipped Congress back to the GOP. Biden was such a disaster it only took him 4 years to f#ck it all up.  And allow Trump to win the popular vote for the first time in a couple decades and Congress.   If the GOP gets trounced in 26 and 28, you'll have argument that Trump deserves to be in the bottom dwellers.  Until then it's a really silly thing to say.

 

 

Only little brains care about the infantile moods of the public. 

 

I'm safe then. I don't care about your emotions. 

 

 

You think a guy who bagged $1B profit from a crypto pump and dump scheme coming into office is a good president. You are a hopeless fool. The base of Idiocracy. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/10/2026 10:51 am
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Posted by: @twenty

You think a guy who bagged $1B profit from a crypto pump and dump scheme coming into office is a good president. You are a hopeless fool. The base of Idiocracy. 

 

There are lots of reasons that Trump should not be in office, but the crypto scheme is more of a reflection on how dumb the American people are instead of how corrupt Trump is.

 

As for the war in general, Iran played us ( / Vance & Trump) and we fell for it.

Iran took those two weeks of the strait being open and with the restrictions / sanctions removed and moved out 70 million barrels of crude.  Now that those tankers are out, they can sit in international waters and wait.  They can sell that oil to whomever and whenever they want and keep their economy afloat for another 6 months to a year.

Meanwhile, the US strategic reserve is getting lower and there are some serious concerns that we are going to get to a level within a few weeks that will start affecting prices.

 


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Posted : 07/10/2026 11:04 am
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Posted by: @twenty

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @twenty

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Posted by: @twenty

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Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Trump has been the best President since Reagan.

That's a joke, right? 

Of course not.  He's better than Obama, Bush, and Biden. You could make an argument that Clinton was better, but he was helped by a GOP Congress that kept him in check.

 

 

Biden and Trump are about equally terrible, in much different ways, but very equal in gutter level history. 

Obama and Bush were both exponentially better than either of those pathetic geriatrics.

Clinton was better than any of them. 

 

That's something shooter would say.  

When Bush left office he took a GOP majority and handed Democrats a supermajority for the first time since who knows.  I don't care to google it.  Obama took his supermajority and quickly lost it after enacting Obamacare, which allowed Trump to win eventually and flipped Congress back to the GOP. Biden was such a disaster it only took him 4 years to f#ck it all up.  And allow Trump to win the popular vote for the first time in a couple decades and Congress.   If the GOP gets trounced in 26 and 28, you'll have argument that Trump deserves to be in the bottom dwellers.  Until then it's a really silly thing to say.

 

 

Only little brains care about the infantile moods of the public. 

 

I'm safe then. I don't care about your emotions. 

 

 

You think a guy who bagged $1B profit from a crypto pump and dump scheme coming into office is a good president. You are a hopeless fool. The base of Idiocracy. 

 

Do you think a corrupt president can ever be "better" than a non-corrupt one?  

You say Bush was exponentially better than Trump and Biden.  I don't think Bush had any real corrupt dealings; Trump obviously has many.  And Bush was, and is, at heart a decent man; Trump is a petty narcissist.

Yet the Bush administration response to 9/11 led to much more damage across the world, to US interests, and to the US economy than anything Trump has done. Would Trump have invaded Iraq in '03? Doubtful, although he probably would have done something else that was chaotic. Plus, if you think Presidents have major responsibilities for the state of the economy, compare when Bush came into office vs. when he left 8 years later. Woof.  So Bush wins on composure, following past institutional norms, and various soft measurements that I, too, think are important (and vastly underrated by Trump supporters).  But on some more hard and objective measures, I think Bush did far, far worse.  

By the way, I think this Iran War is probably the worst policy decision Trump has made (yes, even worse than tariffs) and yet, it will probably be nowhere near as disastrous as Bush's decision to invade and nation build in Iraq.  

 


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