Oh I see it. This will not stand!@bradstevens Murt has a third bewb for his rating, you need to catch up!
@carramrod We're dealing with converging facts here. Trump is a pervert. We know this. And he did have young, seemingly attractive, girls working at his home...that ended up on Epstein's island. Doesn't mean he was molesting them. He probably wasn't. But the first two facts are slimy enough. And when the context that he's the mother f'ing President of the United States of America... is added back to it... its all just so absurd. Can we please, for the love of God and Country, set the bar just a smidge higher???
Yeah I’m not conceding Trump is a pervert. I think he likes hot, Slavic women. That doesn’t make him a pervert in my eyes.
We have Giuffre on video talking about how great Mar-a-Lago was as an employer. I suppose it’s possible she was being abused at the same time but it stretches the imagination given she was talking in the context of how Ghislaine and Epstein abused her.
People that still want to cite “grab them by the pussy” as evidence of abuse are unserious. It is indeed locker room talk, I could see myself saying the same thing on the golf course.
And it doesn’t mean I or Trump for that matter have ever walked up to unsuspecting women and grabbed their vagina.
The Bergdorf dressing room fiasco is also one of the more fantastical stories I’ve ever heard. Doesn’t help that the woman is fit for a straight jacket
Rich, powerful playboys will inevitably have women crop up from their past. Women that they probably treated less than respectfully. But you need to demonstrate criminal sexual assault and I’ve seen no credible evidence that Trump engaged in as much.
@carramrod Anyone that says...I just grab them in the... is a pervert. Lots of perverts walking around. Lots of them on this board, I'm sure. I can be one myself, at times. But Trump has said, and done, things that solidify him as pretty advanced on the pervert scale. I know his supporters want to paint him as everyone's crass friend that flirts with the beer cart girl. He is that, but has said and done things that take it further than that. Facts. They don't need MAGAsplained away.
Conversely, he doesn't need to rot in jail for that, either. If he hasn't actually molested a teenage girl, he shouldn't be accused of it, let alone indicted of it in the public eye.
My point is I hope for a time where the bar for our President is set a bit higher than someone like Trump... Or Biden sniffing hair... Or Clinton banging people in his office.
@hurryinghoosiers lol we can review the data ourselves hickory. Tough trying to shill for the dems these days huh
obviously you're incapable of reading data.
Trying to defend your vote for a pedophile is even more difficult..for most anyway.
@iunorth I guess we’re arguing about where the pervert line stops and starts in that case. If you concede he’s probably done nothing criminal.
If you see a 17 year old in a bathing suit and she looks good, pervert? Only if you voice it?
In my mind, no. Not unless you act on it, that makes you a pervert.
I have heard much worse than “grab them by the pussy” come out of friends mouths. None of whom are rapists, most of whom are happily married and respectful men.
Fantastical, hypothetical bro talk is not something to hang a man on.
Face it, there's nothing that Trump could do that will phase his cult. He could rape puppies on film and have defenders.
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
@hurryinghoosiers hickory what data?
compare inflation rates?
border numbers?
crime?
gas prices?
go. Let’s compare. Otherwise you’re just doing more bad faith posting
@shooter oh no Mr woke. Fake conservative. You should be thrilled. But you’ve been exposed over and over again as a progressive cult member. The entire board has laughed at your I’m a conservative for years Sybil
I have no desire to ever again engage with you, Mr. 3rd tit dimwit.
STFU
Hopefully some day we'll get ignore list capability on here.
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
@carramrod We're dealing with converging facts here. Trump is a pervert. We know this. And he did have young, seemingly attractive, girls working at his home...that ended up on Epstein's island. Doesn't mean he was molesting them. He probably wasn't. But the first two facts are slimy enough. And when the context that he's the mother f'ing President of the United States of America... is added back to it... its all just so absurd. Can we please, for the love of God and Country, set the bar just a smidge higher???
Not at the expense of policy, no. If a Boy Scout runs that checks the policy boxes, great, but I’ll vote for what actually impacts me & mine every time over something I like or don’t about a candidate….
@shooter you come to troll. That’s it. Now you’ve had a long break to try to be an adult. But here you are again to troll. You are just so angry. Trump has destroyed you. You’d do well to just not visit these boards. You don’t contribute anything. You’re just an angry child
@aloha-hoosier, did you turn over a new leaf? You were pretty adamant about this kind of stuff at Rivals.Trying to defend your vote for a pedophile is even more difficult..for most anyway.
Ah, yes, great analogy. Now just link me 2 years worth of stories from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, LAT, Tribune, etc. And the interviews they did with Bobolinski.
@carramrod He's done worse... is my point. People like you want to paint him as someone that just talks... he's admittedly done more than just make "bro like comments".
Your first example is an absurd equivalent. Its astonishing to me how he's gotten so many people to deflect for him, and create these ridiculous false equivalencies for him.