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The performance of the stock market is not going to matter in key races in 2026. Here's what matters:
"A majority of Americans say the area in which they live is either not very affordable or not affordable at all and many do not think the economy is working well for them. They also feel financial strain due to rising gas prices, and more than six in ten blame President Trump for that increase. In this midterm election year, Democratic congressional candidates maintain a healthy lead against Republicans on the generic congressional ballot question."
Trump has f*cked things up royally.
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The stock market matters and it also matters in key races. If the market was down 10-15% it wouldn't help him in November. Don't be silly.
Even Trump, in a rare moment of honest candor, once said the markets only “make rich people richer.”
Nearly half of Americans hold no investment assets at all. Of those that do, for many it’s a modest 401k that isn’t going to help them pay their bills.
People are struggling to put food on the table and gas in their cars, utility bills are through the roof, and homeowners, car and medical insurance is becoming increasingly expensive.
The performance of the stock market doesn’t mean shit to the average voting Joe.
I'm really busy. You'll have to continue your "the Republican Party is going to do well in November" fantasy with someone else.
At least you are consistent
I'm one of only a handful of objective, unbiased posters on this board. the prior had many more. here not so much. the stock market doesn't mean much with politics imo. it's investors beliefs on future corp profits. says nothing of the current financial well being of small businesses, your average household. costs are killing people. tariffs are hurting small businesses. trump made us safer ending the soros' bs. otherwise he's been a nightmare this term.
lol....of course the stock market matters. It's just not the only thing.
@snarlcakes it's a rain drop in the ocean compared to costs of living. it skews to large corps and the top 10 percent own something like 90 percent of all stocks. an incumbent would be far better off with cheap gas and goods and shit stock market than the opposite
@snarlcakes it's a rain drop in the ocean compared to costs of living. it skews to large corps and the top 10 percent own something like 90 percent of all stocks. an incumbent would be far better off with cheap gas and goods and shit stock market than the opposite
No, an incumbent wouldn't be better off with a shitty stock market. You're arguing it's better to be in recession than a growing economy.
@snarlcakes what was GDP growth under Biden compared to Trump? Such growth is great, if everything else is working. More profits with inflation isn't good. AI layoffs aren't going to help. "We know food is high for you, but look how much more money Musk has" probably isn't a winning campaign. Maybe so.
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The performance of the stock market is not going to matter in key races in 2026. Here's what matters:
"A majority of Americans say the area in which they live is either not very affordable or not affordable at all and many do not think the economy is working well for them. They also feel financial strain due to rising gas prices, and more than six in ten blame President Trump for that increase. In this midterm election year, Democratic congressional candidates maintain a healthy lead against Republicans on the generic congressional ballot question."
Trump has f*cked things up royally.
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The stock market matters and it also matters in key races. If the market was down 10-15% it wouldn't help him in November. Don't be silly.
Even Trump, in a rare moment of honest candor, once said the markets only “make rich people richer.”
Nearly half of Americans hold no investment assets at all. Of those that do, for many it’s a modest 401k that isn’t going to help them pay their bills.
People are struggling to put food on the table and gas in their cars, utility bills are through the roof, and homeowners, car and medical insurance is becoming increasingly expensive.
The performance of the stock market doesn’t mean shit to the average voting Joe.
I'm really busy. You'll have to continue your "the Republican Party is going to do well in November" fantasy with someone else.
You still didn't explain how Trump benefits from a shitty stock market with voters?
I'd stop reading those sources, unless they're claiming it won't drop back to prewar levels until the end of the year. That's a reasonable take. However, if the war ends tomorrow the price of gasoline will drop. The question is how much and how fast.
Seriously, I'd be happy to read any sources that you can find from a fuel analyst or oil representative that will state otherwise and explain their reasoning (aka, not a journalist, politician, or podcaster who just goes off of headlines. Guys that can back their opinions up with non-partisan government reports and statistics).
Something to bear in mind is that the current price of oil is what it costs to buy a barrel of crude oil today (not refined into gasoline). While that does have a small impact on the current price of gasoline, at the end of the day, it is all about supply and demand of what is currently in stock / reserve, what amount has been processed, and the reestablishment of the supply chain back to pre-war levels for market stability.
15%-20% of the world's oil has now been cut off for two months. Those effects have not actually been felt yet because all countries have been processing their current crude inventory. We are currently processing our reserves and exporting RECORD amounts of our own crude (and that is only going to go up over the next month), while also having not increased production. Gasoline distribution companies are not going to magically lower prices back down until the current oil storage levels in this country are filled back up to and operating at pre-war levels (ie. after two to three months of uninterrupted delivery).
