@gros-louis I'm referring to the athletes that aren't really doing ANY classes. I know many are setup with predominately online classes, more so the more elite and "famous" they get, I assume. So I guess its impossible to know who's actually participating. Any that aren't, and I know there are plenty that aren't, are wasting a huge opportunity. And not having mechanisms in place, and a culture in place, that forces them to utilize the resources and training college provide, in ALL their forms, is also a wasted opportunity.
And while being literate and functional in that newer digital focused environment, is probably beneficial to anyone and everyone these days. I'd contend it becomes less important, the more likely the athlete is to become a high earning professional athlete. As nearly all their earning will be based on interpersonal activities.
And I Wasn't responding to you, even if this platform makes it seem that I was. My response was to IUNorth.Sorry, but this is pretty close to being an 'old man yelling at clouds' post. Education modalities have changed. People all over the world, at all levels of education now take online courses and benefit greatly from them. Kelley has the #1 online MBA in the world, five-years running. People LEARN in these online classes. Is it different? Yes, 100%. Does it align better with today's college generation and the way they've grown up than what you and I experienced (I don't know your age, but you're not Gen A)? I'd say it absolutely does, though maybe not for everyone. It's just different. Different doesn't mean worse. The suggestion that because a lot more classes are online now means they aren't beneficial is just wrong.@hoosiers94 I've posted a lot about this in the past. All involved are wasting such an incredible opportunity for these kids to utilize all these world class resources, at these universities. The vast majority of these kids will never make money off playing sports after their time in college, so those kids are literally wasting free resources to position themselves better for life after college. The small group of elite level athletes, that are truly just there until they're ready to make the jump to professional sports... those athletes are like walking economies of their own. Why wouldn't everyone, NCAA, the schools, agents, the families, the athletes themselves, want to maximize their time in college in every way possible? So many classes, professors, etc... that could help them... Finance, Marketing, Public Speaking, Nutrition, Leadership... Jordan and LeBron aren't billionaires from their playing contracts. Those guys probably aren't great examples of athletes that used college resources well, obviously LeBron didn't go at all... but their ultra wealthy now from things other than their playing abilities. Those things are generally things that colleges can help build and improve.
Anyway... agree with you... Its a weird dynamic to have guys enrolled at universities, that really don't have to do anything classwork wise.
typical you ... I said nothing of it being wrong. I said it was weird. I said it is what it is. I said I didn't like it. But I didn't say it was wrong.
Do I understand correctly that you're alleging there are a decent number of athletes that aren't taking ANY CLASSES of ANY MODALITY while in college?@gros-louis I'm referring to the athletes that aren't really doing ANY classes. I know many are setup with predominately online classes, more so the more elite and "famous" they get, I assume. So I guess its impossible to know who's actually participating. Any that aren't, and I know there are plenty that aren't, are wasting a huge opportunity. And not having mechanisms in place, and a culture in place, that forces them to utilize the resources and training college provide, in ALL their forms, is also a wasted opportunity.
And while being literate and functional in that newer digital focused environment, is probably beneficial to anyone and everyone these days. I'd contend it becomes less important, the more likely the athlete is to become a high earning professional athlete. As nearly all their earning will be based on interpersonal activities.
Would have to agree with you. You can lead a horse to water... it is a shame that they would not take advantage of the opportunity and whether they make the NBA or NFL etc or not some sense of mental acuity and discipline that they would develop through course work would only aid in their careers and future. But hey free country.
@gros-louis Yes. Seems like a pretty widely held belief that there are many that have others check all the boxes for them, yes.
@gros-louis Yes. Seems like a pretty widely held belief that there are many that have others check all the boxes for them, yes.
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@gros-louis Yes. Seems like a pretty widely held belief that there are many that have others check all the boxes for them, yes.
a widely held belief based on what though? Please tell me it’s more than message board opinions because on this forum alone we have plenty of baseless wild opinions.
@gros-louis Yes. Seems like a pretty widely held belief that there are many that have others check all the boxes for them, yes.
a widely held belief based on what though? Please tell me it’s more than message board opinions because on this forum alone we have plenty of baseless wild opinions.
I can tell you that it's happening at Purdue , IU, Northwestern and VU. Witnessed by my kids. And my nephew who is on the NW football team.
Me after never missing Bowling Class at the Union and bringing home the Intramural Bowling Championship.
@bigmike Online classes didn't exist until recently. The closest thing would have been correspondence courses, I'm not sure if those were ever available to "student athletes" though. Time and technology advances, and I don't have any real issue with student athletes doing mostly online courses as long as they are actually doing them and passing them. I would guess Mendoza was, and there are other examples such as Anthony Leal who finished his undergrad degree early and was working on an MBA. But you never hear about players being ineligble due to grades anymore, so I would guess that either nobody's looking or the players are transferring faster than the suspensions are being imposed, or that they've found ways to have others do the work for them. Online platforms are supposed to authenticate the user but if that's just a password, that's easily circumvented.