But you see, apparently at Michigan he can coach there without living near there. Because if he coached at Indiana the crowd with pitchforks and torches can just march up the hill since we are close by. Or something.I don't think Michigan's fanbase is any less toxic. There is judgement anywhere.
is he in a shrek movie. Yeah I don't think so
If people want to sum it up by saying 'He felt there would be more good jobs to consider, and that he thought the Indiana admin (and maybe fan base) didn't have their shit together'. I can buy it... But I don't believe, that if we had an opening, not a hypothetical maybe one, we wouldn't have been in the running. I can also understand if we both had feelers out while still with our old coaches, he may have preferred the expected Michigan job. A good gig.
I don't think Michigan's fanbase is any less toxic. There is judgement anywhere.
But you see, apparently at Michigan he can coach there without living near there. Because if he coached at Indiana the crowd with pitchforks and torches can just march up the hill since we are close by. Or something.
It's fun watching people trying to "solve the mystery" of why May didn't become IU's coach. It's much like all the British police procedurals my wife makes me watch on Britbox -- full of likely suspects, twists and turns, and red herrings. At least those shows eventually come to a conclusion, and the mystery is solved. I doubt that will be the case with the Mystery of Dusty May.
Do all of his /family/extended family and his in-laws live in Ann Arbor now and are well established in the community up there?But you see, apparently at Michigan he can coach there without living near there. Because if he coached at Indiana the crowd with pitchforks and torches can just march up the hill since we are close by. Or something.I don't think Michigan's fanbase is any less toxic. There is judgement anywhere.
True, but after the Archie and (especially) Woody/Buckner debacles, I think the toxicity was at alarming levels. Michigan might have become toxic after Howard's final season disaster, but football has always been #1 in Ann Arbor. Moreover, hoops has been relatively successful in the 2000s.I don't think Michigan's fanbase is any less toxic. There is judgement anywhere.
In any case, IU football's amazing, unprecedented success has taken some "heat" off the basketball program since it's not the only game in town anymore. And, while I didn't (and still don't) like the DD hire, it at least made basketball sense, just as Archie's did. On the other hand, Woody never made sense--and most fans expected the inevitable shit show--which led to all the vitriol. Most applauded the Archie hire, myself included, so no one blamed the admin for his failure. But Woody put everyone associated with IU basketball in the fans' crosshairs.
We'd have to talk to Dusty about the Indiana basketball coaching mystery but he probably will not tell us anything. I don't know about toxicity but my opinion is Indiana fans display greater passion and care about basketball more than Michigan fans. The history of Indiana basketball, the Knight legacy and the impact of Hoosier Hysteria all play a role. As a group, people from Indiana just care more about basketball than Michiganders. Just sharing my observations as a 27 year Ann Arbor resident.
Football is a different matter as the Wolverine faithful live and die with their football program 365 days a year.
this thread is a mess. I can confirm his family was to close. I mean it came out of a family members mouth. He is where he wants to be. He didn’t want Louisville either.
Hopefully May just goes to the NBA or retires. He clearly has no love for IU.
Alright, I'll buy it. Michigan was a great or even better job anyway. Hopefully won't always be... Hoosiers will rise again.
I guess IU has the only toxic fan base in the USA. All I ever here is how toxic we are and the expectations are just too much for any normal coach. We literally gave two guys 8 years to make 2 ncaa tourneys and that is considered toxic and unrealistic expectations? LOL.
@openwheel What we're, or at least most of us, aren't privy to are the personalities of the players involved. Sometimes people are or aren't your type - someone you'd love to work with or not. Quality of work life stuff.
True, but after the Archie and (especially) Woody/Buckner debacles, I think the toxicity was at alarming levels. Michigan might have become toxic after Howard's final season disaster, but football has always been #1 in Ann Arbor. Moreover, hoops has been relatively successful in the 2000s.I don't think Michigan's fanbase is any less toxic. There is judgement anywhere.
In any case, IU football's amazing, unprecedented success has taken some "heat" off the basketball program since it's not the only game in town anymore. And, while I didn't (and still don't) like the DD hire, it at least made basketball sense, just as Archie's did. On the other hand, Woody never made sense--and most fans expected the inevitable shit show--which led to all the vitriol. Most applauded the Archie hire, myself included, so no one blamed the admin for his failure. But Woody put everyone associated with IU basketball in the fans' crosshairs.
Nobody ever thought woodson would work out some tried to convince themselves of it just like they are trying to convince themselves IU will challenge for a national title next year. Yes I am talking btown banners guys. But the fact of the matter is by his last year I think people were not toxic they just did not care anymore and football made is easier to not care anymore. We will see if DD can bring back any excitement next year. Its nice to have football to look forward too because yes the roster looks goon on paper but who knows with IU bbal we always seem to underachieve.
I am hoping for the best, expecting the worse, and all that. But one thing is for sure. Buckner and Woodson need lifetime bans from ever stepping on the IU campus again. Both are simply embezzlers who pillaged their own university.
...I think we're still looking for one or two of those types as backups inside.... yes the roster looks goon on paper ...
@arioznahoosier4554 We'll have a pretty good idea if the fanbase is back by midseason. I couldn't believe I was at a Senior Night Celebration game and the place was mostly empty.