Even then, they are going to reduce refined gas prices gradually. We are up $2+ from pre-war levels. Even with things returning to normal, I can nearly guarantee that they will only drop it by $0.20 to $.30 a month after the supply chain has been restored (which is a minimum of two months away). So dropping to pre-war levels by the beginning of 2027 is the best-case scenario (2 months reestablished supply chains = June / July, $0.30 cent drop per month afterward). Call me a cynic, but I don't think things will go even that smoothly. All it takes is a faction of Iranian jihadists trying to keep the war alive or even Israel launching another offensive and things go right back up again.
And to be clear, I am absolutely not "rooting" for this to happen. This is just the reality of the situation.
No, an incumbent wouldn't be better off with a shitty stock market. You're arguing it's better to be in recession than a growing economy.
I actually think this is correct. But personally I believe the percentages of benefit / detriment are not equal, at least with regards to their voting opinions.
The amount that people care about the stock market being crappy is going to be more than the amount that people care about the stock market doing well.
@snarlcakes what was GDP growth under Biden compared to Trump? Such growth is great, if everything else is working. More profits with inflation isn't good. AI layoffs aren't going to help. "We know food is high for you, but look how much more money Musk has" probably isn't a winning campaign. Maybe so.
I never claimed other stuff doesn't matter. I just pushed back on the notion that a stock market at all time highs isn't a good thing for Trump or any incumbent. It's a good thing and positive with voters, because the inverse would be really bad for them. I'm just being rational.
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The performance of the stock market is not going to matter in key races in 2026. Here's what matters:
"A majority of Americans say the area in which they live is either not very affordable or not affordable at all and many do not think the economy is working well for them. They also feel financial strain due to rising gas prices, and more than six in ten blame President Trump for that increase. In this midterm election year, Democratic congressional candidates maintain a healthy lead against Republicans on the generic congressional ballot question."
Trump has f*cked things up royally.
Home of the Marist Poll | Polls, Analysis, Learning, and More
The stock market matters and it also matters in key races. If the market was down 10-15% it wouldn't help him in November. Don't be silly.
Even Trump, in a rare moment of honest candor, once said the markets only “make rich people richer.”
Nearly half of Americans hold no investment assets at all. Of those that do, for many it’s a modest 401k that isn’t going to help them pay their bills.
People are struggling to put food on the table and gas in their cars, utility bills are through the roof, and homeowners, car and medical insurance is becoming increasingly expensive.
The performance of the stock market doesn’t mean shit to the average voting Joe.
I'm really busy. You'll have to continue your "the Republican Party is going to do well in November" fantasy with someone else.
You still didn't explain how Trump benefits from a shitty stock market with voters?
Wtf?
You're flailing again.
Go away.
@snarlcakes you’re presupposing a recession. An argument can be made a recession is preferable to high costs. A recession touches a small percentage. Costs impact a large percentage
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The performance of the stock market is not going to matter in key races in 2026. Here's what matters:
"A majority of Americans say the area in which they live is either not very affordable or not affordable at all and many do not think the economy is working well for them. They also feel financial strain due to rising gas prices, and more than six in ten blame President Trump for that increase. In this midterm election year, Democratic congressional candidates maintain a healthy lead against Republicans on the generic congressional ballot question."
Trump has f*cked things up royally.
Home of the Marist Poll | Polls, Analysis, Learning, and More
The stock market matters and it also matters in key races. If the market was down 10-15% it wouldn't help him in November. Don't be silly.
Even Trump, in a rare moment of honest candor, once said the markets only “make rich people richer.”
Nearly half of Americans hold no investment assets at all. Of those that do, for many it’s a modest 401k that isn’t going to help them pay their bills.
People are struggling to put food on the table and gas in their cars, utility bills are through the roof, and homeowners, car and medical insurance is becoming increasingly expensive.
The performance of the stock market doesn’t mean shit to the average voting Joe.
I'm really busy. You'll have to continue your "the Republican Party is going to do well in November" fantasy with someone else.
Where were these rants and complaints while Grandpa Joe was in office? You weren't here.
No, an incumbent wouldn't be better off with a shitty stock market. You're arguing it's better to be in recession than a growing economy.
I actually think this is correct. But personally I believe the percentages of benefit / detriment are not equal, at least with regards to their voting opinions.
The amount that people care about the stock market being crappy is going to be more than the amount that people care about the stock market doing well.
Watching my stuff increase takes some of the sting out of gas and food costs. If the market was bad, I'd feel a lot worse.
@snarlcakes you’re presupposing a recession. An argument can be made a recession is preferable to high costs. A recession touches a small percentage. Costs impact a large percentage
I need to drink a dozen nooners to continue this conversation.