And many times, you get a free version of today's Haggler v. Hearns to watch amongst the passengers.@snarlcakes that really sucks. I’m a big fan of these shit airlines. They go where I want to go walk right on and the flight is always direct
This is wonderful news. Air travel is far too widely available. There needs to be about half the number of domestic air travelers a year relative to the current number. And half the seats per aircraft to match.
You shouldn’t be able to get a round trip domestic anywhere for less than $1000. There should be a strictly enforced dress code.
And the poors can drive the way they have since time immemorial.
Too many geezers on flights too. They should stay at home and sit on their rockers till they drop dead.
And the poors can drive the way they have since time and memorial.
You live in the lower midwest and want mountains or water. you go to the ozarks and gatlinburg. upper midwest. michigan. that's it. the beach and colorado are a once every five to ten year drive with the kids. the good places are way too overcrowded. get back to how it used to be.
Clayton Act allows for govt to permanently enjoin a merger if it will "substantally" affect competition. You don't have to prove overall market effect, just a segment. Spirit controlled a big chunk of the low-cost flight market and the judge found that Jet Blue's plan was to basically eliminate Spirit's pricing model, which would have driven up costs for low-cost fliers. Jet Blue argued the merger would make them a better competitor to the Big 4, but the Court ruled that wasn't as important (I think it's a factor, but not a dispositive one) as the effect this would have on the market segment they defined (which is half the battle in an antitrust case). Seems like the legal decision was legit, even if bringing the suit now seems unwise.https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/2049912663665164358?s=46
Lawyers or anyone that knows. What was the reasoning for blocking the merger with Jet Blue? Or is the answer Elizabeth Warren is an idiot?
https://twitter.com/senwarren/status/1765190540427935859?s=46
@bradstevens @co-hoosier can either of you explain why the merger was denied and the rationale for it?
By the way, in the decision, the court noted that Spirit drives down the costs of all trips into places they go--it has been dubbed "the Spirit effect."
Fuel prices now were probably the straw that broke the camel's back, but the notion that Trump alone buried Spirit is pure TDS--they filed for Ch. 11 in 2024 during Biden's term and were in deep, deep financial trouble with their bonds at junk bond status:
https://legalclarity.org/doj-jetblue-spirit-merger-the-antitrust-ruling/
And yes, I've litigated antitrust cases, although it's not my primary area. Getting ready to file/join one within the next week, in fact, involving the card grading services. Any of you out there use these services a lot, send me a DM. Would love to hear your story.
And the poors can drive the way they have since time and memorial.
You live in the lower midwest and want mountains or water. you go to the ozarks and gatlinburg. upper midwest. michigan. that's it. the beach and colorado are a once every five to ten year drive with the kids. the good places are way too overcrowded. get back to how it used to be.
Lol. That’s ironic. I’m waiting to deboard my flight at Midway coming back from Denver as I type this. Fat ass in the middle seat is spilling over onto me.
Hence the frustration.
This tells me the main problem spirit had was bad management. For any given flight, there were a limited number of the cheapest seats, and once taken only the next lowest price was available. the final seats were cheaper than the big airlines but still pretty expensive.And yet the flights I flew on were all filled. in other words, they could’ve raised their prices subtly and increase their gross income significantly. Ask any of their customers and they would say, yes, I would prefer to pay a little bit more and not lose spirit Airlines.
Stupid management. It’s OK to copy the business model of other cheap airlines, but you still have to think and be smart and react and respond.
Clayton Act allows for govt to permanently enjoin a merger if it will "substantally" affect competition. You don't have to prove overall market effect, just a segment. Spirit controlled a big chunk of the low-cost flight market and the judge found that Jet Blue's plan was to basically eliminate Spirit's pricing model, which would have driven up costs for low-cost fliers. Jet Blue argued the merger would make them a better competitor to the Big 4, but the Court ruled that wasn't as important (I think it's a factor, but not a dispositive one) as the effect this would have on the market segment they defined (which is half the battle in an antitrust case). Seems like the legal decision was legit, even if bringing the suit now seems unwise.https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/2049912663665164358?s=46
Lawyers or anyone that knows. What was the reasoning for blocking the merger with Jet Blue? Or is the answer Elizabeth Warren is an idiot?
https://twitter.com/senwarren/status/1765190540427935859?s=46
@bradstevens @co-hoosier can either of you explain why the merger was denied and the rationale for it?
