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EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION (1863) (full transcript)

1 By the President of the United States of America: A Proclamation. Whereas, on

the twenty-second day of September, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight

hundred and sixty-two, a proclamation was issued by the President of the United

States, containing, among other things, the following, to wit:

2 "That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight

hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated

part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United

States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free;

3 and the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and

naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons,

and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts

they may make for their actual freedom.

4 "That the Executive will, on the first day of January aforesaid, by proclamation,

designate the States and parts of States, if any, in which the people thereof,

respectively, shall then be in rebellion against the United States; and the fact that

any State, or the people thereof, shall on that day be, in good faith, represented in

the Congress of the United States by members chosen thereto at elections

wherein a majority of the qualified voters of such State shall have participated,

shall, in the absence of strong countervailing testimony, be deemed conclusive

evidence that such State, and the people thereof, are not then in rebellion against

the United States."

5 Now, therefore I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, by virtue of

the power in me vested as Commander-in-Chief, of the Army and Navy of the

United States in time of actual armed rebellion against the authority and

government of the United States, and as a fit and necessary war measure for

suppressing said rebellion, do, on this first day of January, in the year of our Lord

one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and in accordance with my purpose

so to do publicly proclaimed for the full period of one hundred days, from the day

first above mentioned, order and designate as the States and parts of States

wherein the people thereof respectively, are this day in rebellion against the

United States, the following, to wit:EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION page 2

6 Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines,

Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne,

Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans)

Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and

Virginia, (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also

the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess

Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth[)], and which

excepted parts, are for the present, left precisely as if this proclamation were not

issued.

7 And by virtue of the power, and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare

that all persons held as slaves within said designated States, and parts of States,

are, and henceforward shall be free; and that the Executive government of the

United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize

and maintain the freedom of said persons.

8 And I hereby enjoin upon the people so declared to be free to abstain from all

violence, unless in necessary self-defence; and I recommend to them that, in all

cases when allowed, they labor faithfully for reasonable wages.

9 And I further declare and make known, that such persons of suitable condition,

will be received into the armed service of the United States to garrison forts,

positions, stations, and other places, and to man vessels of all sorts in said

service.

10 And upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the

Constitution, upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of

mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God.

11 In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the

United States to be affixed.

12 Done at the City of Washington, this first day of January, in the year of our Lord

one thousand eight hundred and sixty three, and of the Independence of the

United States of America the eighty-seventh.

13 By the President: ABRAHAM LINCOLN

WILLIAM H. SEWARD, Secretary of State.

 

 

 

13th Amendment (full text)

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

 

I rest my case. Slavery ended LEGALLY, EVERYWHERE in the US, when the 13th Amendment was ratified.

The Executive Order known as the Emancipation Proclamation did NOT have that effect.

That's a lot of words just to say I'm right.

 

 

I forgot that your generation can’t learn without sound bites:

 

 


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Posted : 06/20/2026 11:28 am
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Posted by: @myteamisonthefloor

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @myteamisonthefloor

@goat

EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION (1863) (full transcript)

1 By the President of the United States of America: A Proclamation. Whereas, on

the twenty-second day of September, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight

hundred and sixty-two, a proclamation was issued by the President of the United

States, containing, among other things, the following, to wit:

2 "That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight

hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated

part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United

States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free;

3 and the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and

naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons,

and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts

they may make for their actual freedom.

4 "That the Executive will, on the first day of January aforesaid, by proclamation,

designate the States and parts of States, if any, in which the people thereof,

respectively, shall then be in rebellion against the United States; and the fact that

any State, or the people thereof, shall on that day be, in good faith, represented in

the Congress of the United States by members chosen thereto at elections

wherein a majority of the qualified voters of such State shall have participated,

shall, in the absence of strong countervailing testimony, be deemed conclusive

evidence that such State, and the people thereof, are not then in rebellion against

the United States."

5 Now, therefore I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, by virtue of

the power in me vested as Commander-in-Chief, of the Army and Navy of the

United States in time of actual armed rebellion against the authority and

government of the United States, and as a fit and necessary war measure for

suppressing said rebellion, do, on this first day of January, in the year of our Lord

one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and in accordance with my purpose

so to do publicly proclaimed for the full period of one hundred days, from the day

first above mentioned, order and designate as the States and parts of States

wherein the people thereof respectively, are this day in rebellion against the

United States, the following, to wit:EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION page 2

6 Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines,

Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne,

Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans)

Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and

Virginia, (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also

the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess

Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth[)], and which

excepted parts, are for the present, left precisely as if this proclamation were not

issued.

