Is IU going to have the NIL budget to build a good roster? I know it was discussed that the big boosters held back last year because they were upset Woodson was let go.
Doesn't sound like things will be dramatically increased this year. Top 20ish.
Is IU going to have the NIL budget to build a good roster? I know it was discussed that the big boosters held back last year because they were upset Woodson was let go.
It appears ryan carr should kill it from what i read. Is it simply because he was in the nba? I am expecting a top 5 portal class regardless of money because from what I read carr is going to get it done.
@arioznahoosier4554 Ryan Carr is a positive addition. He has a lot of connections in the scouting and agent world and I am optimistic that he has international connections that should pay dividends as well. Having him on board should help Indiana in roster construction. I don't think there's any doubt about that. That written, he's only one piece of the puzzle and he's not going to solve all issues. Anyone assuming otherwise is probably setting themselves up for disappointment.
@arioznahoosier4554 Ryan Carr is a positive addition. He has a lot of connections in the scouting and agent world and I am optimistic that he has international connections that should pay dividends as well. Having him on board should help Indiana in roster construction. I don't think there's any doubt about that. That written, he's only one piece of the puzzle and he's not going to solve all issues. Anyone assuming otherwise is probably setting themselves up for disappointment.
I believe many are setting themselves up for a disappointment he is not going to be a miracle worker like some think . I imagine other programs have guys just like carr on their payroll. And I highly doubt we are going to get guys over Duke and Kansas just because of Carr. I think of all these so called genius NBA minds woodson hired and paid and that did nothing.
Is IU going to have the NIL budget to build a good roster? I know it was discussed that the big boosters held back last year because they were upset Woodson was let go.
Doesn't sound like things will be dramatically increased this year. Top 20ish.
Well, they clearly don’t have championship aspirations then. DeVries is no Billy Beane.
I can't speak for him but I took it as .. we've done this before and it really didn't get us anywhere. Throw in Thad Matta and Dane Fife. It all went for naught. Is this a position that will be utilized and not be controlled by DD. Who does he answer to? Bigfoot neutered all those people imo. Which made them just window dressing.
We need someone with charisma. I don't know a lot about Carr. But I do know that Doorknob isn't
CDD isn't in a position this year to dictate anything or neuter any staff that are there to help him. He needs to improve, I'm sure he's been told that, and he better utilize any and all resources that are made available to him.
We will see if he listens or not these guys all got massive ego's and they all think their way is the best. I have seen it with high school coaches as well. Some simply refuse to change
When we hire an average coach Scott tries to get him resources. Woodson rejected assistance.
Per what Carr said, DeVries and himself are on the same wavelength. If they arent successful with it, it wont because DeVries is too egotistical Im betting.
Daddy's $1.1M gift to his son is off the books, so that helps.
I don't think Carr is some basketball magician, but it should be easy to put together a better roster than this year's clown show.
@arioznahoosier4554 It's hard for many high schools to find a qualified coach period. A lot of those guys have the job for as long as they want it and they know it.
It looks like IU hired a worse Archie. They learned nothing from their past mistakes. For their next coach, watch them hire another NBA retread. And so the cycle continues.
Do we even know if IU will have an increased NIL budget this year?
If they did its because some rich boosters said well football turned it around lets try it on bbal. But me guess is if it did increase its not by enough to make a huge difference. NIL is out of control and guys will cost even more than last year.
@gthomas All guesses, but I think probably decent ones. A couple of Carr's main contributions will be his connections with agents, foreign player reps, grassroots leaders in the US, that DeVries likely doesn't have nearly as much of yet... and then his experience and skills at helping advise and manage an NBA roster. There are so many variables that go in to managing a fixed budget roster, in a very competitive league, and the amount of time, data analysis, details, scouting, etc... that goes in to doing that effectively... well, its why most major bball programs have a position now like Carr. I also think Carr's experiences specifically working with the Pacers, should help. IU will have really good resources available, but not the most or the best. So finding value will be essential. The Pacers have operated as a middle/low end market team for years, and they've had a resurgence during the years Carr has been actively involved. He hasn't been the end decision maker or really any of the draft decisions, or the trade decisions, or the contract decisions... but he's been involved and instrumental. I have to think CDD will be the end decision maker on all the related college decisions made. So Carr will be carrying on similar functions and roles.
