I have no evidence to support this belief... but I strongly suspect much of anything less than top 5 ish in conference, top 5-6 ish NCAA seed, team playing pretty well at end of season... and CDD will get fired. You don't 1)hire an expensive GM away from a high level position with the Pacers 2)Spend this much money on a roster... if you're going to be o.k. with it finishing middle of the pack in the conference, and squeaking in to the tournament. The only caveat I'd give on that, is this roster is built entirely with guys that can come back another year after next year. IF... for whatever reason, we fumble around early/mid part of the season, and come on fairly strong late, but fall short of the top 5 ish seed levels of success... But the vibes are decent, and we'll return a decent amount of the core rotation... he could survive another mediocre overall year. But it'll have to be obviously trending up heading in to the offseason. Any sort of bad direction, and bad vibes the last few weeks...and then any feelings of another roster reset... and he'll get canned.
I have no evidence to support this belief... but I strongly suspect much of anything less than top 5 ish in conference, top 5-6 ish NCAA seed, team playing pretty well at end of season... and CDD will get fired. You don't 1)hire an expensive GM away from a high level position with the Pacers 2)Spend this much money on a roster... if you're going to be o.k. with it finishing middle of the pack in the conference, and squeaking in to the tournament. The only caveat I'd give on that, is this roster is built entirely with guys that can come back another year after next year. IF... for whatever reason, we fumble around early/mid part of the season, and come on fairly strong late, but fall short of the top 5 ish seed levels of success... But the vibes are decent, and we'll return a decent amount of the core rotation... he could survive another mediocre overall year. But it'll have to be obviously trending up heading in to the offseason. Any sort of bad direction, and bad vibes the last few weeks...and then any feelings of another roster reset... and he'll get canned.
I think Top 5 seed is the barometer year-of-year consistently (obviously with top 2 seed sprinkled in and deep runs every few years). Winning some conference titles. I don't care about conference placement anymore, its essentially irrelevant with unbalanced schedules across a huge league. Purdue finished 6th last year and were a 2 seed in the dance. Iowa was 9th and in the E8 and a single spot above last year's 'failed' IU team.
@gthomas I don't think you'll be right on that... football/Cig has to have fortified his confidence, and his standing. I haven't gotten much of any "stubborn" vibes from him since he arrived at IU. If this next season is similar to last season... after all these investments, I would guess Dolson will be pretty pissed off about it, and will have support to move on CDD. Lets hope all this is a moot point. I have a feeling it will be.
I have no evidence to support this belief... but I strongly suspect much of anything less than top 5 ish in conference, top 5-6 ish NCAA seed, team playing pretty well at end of season... and CDD will get fired. You don't 1)hire an expensive GM away from a high level position with the Pacers 2)Spend this much money on a roster... if you're going to be o.k. with it finishing middle of the pack in the conference, and squeaking in to the tournament. The only caveat I'd give on that, is this roster is built entirely with guys that can come back another year after next year. IF... for whatever reason, we fumble around early/mid part of the season, and come on fairly strong late, but fall short of the top 5 ish seed levels of success... But the vibes are decent, and we'll return a decent amount of the core rotation... he could survive another mediocre overall year. But it'll have to be obviously trending up heading in to the offseason. Any sort of bad direction, and bad vibes the last few weeks...and then any feelings of another roster reset... and he'll get canned.
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I have no evidence to support this belief... but I strongly suspect much of anything less than top 5 ish in conference, top 5-6 ish NCAA seed, team playing pretty well at end of season... and CDD will get fired. You don't 1)hire an expensive GM away from a high level position with the Pacers 2)Spend this much money on a roster... if you're going to be o.k. with it finishing middle of the pack in the conference, and squeaking in to the tournament. The only caveat I'd give on that, is this roster is built entirely with guys that can come back another year after next year. IF... for whatever reason, we fumble around early/mid part of the season, and come on fairly strong late, but fall short of the top 5 ish seed levels of success... But the vibes are decent, and we'll return a decent amount of the core rotation... he could survive another mediocre overall year. But it'll have to be obviously trending up heading in to the offseason. Any sort of bad direction, and bad vibes the last few weeks...and then any feelings of another roster reset... and he'll get canned.
I think Top 5 seed is the barometer year-of-year consistently (obviously with top 2 seed sprinkled in and deep runs every few years). Winning some conference titles. I don't care about conference placement anymore, its essentially irrelevant with unbalanced schedules across a huge league. Purdue finished 6th last year and were a 2 seed in the dance. Iowa was 9th and in the E8 and a single spot above last year's 'failed' IU team.
yes but Purdue only got that 2 seed by winning the BTT. Had they not done that they were looking at a 6 seed
@iunorth I tend to agree, but DD isn't getting canned ... even if the coming season is a repeat of this season. If Dolson pulled the plug after Year 2, he'd be indicting himself.
I think if he doesn't fire him after another mediocre season with all the money spent it would be a bigger indictment on Dolson .. so I totally could see him making that move
I have no evidence to support this belief... but I strongly suspect much of anything less than top 5 ish in conference, top 5-6 ish NCAA seed, team playing pretty well at end of season... and CDD will get fired. You don't 1)hire an expensive GM away from a high level position with the Pacers 2)Spend this much money on a roster... if you're going to be o.k. with it finishing middle of the pack in the conference, and squeaking in to the tournament. The only caveat I'd give on that, is this roster is built entirely with guys that can come back another year after next year. IF... for whatever reason, we fumble around early/mid part of the season, and come on fairly strong late, but fall short of the top 5 ish seed levels of success... But the vibes are decent, and we'll return a decent amount of the core rotation... he could survive another mediocre overall year. But it'll have to be obviously trending up heading in to the offseason. Any sort of bad direction, and bad vibes the last few weeks...and then any feelings of another roster reset... and he'll get canned.