7 And by virtue of the power, and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare

that all persons held as slaves within said designated States, and parts of States,

are, and henceforward shall be free; and that the Executive government of the

United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize

and maintain the freedom of said persons.

8 And I hereby enjoin upon the people so declared to be free to abstain from all

violence, unless in necessary self-defence; and I recommend to them that, in all

cases when allowed, they labor faithfully for reasonable wages.

9 And I further declare and make known, that such persons of suitable condition,

will be received into the armed service of the United States to garrison forts,

positions, stations, and other places, and to man vessels of all sorts in said

service.

10 And upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the

Constitution, upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of

mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God.

11 In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the

United States to be affixed.

12 Done at the City of Washington, this first day of January, in the year of our Lord

one thousand eight hundred and sixty three, and of the Independence of the

United States of America the eighty-seventh.

13 By the President: ABRAHAM LINCOLN

WILLIAM H. SEWARD, Secretary of State.

 

 

 

13th Amendment (full text)

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

 

I rest my case. Slavery ended LEGALLY, EVERYWHERE in the US, when the 13th Amendment was ratified.

The Executive Order known as the Emancipation Proclamation did NOT have that effect.

That's a lot of words just to say I'm right.

 

 

I forgot that your generation can’t learn without sound bites:

 

 

I feel like you're having difficulty with the definition of the verb "to end."

 


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Posted : 06/20/2026 1:11 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

So I think we should celebrate the ending of slavery in this country at least as a top 3 holiday, up there with July 4.  

I think it's a cool holiday. African Americans have been celebrating it for ages, and it's only been recently that it's become a thing among the larger society. It's rooted in concrete historical events, and celebrates not only black freedom generally, but also the snuffing out of the last vestiges of slavery. Far more significant for me than some of the made up shit like Kwanza that has been promoted in the past.


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Posted : 06/20/2026 2:25 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

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Posted by: @bradstevens

Everyone should celebrate this day.  I had to work, but downtown was pretty dead. Lots of offices closed. 

I doubt many white people are using this day to celebrate the end of slavery though, which is disappointing.  

Slavery ended December 6, 1865.

 

 

Not really. 

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/juneteenth-didnt-end-slavery-in-texas-heres-what-really-happened-as-some-2500-blacks-met-their-deaths

 

 

face2faceafrica is wrong. The Emancipation Proclamation (quoted above) did NOT end slavery everywhere. It ended slavery in undefined areas which were still in rebellion (also vague and undefined). For example, it freed no slaves in Kentucky because the Secesh in Kentucky had already been defeated and driven out of the state.  More important, even Lincoln worried that once the Secesh rejoined the House and Senate and started being the shit-heels they had always been, they would challenge the legality of the emancipation and try to return Freedmen to their status as property.

 

The Thirteenth Amendment prevented that. It was the legal mechanism that ended slavery. 

Juneteenth was the day the Union shoved swords in the faces of Secesh trash in Galveston and taught them the meaning of the Emancipation Proclamation “the hard way,” and how their refusal to end their Secesh rebellion meant that their slaves had been free since January 1, 1863. 

Teaxs’ refusal to end its rebellion was particularly egregious since the pre-Secesh addition of Texas as a state was accomplished through war and blood, well-after the original creation of the nation, and their stubbornness and selfishness and rebellion was of a slightly different class and quality than other Secesh states.

 


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Posted : 06/20/2026 2:38 pm
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Posted by: @myteamisonthefloor

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @myteamisonthefloor

Posted by: @bradstevens

Everyone should celebrate this day.  I had to work, but downtown was pretty dead. Lots of offices closed. 

I doubt many white people are using this day to celebrate the end of slavery though, which is disappointing.  

Slavery ended December 6, 1865.

 

 

Not really. 

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/juneteenth-didnt-end-slavery-in-texas-heres-what-really-happened-as-some-2500-blacks-met-their-deaths

 

 

face2faceafrica is wrong. The Emancipation Proclamation (quoted above) did NOT end slavery everywhere. It ended slavery in undefined areas which were still in rebellion (also vague and undefined). For example, it freed no slaves in Kentucky because the Secesh in Kentucky had already been defeated and driven out of the state.  More important, even Lincoln worried that once the Secesh rejoined the House and Senate and started being the shit-heels they had always been, they would challenge the legality of the emancipation and try to return Freedmen to their status as property.

