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BradStevens
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

Not the System Admins though; they are always hard-working and worthy of highest praise.

 

Goes without saying.  

Well, unless you've read the Wool series.  You should change your handle to Bernard.  


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Posted : 09/10/2026 12:57 pm
BradStevens
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Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @big-ryan

@oneeyedundertaker 

"At the forefront" of what? 

AI research. 

“Woefully uninformed,” indeed.

https://share.google/g5uB74w0rWVILmDFD

 

@bradstevens Nice try with one of your frequent "gotcha" attempts, but I'm not disputing our leading role in AI research.  We need to take the lead in implementing AI safeguards.  To date, the US has prioritized rapid innovation and private-sector growth over federal regulation. 

And sorry if there are other threads on this topic.  My posting frequency and time spent here is a fraction of yours.  I read only a small percentage of what's posted here.  In any event, this (the dire warning from the Anthropic researcher) was breaking news yesterday with widespread media coverage. 

What's your deal? 

 

 

It's not a gotcha. You feigned ignorance of what undertaker was saying. Play the dope, get treated like a dope. 

AI safeguards are going to come from AI research, not other dopes in Congress trying to craft federal regulations years out of date by the time they are enacted and that don't apply in the rest of the world.  Again, you are exactly what you accused CoH of being: woefully uninformed. 

As for what my "deal" is, I've laid it out explicitly before: you are a proven liar and an insufferable prick.  

Any other questions? 

 


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Posted : 09/10/2026 1:07 pm
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

When this type of thing happens, everyone from the CEO to the programmers should face a legal proceeding.

it would be of no consequence.  look at boeing.  those mother fuckers should be rotting in prison.  tortured.  but instead they're walking away with tens of millions and on to the next thing.

i'm with bowl on this in theory.  we didn't ask for ai.  we didn't ask for any of this shit.  but i liken it climate change.  what good is me recycling my coke can when pakistan and a hundred other countries aren't and are rife with pollution.  we'll regulate it and china and russia will proceed without guardrails.  

i am not a fan of tech.  i don't think it has improved our lives.  fuck the science.  speaking of where's shitter?  

finally @arthur-dent i'm obsessed with submissible story.  i've watched multiple documentaries on.  on many levels i'm fascinated by it.  crazy crazy reckless stuff.


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Posted : 09/10/2026 1:11 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

AI lacks human consciousness and independence.

coh you're light years behind on this stuff.  it's already independently hacked.  of it's own volition.  if you have social media.  the gram.  check out anderson cooper's page. his interview with this ai nerd. you'll get up to speed with that one interview.  you are viewing it like a horse and buggy and it's an absolute rocket ship


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Posted : 09/10/2026 1:56 pm
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@bradstevens 

My question was presented to another poster.  Why did you feel the need to jump in and answer for him?  I'll tell you why.  Because you've had it in for me ever since I called you out for an untrue and, frankly, defamatory claim you made about the mayor of Minneapolis. 

Let go of the grudge, get over the anger and move on, little guy. 

I make mistakes from time to time. So do you, although you'll never admit it. Mistakes aren't lies. There's zero evidence here, or anywhere, of my being a "proven liar."  My posts are fact-based and usually include credible and, in many cases, primary sources. 

Your repeated insistence on related topics being consolidated into a single thread is mystifying.  It's as though you view this place as a repository of academic papers written by some august body of scholars.  Get real.  This forum is mostly shit-posting and opinions presented as fact.  Some posters are barely literate.  Don't take things so seriously. 

And you're wrong about AI safeguards.  They're not going to come simply from "AI research."  AI safeguards won't be implemented until government officials, AI CEOs, AI researchers and ethicists finally collaborate and effectively address the existential threat that AI development presents. 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/10/2026 1:57 pm
larsIU
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

Not the System Admins though; they are always hard-working and worthy of highest praise.

Of course, yes. 

 

But also, this isn't nuclear technology. this won't be contained. And, if it escapes and it's first inkling is to take out a power grid. Well, while I do believe criminal and civil penalties should be massive, I can't get past how, in the escape scenario, we wouldn't have bigger fish to fry. 

These new model (even the commercially available ones) are ridiculously powerful. Genie's out. 

 


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Posted : 09/10/2026 1:59 pm
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Posted by: @bar-down

fuck the science.  speaking of where's shitter?  

I looked it up, Shooter's last post was on 07/30/2026.

Did you kill him?

Smile

 

 


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Posted : 09/10/2026 2:47 pm
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I'm fascinated by MBA America vs. AI. All the shortcuts taken to boost the bottom line are vulnerabilities. Ultimately, civilization is precarious construct based on human trust. AI lives outside that construct and can only be let in by human choice, by humans choosing to trust AI. Man raced headlong to create nuclear weapons regardless of future consequences. Scientists create theory, engineers apply theory to life. I have long been astonished by the degree of trust required to have air traffic controllers working in unison to safely land our planes. The moment we trust that to AI, they can all come to a crash landing.


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Posted : 09/10/2026 2:50 pm
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@hhlurker can't we just unplug the fucking thing


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Posted : 09/10/2026 3:29 pm
UncleMark
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

 The same people that can't open an email aren't going to do well regulating AI. It is like the beginning of the internet, a s security conference I was at discussed bizarre court rulings attributed to judges who had zero idea what the Internet was. One was, and this was recent at the time, the idea you or I could run out and buy coke.com.


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Posted : 09/10/2026 5:25 pm
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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @arthur-dent

 The same people that can't open an email aren't going to do well regulating AI. It is like the beginning of the internet, a s security conference I was at discussed bizarre court rulings attributed to judges who had zero idea what the Internet was. One was, and this was recent at the time, the idea you or I could run out and buy coke.com.


Canadian Eww GIF by CBC

 


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Posted : 09/10/2026 5:31 pm
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The only hope for elegant AI regulation is some type of SRO industry wide. Frontier Labs can test each other’s models for threats they understand. The workings of this are starting to take shape and I’d note they’ve done a good job self-regulating to date.

Congress should absolutely not have a role for the foreseeable future. Setting up some kind of FDA for AI with a mandate crafted by Bernie Sanders and AOC is insane and will guarantee stifled growth and a backlog of models waiting to be released.


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Posted : 09/10/2026 5:49 pm
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Posted by: @bar-down

Posted by: @arthur-dent

When this type of thing happens, everyone from the CEO to the programmers should face a legal proceeding.

it would be of no consequence.  look at boeing.  those mother fuckers should be rotting in prison.  tortured.  but instead they're walking away with tens of millions and on to the next thing.

i'm with bowl on this in theory.  we didn't ask for ai.  we didn't ask for any of this shit.  but i liken it climate change.  what good is me recycling my coke can when pakistan and a hundred other countries aren't and are rife with pollution.  we'll regulate it and china and russia will proceed without guardrails.  

i am not a fan of tech.  i don't think it has improved our lives.  fuck the science.  speaking of where's shitter?  

finally @arthur-dent i'm obsessed with submissible story.  i've watched multiple documentaries on.  on many levels i'm fascinated by it.  crazy crazy reckless stuff.

 

Technological innovation makes you more productive, it has never been a source of happiness, and shouldn’t be blamed for lack of happiness. 

 


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Posted : 09/10/2026 5:52 pm
UncleMark
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@goat 

When I searched for that clip I was surprised it was Hatch that showed his ass. I would have sworn it was Grassley.


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Posted : 09/10/2026 6:09 pm
CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

Unclear parameters, sloppy programming, etc, are huge risks. 

Those things are not a risk without a human calling the shots.  AI cannot form an intent to destroy humanity.  


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Posted : 09/10/2026 6:17 pm
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