I'll acknowledge that some (too many) Rogan listeners probably view him too objectively. But I'd submit that while Rogan and his types have always had biases in their media, mainstream news coverage has decidedly become more politically charged. There is evidence (research papers, ex-NPR, etc.) that MSM moved left, particularly regarding social issues and their coverage. Is that really a surprising conclusion, though?
Much of that is being driven by cable news and the dynamic that viewers tend to crave and watch more of the same rather than something different from their view. Money matters.
I do think there was definitely a time when the MSM was left-leaning, but more and more the pendulum seems to be swinging the other way. MS Now is sort of inconsequential in the cable news ratings - combining Fox News with News Max and other fringe sites probably has them beat. CNN is sort of trending toward right of center these days and a lot of other major news outlets, are owned by right-leaning billionaires. The Sinclair Broadcast Group owns the majority of local affiliates and they're definitely right-leaning.
Nah, the 7-9 pm slot on CNN (Erin Burnett(smash), Anderson Cooper, Kaitlin can't remember her last name) are just as left leaning as they always have been. Occasionally they take a dig at a Progressive but other than that it's all anti-Trump admin all evening long. While they aren't MSNBCNOW or whatever the current iteration is, they are still very lefty in their presentation. The 9pm slot with Abby (also can't remember last name but would smash) where they have Scott Jennings as a foil is almost laughably lefty and borderline unwatchable.
And the same people lambasting CBS for being partisan think Rogan is juts the apex of objectivity.
I'll acknowledge that some (too many) Rogan listeners probably view him too objectively. But I'd submit that while Rogan and his types have always had biases in their media, mainstream news coverage has decidedly become more politically charged. There is evidence (research papers, ex-NPR, etc.) that MSM moved left, particularly regarding social issues and their coverage. Is that really a surprising conclusion, though?
Much of that is being driven by cable news and the dynamic that viewers tend to crave and watch more of the same rather than something different from their view. Money matters.
Things have absolutely shifted in the age of cable, but I wonder just how far left broadcast journalism shifted over the years. My gut tells me it was already left, and it didn't shift more left as much as the country shifted right in the 80s, and MSM didn't follow suit. But I don't have numbers to back that up. It's just a feeling.
@goat journalists are naturally left. IU itself did a study on same. Overwhelmingly so. But I don’t ever remember mainstream media being so radically left as it is today. We see it with the presentation of crime to the trump obsession. They’ve rendered themselves nothing more than propagandists
now again with podcasts and all the rest it might not matter. But msm from the NYT to cbs is pure garbage
If Kroft is correct, the Pelley firing doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. Am also surprised the show is doing so well.
When you berate you new boss in front of the rest of the team after leaking internal, perhaps confidential, things to the press, it's not gonna result in a promotion and a raise. It's gonna end up the way this did, 99% of the time.
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Though we can't know for certain, I do wish for a parallel universe where Harris, as president, bombed Iran on the pretense of regime change and toppling a terrorist sympathizing regime. While Trump hasn't covered himself in glory here, CNNs coverage was almost instantly one-sided. Bit gross actually. Calling out how depleted our rocket stocks were, etc. I have a feeling the coverage would have been wholly different had it been Harris at the wheel.@goat journalists are naturally left. IU itself did a study on same. Overwhelmingly so. But I don’t ever remember mainstream media being so radically left as it is today. We see it with the presentation of crime to the trump obsession. They’ve rendered themselves nothing more than propagandists
now again with podcasts and all the rest it might not matter. But msm from the NYT to cbs is pure garbage
If Kroft is correct, the Pelley firing doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. Am also surprised the show is doing so well.
When you berate you new boss in front of the rest of the team after leaking internal, perhaps confidential, things to the press, it's not gonna result in a promotion and a raise. It's gonna end up the way this did, 99% of the time.
No kidding. Pelley fired himself. He might as well have decked the new guy on his way out.
@larsiu oh abc cbs nbc NYT post would have declared her decisive and brave in accomplishing an act that was desperately needed
larsIU6 Scott Jennings makes the "Abby" CNN show worth watching, in my opinion, as he holds his own against the anti-MAGA panel members. The show must do well as Jennings is reported to be making $500,000 working for CNN.
Nah, the 7-9 pm slot on CNN (Erin Burnett(smash), Anderson Cooper, Kaitlin can't remember her last name) are just as left leaning as they always have been. Occasionally they take a dig at a Progressive but other than that it's all anti-Trump admin all evening long. While they aren't MSNBCNOW or whatever the current iteration is, they are still very lefty in their presentation. The 9pm slot with Abby (also can't remember last name but would smash) where they have Scott Jennings as a foil is almost laughably lefty and borderline unwatchable.
I'll take your word for it, but I don't think Dave Ellison is going to let anything too damning or crazy about Trump get onto his airwaves. The people you mention might be considered 'anti-Trump,' but they largely treat him with kid gloves. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like Jake Tapper is penning a tell all about how Trump can't stay awake in Cabinet meetings. And besides, the combined ratings of Fox News/NewsMax far outweigh the ratings of MSNow/CNN. Throw in the fact that the Washington Post, X and other social media and the local affiliates Sinclair owns and more Americans aren't getting decisive far-left media shoved down their throats.
There are prominent left-leaning media personalities for sure, but their audiences aren't as big as their conservative counterparts. That said, the media definitely leaned much harder left from the advent of cable news all the way into Trump's first term. I think we've been witnessing that titanic shift in real time.
I do at least appreciate the attempt at having a counterpoint. He has amazing patience.larsIU6 Scott Jennings makes the "Abby" CNN show worth watching, in my opinion, as he holds his own against the anti-MAGA panel members. The show must do well as Jennings is reported to be making $500,000 working for CNN.
Nah, the 7-9 pm slot on CNN (Erin Burnett(smash), Anderson Cooper, Kaitlin can't remember her last name) are just as left leaning as they always have been. Occasionally they take a dig at a Progressive but other than that it's all anti-Trump admin all evening long. While they aren't MSNBCNOW or whatever the current iteration is, they are still very lefty in their presentation. The 9pm slot with Abby (also can't remember last name but would smash) where they have Scott Jennings as a foil is almost laughably lefty and borderline unwatchable.
I'll take your word for it, but I don't think Dave Ellison is going to let anything too damning or crazy about Trump get onto his airwaves. The people you mention might be considered 'anti-Trump,' but they largely treat him with kid gloves. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like Jake Tapper is penning a tell all about how Trump can't stay awake in Cabinet meetings. And besides, the combined ratings of Fox News/NewsMax far outweigh the ratings of MSNow/CNN. Throw in the fact that the Washington Post, X and other social media and the local affiliates Sinclair owns and more Americans aren't getting decisive far-left media shoved down their throats.
There are prominent left-leaning media personalities for sure, but their audiences aren't as big as their conservative counterparts. That said, the media definitely leaned much harder left from the advent of cable news all the way into Trump's first term. I think we've been witnessing that titanic shift in real time.
Jake Tapper is basically Maggie Haberman in a suit. Just in it for the juice of rubbing elbows with important people so he can pen a book. C list celebrity status is what he craves.
Agree the left leaning side can't hold a candle to FOX and its minions. I really don't watch this shit (but the wife, lordy.....) but what I do catch is just mind numbingly TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP. I assume it's about the same as Fox during the Obama years.
The problem with 60 M and Pelley and Stahl in particular is that neither are able to leave alone a point they disagreed with. Seems they always have to argue about it. A good interviewer will usually leave a point of disagreement alone and move on, or might clarify the point. Of course their disagreements were almost 100% with Republicans.
Listening to arguments is not why I listen to interviews with news- makers.