I think Top 5 seed is the barometer year-of-year consistently (obviously with top 2 seed sprinkled in and deep runs every few years). Winning some conference titles. I don't care about conference placement anymore, its essentially irrelevant with unbalanced schedules across a huge league. Purdue finished 6th last year and were a 2 seed in the dance. Iowa was 9th and in the E8 and a single spot above last year's 'failed' IU team.
yes but Purdue only got that 2 seed by winning the BTT. Had they not done that they were looking at a 6 seed
You think they jumped 4 seed lines? The committee chair said they jumped from 11th overall to 8th after the B1GT win. They would have been a 3 otherwise and a 4 seed at absolute worst.
I don’t know how much IU spent on NIL this off-season but it had to have been a lot. You don’t spend that kind of money and not demand a high ROI. The expectation has to be a good team that can make a run in March. No more 18-19 win seasons and being on the bubble.
I have no evidence to support this belief... but I strongly suspect much of anything less than top 5 ish in conference, top 5-6 ish NCAA seed, team playing pretty well at end of season... and CDD will get fired. You don't 1)hire an expensive GM away from a high level position with the Pacers 2)Spend this much money on a roster... if you're going to be o.k. with it finishing middle of the pack in the conference, and squeaking in to the tournament. The only caveat I'd give on that, is this roster is built entirely with guys that can come back another year after next year. IF... for whatever reason, we fumble around early/mid part of the season, and come on fairly strong late, but fall short of the top 5 ish seed levels of success... But the vibes are decent, and we'll return a decent amount of the core rotation... he could survive another mediocre overall year. But it'll have to be obviously trending up heading in to the offseason. Any sort of bad direction, and bad vibes the last few weeks...and then any feelings of another roster reset... and he'll get canned.
I think Top 5 seed is the barometer year-of-year consistently (obviously with top 2 seed sprinkled in and deep runs every few years). Winning some conference titles. I don't care about conference placement anymore, its essentially irrelevant with unbalanced schedules across a huge league. Purdue finished 6th last year and were a 2 seed in the dance. Iowa was 9th and in the E8 and a single spot above last year's 'failed' IU team.
yes but Purdue only got that 2 seed by winning the BTT. Had they not done that they were looking at a 6 seed
You think they jumped 4 seed lines? The committee chair said they jumped from 11th overall to 8th after the B1GT win. They would have been a 3 otherwise and a 4 seed at absolute worst.
i had read somewhere, don't remember where, prior to the BTT , this source had them at a 4/5 seed and had they had a poor performance in the BTT, they could fall to a 6.
Don't know how credible the source was .. and it may have been a stretch but maybe it even supports your thoughts about conference placement???
https://nbadraftroom.com/2027-2nd-round/
I'll wait until i see them play before touting how they have all this talent. I like wht they have done this week and feel good about them looking like a P4 team rather than a team of mid major all stars. Still sherrill ranked at 92 and Burton at 174 doesn't scream at them having a ton of talent that can guarantee anything. It's entirely a new team again. There will be growing pains. If you want call it excuses fine but those facts seem to indicate these guys aren't NBA caliber talents yet. Maybe that's enough to make S16, we'll see.
I think solidly making the tournament without worry of bubble no matter how they do in the tourney is big progress. Maybe 20-25 wins. Then the team can move forward with everyone back plus some good 27 HS commitments. I think they will need a surprise major contribution from one of the Frosh to take the big jump in one year. Prince?
@sig Trent is gonna shoot all summer and make a big jump. 35% from deep next year for my boi
I'm hoping for consistency from him. I don't think shooting is his issue as much as making the adjustment to Big Ten basketball. His performances against the little sisters of the poor need to translate to conference play. He just looked totally out of rhythm as the season wore on and competition ramped up. Good news is they still can add players and get better. Depth will be a good thing. The more the merrier.
@sig freshman normally struggle but I got a good feeling about Trent. Athletic and smart. Good combo. He will come around.
@sig Still have a couple spots left to fill. But I think with this roster, its reasonable to expect a solid, non bubble, NCAA tournament team. Some things that could push it to a surprise B10 contender, deep NCAA run, etc... caliber team... 1)Great chemistry. This is probably the most important unknown, at this point. How the team buys in, meshes, etc...will determine a lot. This is CDD's job. I think he did a mediocre job of this in year 1. Hopefully that was more the mix of guys, than his own coaching abilities on it. 2)One or two guys outside the current portal signees, stepping up and being either a starter or major contributor. The portal guys are exciting, but its pretty rare that ALL of them will "hit", and be really good and impactful. So Sisley, Moody, any of the last few signees... the more of them that step up and break their way in to the regular rotation, the better. At a minimum, it makes us much more deep. And practically, it helps limit the "damage" of any of the portal guys not living up to expectations. We all lived through watching multiple guys not living up to their hype, this past year. It'll happen again, need some other guys to out perform expectations on the flip side of that. Obviously it limits the damage of key injuries too.
So... decent chemistry, and an unexpected emergence or two, or just late signees of impact guys... and this team can be really good.