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@hhlurker the left are obsessed with trump personally.  it's because so many are weak-minded.  never dealt with strong people, aholes, narcissists, etc.  i've partnered with trumps.  been coached by them.  had them for bosses.  he's a type.  more often than not they fold like laundry.  as has trump.  but the jan 6 election obsession is just stupid.  he didn't hold anyone hostage.  he lost.  left office.  and bitched to sate his narcissism.  big deal. he isn't like the clear and present danger presented by dems.  he doesn't want to confiscate your property.  abolish prisons.  play robinhood etc.  

smarter people, and they certainly aren't on this thread, recently released a commercial on trump that i saw this past weekend during the world cup.  It was called STICKER SHOCK.  and it was brilliant.  it started with all of trump's promises to lower costs then showed real people in this super slick commercial engaging in every activity of daily living and showing how the prices have not gone down and how trump has not kept his word.  THAT is brilliant.  and a slick commercial.  not jan 6 nonsense.


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:29 pm
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The idea that election deniers should never get another vote is admirable, but most dems and reps that have put forth that narrative will never lose their seat over it.


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:30 pm
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@hhlurker 

here

but of course instead of just relying on this dems will go too far and now want to be communists 


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:32 pm
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Posted by: @bar-down

@aloha-hoosier no it's that you have tunnel vision and are hyper focused on what YOU believe to be moral and principled without any broader understanding/thinking.  you're a guy who supported a fake war, self-dealing at the hands of 5,000 kids.  a guy who would elect terrorists over a maga because of your personal animus.  you have zero understanding of morality. you are just motivated by your own personal emotions

It's evident that you're the most emotional poster on the board. As always, thanks for your input. I'll do with it what I always do - laugh at it and then ignore it. 😉

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/21/2026 2:32 pm
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For Pete’s sake. Every single person who broke into the capital on January 6 are legally accomplices to the murder of police officers, but Trump has the legal right to pardon all of them and has done so. For Pete sake.

You do realize there wasn't any policies officers killed on January 6th?  They did injure a sh#t ton. 

 


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:34 pm
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Posted by: @bar-down

@arthur-dent of the Dems got their way why would anyone not shoot their neighbor and take their belongings. Why would anyone want to start a business. Build a legacy. Own property.  Our country would be over

And Republicans say screw anyone who isn't a billionaire. See how easy this game is to play?

 


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:37 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

there wasn't any policies officers

Jeezus God. 

There WEREN'T any POLICE officers ...

One Capitol Police officer who was doused with a chemical spray suffered a series of strokes and died the next day. Four other J6 cops died by suicide in the weeks following J6.  

 


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:41 pm
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Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

there wasn't any policies officers

Jeezus God. 

There WEREN'T any POLICE officers ...

One Capitol Police officer who was doused with a chemical spray suffered a series of strokes and died the next day. Four other J6 cops died by suicide in the weeks following J6.  

 

I'm being serious here guys.  No police officers were killed on January 6th.  You realize that, correct?  How far gone are you fellas? 

  Officer Brian Sicknick (U.S. Capitol Police) died on January 7, 2021, the day after the riot. The District of Columbia Chief Medical Examiner ruled his death as natural causes due to two strokes (acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts from basilar artery thrombosis).

 


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:47 pm
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@hhlurker what are you mumbling about now?  I have never defended Trump’s J6 blanket pardons.  I have said some individuals probably were entitled to one. I have posted several times about the problems with categorical pardons based upon sound legal reasoning, not based upon Trump emotionalism.


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:55 pm
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Posted by: @bar-down

@aloha-hoosier no it's that you have tunnel vision and are hyper focused on what YOU believe to be moral and principled without any broader understanding/thinking.  you're a guy who supported a fake war, self-dealing at the hands of 5,000 kids.  a guy who would elect terrorists over a maga because of your personal animus.  you have zero understanding of morality. you are just motivated by your own personal emotions

What one thinks is principled and moral is always going to be subjective.

I see nothing wrong with voting for someone based on your judgment of their character, rather than a mechanical comparison of policy positions. Until the last few elections, I regularly voted for Republicans, and I never did it because I thought, "Well, for this particular office, I really would prefer a more conservative official." I did it because in those races, I either had a very high opinion of the Republican in question, or had a very low opinion of his/her Democratic opponent.

 


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:55 pm
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@goat politically my morals are always utilitarianism


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Posted : 07/21/2026 2:57 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

there wasn't any policies officers

Jeezus God. 

There WEREN'T any POLICE officers ...

One Capitol Police officer who was doused with a chemical spray suffered a series of strokes and died the next day. Four other J6 cops died by suicide in the weeks following J6.  

 

I'm being serious here guys.  No police officers were killed on January 6th.  You realize that, correct?  How far gone are you fellas? 

  Officer Brian Sicknick (U.S. Capitol Police) died on January 7, 2021, the day after the riot. The District of Columbia Chief Medical Examiner ruled his death as natural causes due to two strokes (acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts from basilar artery thrombosis).

 

"All that transpired played a role in his condition."

 


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Posted : 07/21/2026 3:01 pm
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clear and present danger. this is what the other side wants. wake up

The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) platform is a progressive political agenda aimed at shifting structural power and economic control from corporations to the working class. Often summarized by the slogan "Workers Deserve More," the policy document calls for sweeping changes to the U.S. government and economy. [1, 2, 3]
Key aspects of the DSA platform include:
  • Structural Political Reform: Eliminating the U.S. Senate, abolishing the Electoral College, and replacing the presidency and Supreme Court with an executive and judiciary subordinate to a single, proportionally represented legislature. [1, 2, 3]
  • Economic Transformation: Implementing single-payer "Medicare for All," a Green New Deal, universal free housing, and creating a unified, public banking system. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Social and Civil Justice: Defunding the police, abolishing prisons, providing amnesty to all immigrants, and extending full voting rights to noncitizens and those with criminal convictions

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Posted : 07/21/2026 3:03 pm
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@aloha-hoosier 

Every part of this post is your subjective view of issues, MAGA voters and me.  No point in responding any more than I have for the last couple of years.  I don’t think you are nearly the objective observer of conservatives or of Republicans you think you are.  


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Posted : 07/21/2026 3:07 pm
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The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) platform is a progressive political agenda aimed at shifting structural power and economic control from corporations to the working class.

I don’t agree with this at all.  The DSA doesn’t give a rip about the working class. They are all about building an elite ruling class while riding the backs of the working class.

Did you hear AOC’s speech about not leaving southern states behind in their march toward a new political and economic order?  She has it backasswards.  The southern states are kicking butt in economic development, income growth, education improvement, and job growth.  They are leaving NY, New England and most of the rust belt in the dust.  The northern socialists are simply too arrogant and stupid to see where the action is let alone understand it.  .  


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