@zeke4ahs You’ll be dead & long forgotten before the history books come out to tell the story of a Pres that was controversial but put American citizens first & got us back on track. If Trump is guilty of a crime, he’ll be found as such if proven, but until then you’re just telling stories like the folks claiming Obama killed his chef. Most politicians are scoundrels, & I don’t care about which stories you believe, or about women that followed him into a dressing room 30 years ago (what did she think was going on?😆) I’m sure being childless & no family is bad enough on its own & you do have my pity, but filling that giant void in your life with hate & contempt makes for a pathetic existence, & many of us with a real stake in the future are getting what we voted for, the rest is just noise & red meat for lonely spinsters, the mentally ill, & those willing to be subjugated by criminals, radicals, & freaks.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyvn7ee3539o.amp He can’t even keep his lies straight. One day it’s real estate and the next it’s stealing his girls. What are 15 year olds doing working there anyway? And he also admitted that one of the girls was an Epstein victim who killed herself. Also seen film of Epstein being questioned about Trump. It’s not looking good, Trumpers.
Article said 16, not 15. I worked at 15. Not sure i see a problem with it. My wife worked at 15 as well and know several girls at the time worked at the tanning salon.
That being said, if Trump, Clinton, Gates, Dershowit, or anyone is found to have been engaging in sex acts with underage girls, then try them all if possible. Put them in jail!!
It sucks, Boogie. I hate it.@bradstevens a large percentage of Pubs want the same fate for dems. Our divide is really incredible.
Trump is so above pettiness like griping about having an employee stolen from him.
or……
Trump actually got pissed at Epstein for stealing his employees.
Here’s Giuffre talking about how she loved Mar-a-Lago.
https://twitter.com/Gsteel2020/status/1950380835980673426
You’d have to be a real bad faith piece of shit to try and paint Trump’s comments as more than they are.
There's no proof Trump abused a teenager, is there?@oneeyedundertaker Gosh if only there was something just a little more shameful about Trump than his Epstein connection, THEN his base would turn on him. We knew sexual abuse wasn’t enough, that was well known and self admitted. I mean, who really cares about that? Then after years of screeching at the top of their lungs about Oprah and Tom Hanks and sex trafficking, suddenly, who really cares about the Epstein list? Because all it takes is to put out some fake stuff on Obama to get their attention. Trump had his base pegged when he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and his base wouldn’t care. It’s actually even worse. He could abuse a teenager and his base doesn’t care. Yep. Can’t wait for the history books. Do NDA’s expire after someone is dead? Just curious….
@socks-shorts-1-2-3-swish eh sort of. and i'm not saying he didn't do untoward things. and who knows maybe demands were sent and confidential settlements were reached without filing. but if epstein was prosecuted and sued i find it hard to believe that trump wouldn't have been if there was money to be had. it's not indiana down there. the plaintiffs' bar in pbc is the who's who of lawyers in america. these aren't partners at ice miller. these are the biggest of the big dogs. bob montgomery. the first winner of big tobacco. jack scarola. the largest verdict on behalf of an individual in history. willie gary. jamie fox plays him on the big screen. sheldon schlesinger. 60 minutes 20/20 on and on. neatest courtroom around was in his office. and it just goes on and on like that down there. no one wants to work at a defense firm. they come from all over to try to work with these guys. exceptionally wealthy powerful men who would not give a fck about donald trump and would be more than happy to grill his ass.
i find it hard to believe that if there were ACTUAL evidence, not 30 year old stories of dressing rooms with spoliation and faulty memories and all the rest, but actual evidence that wasn't stale as shit someone in this community of wolves would have gotten him
It’s worth remembering that the Epstein saga broke into the open during the height of “Me Too”.
That’s not to excuse Epstein or any of his wrongdoings.
But it’s eminently believable that Epstein and his associates (including Trump) were subject to false claims of sexual misconduct from women looking to capitalize.
Giuffre herself has proven to be a less than credible witness. She essentially fabricated an entire story about Dershowitz.
There is a burden of proof to be met as you state. We can’t all live by the ironclad Zeke law of “I don’t like you, you’re a Republican, you must abuse women”
You can’t order societies that way.
@bradstevens Why is proof needed? Just pretend to connect all the dots and spread innuendo via the MSM and voila...Trump’s a pedophile! That's how it works. See Russiagate.
I was actually going to analogize it to the smoke surrounding The Biden Crime Family. Republicans went wild and nothing came of it. Democrats stood fast saying there was no hard evidence and it was all a wild goose chase. Now the roles have been reversed.@bradstevens Why is proof needed? Just pretend to connect all the dots and spread innuendo via the MSM and voila...Trump’s a pedophile! That's how it works. See Russiagate.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyvn7ee3539o.amp He can’t even keep his lies straight. One day it’s real estate and the next it’s stealing his girls. What are 15 year olds doing working there anyway? And he also admitted that one of the girls was an Epstein victim who killed herself. Also seen film of Epstein being questioned about Trump. It’s not looking good, Trumpers.
Article said 16, not 15. I worked at 15. Not sure i see a problem with it. My wife worked at 15 as well and know several girls at the time worked at the tanning salon.
That being said, if Trump, Clinton, Gates, Dershowit, or anyone is found to have been engaging in sex acts with underage girls, then try them all if possible. Put them in jail!!
Yeah, my middle kid started working when she was 14 (i think) as a host at a restaurant. She was only allowed to work no more then 3 hrs a day, which was like 2 days a week.
I don't see the issue with her working at that age at all.
@boogie most normal people worked at 15-16 in some form of fashion. And it didn’t mean the employers were necessarily perverts
@carramrod We're dealing with converging facts here. Trump is a pervert. We know this. And he did have young, seemingly attractive, girls working at his home...that ended up on Epstein's island. Doesn't mean he was molesting them. He probably wasn't. But the first two facts are slimy enough. And when the context that he's the mother f'ing President of the United States of America... is added back to it... its all just so absurd. Can we please, for the love of God and Country, set the bar just a smidge higher???
@mcm666 You probably should see a doctor about that third bitty you've grown under your handle...
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but your best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying "that was f***ing awesome"
@bradstevens Murt has a third bewb for his rating, you need to catch up!
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but your best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying "that was f***ing awesome"