 

The Thirteenth Amendment prevented that. It was the legal mechanism that ended slavery. 

Juneteenth was the day the Union shoved swords in the faces of Secesh trash in Galveston and taught them the meaning of the Emancipation Proclamation “the hard way,” and how their refusal to end their Secesh rebellion meant that their slaves had been free since January 1, 1863. 

Teaxs’ refusal to end its rebellion was particularly egregious since the pre-Secesh addition of Texas as a state was accomplished through war and blood, well-after the original creation of the nation, and their stubbornness and selfishness and rebellion was of a slightly different class and quality than other Secesh states.

 

Seriously:  so what?  

No one celebrates that day.  But Juneteenth is the oldest celebration of an important milestone in our country's history.

What's wrong with that?  

That for a very long time it was only celebrated by black Americans is not a good thing. The national holiday and recognition of Juneteenth might be the best thing (only good thing?) to come out of the Floyd riots.  

 

 


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Posted : 06/20/2026 10:13 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Seriously:  so what?  

 

No one celebrates that day.  But Juneteenth is the oldest celebration of an important milestone in our country's history.

What's wrong with that?  

That for a very long time it was only celebrated by black Americans is not a good thing. The national holiday and recognition of Juneteenth might be the best thing (only good thing?) to come out of the Floyd riots.  

 


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Posted : 06/21/2026 8:42 am
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I used to work for San Francisco based tech companies that would endlessly virtue signal and of course we got Juneteenth off of work. The number of black people working at these companies was significantly <5%.

 

My company I work for now is Atlanta based and 25% black at the corporate level, and we work on Juneteenth. 


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Posted by: @carramrod

I used to work for San Francisco based tech companies that would endlessly virtue signal and of course we got Juneteenth off of work. The number of black people working at these companies was significantly <5%.

 

My company I work for now is Atlanta based and 25% black at the corporate level, and we work on Juneteenth. 

 

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/2068824453828477249

 


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Posted by: @spartans9312

Posted by: @carramrod

I used to work for San Francisco based tech companies that would endlessly virtue signal and of course we got Juneteenth off of work. The number of black people working at these companies was significantly <5%.

 

My company I work for now is Atlanta based and 25% black at the corporate level, and we work on Juneteenth. 

 

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/2068824453828477249

 

 

Have you never been to a non country bar?

There's a lot of things to complain about dems about, but trying to make fun of a white governor for dancing to Naughty by Nature is super weird.  

 


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Posted : 06/23/2026 6:40 am
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@boogie 

trump dance trump 2024


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@boogie it’s cringe. No different than that goofy mayor in Minny dancing to the Somalian shit.  Dems are just cringe with the trying to fit in with their base who look nothing like them and have a background that’s nothing like them.

big bill could pull off authentic. Most can’t. Why bother. 


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@boogie it’s cringe. No different than that goofy mayor in Minny dancing to the Somalian shit.  Dems are just cringe with the trying to fit in with their base who look nothing like them and have a background that’s nothing like them.

big bill could pull off authentic. Most can’t. Why bother. 

 

If what one looks like determines what people think a person should do, this world would be a very boring, uninteresting place.

 

My parents taught me don't judge a book by its cover.  I'm happy that I've passed that down to my kids.

 


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Posted : 06/23/2026 8:26 am
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Who's celebrating juneteenth outside of blue cities?  Real people work for a living.

Friendly reminder that all of deep red Texas has celebrated Juneteenth since 1979, when it was declared a state holiday.  

 


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@boogie there’s a difference between authentic and inauthentic.  People pandering for votes are usually the latter. Dems acting like they fit in is just cringe.  

and believe me these rich ass pubs cosplaying ranchers and laborers etc is no different. Tucker Carlson in his fake cabin and carrhart


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@boogie there’s a difference between authentic and inauthentic.  People pandering for votes are usually the latter. Dems acting like they fit in is just cringe.  

and believe me these rich ass pubs cosplaying ranchers and laborers etc is no different. Tucker Carlson in his fake cabin and carrhart

 

 


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