Further... I just can't imagine that part of Carr's job wouldn't be also evaluating the level of NIL IU is going to need to truly be competitive. Its hard to imagine him leaving the Pacers job he had, without getting assurances that he'd have resources at competitive levels to expectations. And if the budget is hard capped at 10 million, that would very, very likely signify IU becoming LESS competitive, NIL resources wise, versus who I would assume our expected peers would be.
In short, he's here to help setup of lists of prospects, put CDD together with key people, and to make sure we're maximizing the value on all these kids, and then the value for the entire roster. AND, he's here to help present to key stakeholders, why IU needs XX amount worth of NIL. Its not an exact science. Less so even than NBA talent evaluation, due to the inherent younger ages, and less established talent being evaluated. So he certainly could miss on some kids too. But I think its a safe assumption there will be much less risk of getting someone like Reed Bailey for the equivalent of his 1 million bucks.
@gthomas All guesses, but I think probably decent ones. A couple of Carr's main contributions will be his connections with agents, foreign player reps, grassroots leaders in the US, that DeVries likely doesn't have nearly as much of yet... and then his experience and skills at helping advise and manage an NBA roster. There are so many variables that go in to managing a fixed budget roster, in a very competitive league, and the amount of time, data analysis, details, scouting, etc... that goes in to doing that effectively... well, its why most major bball programs have a position now like Carr. I also think Carr's experiences specifically working with the Pacers, should help. IU will have really good resources available, but not the most or the best. So finding value will be essential. The Pacers have operated as a middle/low end market team for years, and they've had a resurgence during the years Carr has been actively involved. He hasn't been the end decision maker or really any of the draft decisions, or the trade decisions, or the contract decisions... but he's been involved and instrumental. I have to think CDD will be the end decision maker on all the related college decisions made. So Carr will be carrying on similar functions and roles.
Further... I just can't imagine that part of Carr's job wouldn't be also evaluating the level of NIL IU is going to need to truly be competitive. Its hard to imagine him leaving the Pacers job he had, without getting assurances that he'd have resources at competitive levels to expectations. And if the budget is hard capped at 10 million, that would very, very likely signify IU becoming LESS competitive, NIL resources wise, versus who I would assume our expected peers would be.
In short, he's here to help setup of lists of prospects, put CDD together with key people, and to make sure we're maximizing the value on all these kids, and then the value for the entire roster. AND, he's here to help present to key stakeholders, why IU needs XX amount worth of NIL. Its not an exact science. Less so even than NBA talent evaluation, due to the inherent younger ages, and less established talent being evaluated. So he certainly could miss on some kids too. But I think its a safe assumption there will be much less risk of getting someone like Reed Bailey for the equivalent of his 1 million bucks.
But I think its a safe assumption there will be much less risk of getting someone like Reed Bailey for the equivalent of his 1 million bucks.
It all depends on what is available remember Bailey was highly touted in the portal and Kentucky and Kansas wanted him too. The big problem is alot of guys in the portal are not that good and likely whey they are leaving their schools. People thought woodson had two complete stud guards coming in and they turned out to be mostly busts. I for one will not be paying any attention to these portal rankings they seem to be way off in many cases.
Kanaan Carlyle ranked 15th
Miles Rice ranked 24th
Bailey officially entered the portal on March 28 and instantly became a priority recruiting target for programs like Texas, Kentucky, and Kansas. Bailey's size and skill piqued interest across the country.
The contribution I most want is a process that creates positive results for the human resources acquired to own success on the floor. A seldom spoken of task Cignetti has obviously used everywhere he's been.
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