I’ll bet you weren’t defending the filmmakers that cast Scarlett Johansson in Ghost in the Shell or Matt Damon in the Great Wall, which were just as dubious.
I have no problem with either of those castings.
Helen was a daughter of Zeus, either by Leda (human) or Nemesis (god), depending on the tradition. She's not a white woman. She's divine. Unless you think it's impossible for gods to have dark skin, there is no historical inaccuracy to get hung up on here.
Where's the outrage?
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Also, how would it go ever if Page played Kunta Kinte?
Kunte Kinte was real. Helen is not. Greece had made connections with African empires. It isn't like she was portrayed as an American, though that would have had less pushback.
@bulk-vh one of the most sold paintings in US history, blond Jesus.
To be honest, Zendaya as Athena is more problematic to me. A Greek playing a Greek god seems like it should be strongly considered.
So what exactly is your problem? That Matt Damon is of Scottish extraction rather than Greek?
Look at the cast. Look at historical descriptions and art. You cannot change the past. I want to see the past as it was.
And my problem isn't a big one; it just means I have no interest in seeing it, like most movies the past decade. I may give it a whirl once it hits Netflix or Hulu, given reviews have been favorable thus far, and I have liked some of Nolan's past works. As I stated to Ohio, I have no idea why someone would be that upset that they want to remake it.
The Odyssey wasn't the past. It's a myth.
I still have no idea what your problem - big or small - actually is. @oneeyedundertaker seems to think it's a racial thing.
Pretty sure I spelled it out to Marv if you want to read a few posts above. Don't give me Christian Bale as Shaka Zulu or Michael Jordan.
So it is race. Your problem is that a mythical figure who was the child of gods is portrayed by a black woman.
She was literally noted as being "white-armed" and is always depicted as white. I'm glad you now feel "seen" Goat.
She was literally noted as being "white-armed" and is always depicted as white. I'm glad you now feel "seen" Goat.
Isn't "white-armed" the ancient Greek equivalent of "blue-blooded?"
It’s not hard. Nolan went woke. Kissing woke ass to get the Hollywood woke to praise him and give him awards.
Doesn’t mean it won’t still be a great movie. I love his movies. On so many levels they are so uniquely great
She was literally noted as being "white-armed" and is always depicted as white. I'm glad you now feel "seen" Goat.
Isn't "white-armed" the ancient Greek equivalent of "blue-blooded?"
Are you really trying to claim that white-armed had nothing to do with having fairer skin? Your pedantry is tiresome. If you don't care about accuracy and historical reference, just say that. Some of us do.
Even ChatGPT, the wokest of AI:
- Mythologically: The Greeks generally imagined her as a beautiful Greek woman, often with fair skin and sometimes light hair.
- Using modern racial categories: If she were a real Mycenaean Greek woman, she would generally be considered White/European (West Eurasian) by modern standards, while recognizing that "white" is a modern social category rather than one used in the Bronze Age
She was literally noted as being "white-armed" and is always depicted as white. I'm glad you now feel "seen" Goat.
Isn't "white-armed" the ancient Greek equivalent of "blue-blooded?"
Are you really trying to claim that white-armed had nothing to do with having fairer skin? Your pedantry is tiresome. If you don't care about accuracy and historical reference, just say that. Some of us do.
Even ChatGPT, the wokest of AI:
- Mythologically: The Greeks generally imagined her as a beautiful Greek woman, often with fair skin and sometimes light hair.
- Using modern racial categories: If she were a real Mycenaean Greek woman, she would generally be considered White/European (West Eurasian) by modern standards, while recognizing that "white" is a modern social category rather than one used in the Bronze Age
I'm sure they imagined her looking like them. That's what people do with myth. But it has nothing to do with historical accuracy. She wasn't real.
What you regard as mere pedantry is me simply responding directly to the arguments you are making. If you find that tiresome, maybe try making better arguments.
Hot damn. We're actually capable of having a heated discussion without it turning into a food fight. Refreshing.
@unclemark its not really politics/parties head on. Its like fighting over the wnba
@bar-down Yeah this is like fighting over your favorite potato chip flavor.