Yeah, especially late when we had closed it up and made it a game. I thought the same... Frustrating. Got excited he had the ball in good position and would turn and shoot and instead turned away to pass. That's why I said the head case thing, something mental going on after his outside shots quit falling.
He's been overrated from the start by many on this board. For his career at Drake, he shot 36% from 3s and 51% on 2s. His OE rating was between 113-116...very good but not elite. At IU he's shooting 33% on 3s and 52% on 2s. It's always concerned me that our coach's son shoot so many ill-advised 3s.
careful. You're about to be scorched by the sunshine folks. They like to reprimand
he's out of shape for one. And I agree overrated. Playing well in the MVC doesn't translate to the Big Ten.
I hadn't seen USC almost at all. Midway thru the first half we were down 3-4 and I starting saying we should smoke this team. But the fact that we weren't was telling me it was an off night.
DeVries has become the forward version of Enright. Gets some boards, plays some physical dee. Can't score.
We're going down, in the stretch run, unless DeVries finds a way to play big ten basketball. I'm not worried about Dorn. Bad night, but he's not a head case about shooting like DeVries is right now.
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What bothers me about the Big 3 of Wilkerson, TD, and Dorn is that they settle for so many long/contested early shot 3s.
Fortunately, I forgot about the game until the first half had concluded. I don't remember any shot fakes and/or drives from TD or Dorn the entire 2nd half. Were there any? Dorn was 2 from 12 on 3s, TD was 1 for 8. TD missed 1 two point shot. I don't think Dorn shot any. 3 from 20. That's a plan?
This bozo coach promised one thing at the PC....that his team would play extremely hard. For the most part, they're starting to do that. He never promised intelligent play.
They didn't quit but didn't do what they needed to win. Back to reality....
Bailey went from Superman back to Clark Kent: 17M+, 0 rebounds, 5 fouls.
They didn't quit but didn't do what they needed to win. Back to reality....
Bailey went from Superman back to Clark Kent: 17M+, 0 rebounds, 5 fouls.
this game again exposed some of our weaknesses. Weakness is one.. poor decision making is another, lack of quickness to get open .. other than Wilkerson who has surprised me .. I was skeptical that he'd be able to get separation against better teams .. usc isn't great but they have some rangy tough players.
we are just a mid major roster. Is what it is. I disagree with anyone who says we give max effort game in and game out for 40 minutes. Now does any team nail it for 40 fo 30 games a year likely not .. but just about every game we have periods of it from multiple people ... rewatch the games, it's true. Tucker seems like he's either way out of shape or something is wrong. Maybe his shoulder isn't 100. Or maybe he is what he is, a really good mid major player who can't elevate in Power 4. Either way I feel I was sold a bill of goods on him.
Yeah, especially late when we had closed it up and made it a game. I thought the same... Frustrating. Got excited he had the ball in good position and would turn and shoot and instead turned away to pass. That's why I said the head case thing, something mental going on after his outside shots quit falling.
I wonder if possibly CDD has been hammering the need to "run our offense" and so now the first instinct is to pass the ball and get the offense going. Of course that should not preclude taking a good, open shot if you have it and it's a shot you can make. I don't think even RMK would disagree with that.
Yeah, especially late when we had closed it up and made it a game. I thought the same... Frustrating. Got excited he had the ball in good position and would turn and shoot and instead turned away to pass. That's why I said the head case thing, something mental going on after his outside shots quit falling.
I wonder if possibly CDD has been hammering the need to "run our offense" and so now the first instinct is to pass the ball and get the offense going. Of course that should not preclude taking a good, open shot if you have it and it's a shot you can make. I don't think even RMK would disagree with that.
you might be onto something. Kind of over coaching to the point it takes away their instincts. Doesn't let them be athletes or just play basketball. Need a marriage of both.
$1M+ for 40% FG and 34% 3FG. Nice.he's out of shape for one. And I agree overrated. Playing well in the MVC doesn't translate to the Big Ten.
@mushroomgod He's also been our best rebounder, and one of our best passers, and is being asked to defend legit post players, and doing a pretty good overall job of it. He's a VERY good overall B10 basketball player. He just isn't able to score like he could at the lower levels.
Do you think he's a top 20 player in the BT?
@hoosiers94 Google "Tucker DeVries double dip NIL." Very interesting.
Not really. Conspiracies from extremely ignorant WVU fans. I guess you still believe he also faked his injury and intentionally tanked his dad's first power 5 job last year, as well?
Anything coming from WVU fans is rubbish and should be immediately ignored.
As far as this season, his role has clearly changed and the team has looked better since it has. He's clearly not trying to be much of a scorer and more of a facilitator while also being tasked with rebounding and guarding the bigs. Ideally, we'd get more scoring out of him but if he's still cold from 3 I'm not sure what can be expected. He's too slow to consistently drive and opposing team will take that vs him kicking out to Dorn/Wilk all day long.
He had plenty of P5 games last year before the injury against top teams to discredit the mid-major talk, as well. He's a good player, but not an elite scorer unless he's hot. That's pretty obvious.
We need more out of him, but he is doing a lot of little things to help win games right now that are crucial.
@mushroomgod Hmmm... not sure... but he's averaging 13, 5 and 4, roughly, against the B10 and LVille and Kentucky. He has almost a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio in those games. And its visually obvious our team's level of play drops down a level when he goes to the bench. He's not "Fat and slow". And its not like he's playing awful, or even bad, all around basketball. He's just not scoring like he did at the lower levels. And that probably IS because he's not athletic enough to create as much space and/or get effective shots off as much as he used to be. And I'm sure he's pressing a little because of that, and that's effecting his open looks too. The nice thing, as someone that follows the entire game, is he isn't letting it effect other areas where he can help us be effective.
So... top 20... maybe not...but I'm sure he's in that conversation. And if he finds his shot a little more the last 7 games, and then in the B10 tournament... to go with the all around numbers he's already put up... he'll likely make one of the All conference teams.
Huh? I didn't say I buy that rumor or others; I'm no conspiracy theorist. But that whole situation is a bit shady. Promised WVU the world, bolted after one season, and brought no one with him (sans TD). I just find the whole thing a little odd, that's all.I guess you still believe he also faked his injury and intentionally tanked his dad's first power 5 job last year, as well?
Huh? I didn't say I buy that rumor or others; I'm no conspiracy theorist. But that whole situation is a bit shady. Promised WVU the world, bolted after one season, and brought no one with him (sans TD). I just find the whole thing a little odd, that's all.I guess you still believe he also faked his injury and intentionally tanked his dad's first power 5 job last year, as well?
So, he should have turned IU down?
Aren't several of the ppl who think he's not the guy and we can land any big name we want saying that if we came calling with the right number that we could land any of those big names? Would that be shady? If Dusty were to have came would that have been shady?
Its a better job. It happens all the time. There's nothing odd about it. AFA players it sounds like they were all tied to Frazier which was probably never going to happen here.