By the way, in the decision, the court noted that Spirit drives down the costs of all trips into places they go--it has been dubbed "the Spirit effect."
Fuel prices now were probably the straw that broke the camel's back, but the notion that Trump alone buried Spirit is pure TDS--they filed for Ch. 11 in 2024 during Biden's term and were in deep, deep financial trouble with their bonds at junk bond status:
https://legalclarity.org/doj-jetblue-spirit-merger-the-antitrust-ruling/
And yes, I've litigated antitrust cases, although it's not my primary area. Getting ready to file/join one within the next week, in fact, involving the card grading services. Any of you out there use these services a lot, send me a DM. Would love to hear your story.
PSA is such a scam.
They've priced out so many people and the wait time is absolutely insane. I haven't submitted in I don't know how long, but I know people are waiting several months to get their stuff back.
The internet is so funny
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but your best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying "that was f***ing awesome"
This is wonderful news. Air travel is far too widely available. There needs to be about half the number of domestic air travelers a year relative to the current number. And half the seats per aircraft to match.
You shouldn’t be able to get a round trip domestic anywhere for less than $1000. There should be a strictly enforced dress code.
And the poors can drive the way they have since time immemorial.
I think driverless vehicles will disrupt more and more flights over the next decade or two. All of sudden 6-12 hours drives become not awful when you can sleep, do work, and not have to drive. Especially, if it's a fraction of the cost.
This is wonderful news. Air travel is far too widely available. There needs to be about half the number of domestic air travelers a year relative to the current number. And half the seats per aircraft to match.
You shouldn’t be able to get a round trip domestic anywhere for less than $1000. There should be a strictly enforced dress code.
And the poors can drive the way they have since time immemorial.
I think driverless vehicles will disrupt more and more flights over the next decade or two. All of sudden 6-12 hours drives become not awful when you can sleep, do work, and not have to drive. Especially, if it's a fraction of the cost.
I doubt our driving laws would ever allow someone to be asleep in a car if they're the "driver" and no way would a car manufacturer okay such a thing. They'd be opening themselves up to a lawsuit the first time someone was killed because of a "malfunction".
This is wonderful news. Air travel is far too widely available. There needs to be about half the number of domestic air travelers a year relative to the current number. And half the seats per aircraft to match.
You shouldn’t be able to get a round trip domestic anywhere for less than $1000. There should be a strictly enforced dress code.
And the poors can drive the way they have since time immemorial.
I think driverless vehicles will disrupt more and more flights over the next decade or two. All of sudden 6-12 hours drives become not awful when you can sleep, do work, and not have to drive. Especially, if it's a fraction of the cost.
I doubt our driving laws would ever allow someone to be asleep in a car if they're the "driver" and no way would a car manufacturer okay such a thing. They'd be opening themselves up to a lawsuit the first time someone was killed because of a "malfunction".
What is it that you think a Waymo is? Why could someone not just own one privately like Google indicates they will some day soon?
What an absurd post.
And the poors can drive the way they have since time and memorial.
You live in the lower midwest and want mountains or water. you go to the ozarks and gatlinburg. upper midwest. michigan. that's it. the beach and colorado are a once every five to ten year drive with the kids. the good places are way too overcrowded. get back to how it used to be.
Lol. That’s ironic. I’m waiting to deboard my flight at Midway coming back from Denver as I type this. Fat ass in the middle seat is spilling over onto me.
Hence the frustration.
They should have templates for people like they do carry-ons. If you can’t fit then you have to buy 2 seats.
This is wonderful news. Air travel is far too widely available. There needs to be about half the number of domestic air travelers a year relative to the current number. And half the seats per aircraft to match.
You shouldn’t be able to get a round trip domestic anywhere for less than $1000. There should be a strictly enforced dress code.
And the poors can drive the way they have since time immemorial.
I think driverless vehicles will disrupt more and more flights over the next decade or two. All of sudden 6-12 hours drives become not awful when you can sleep, do work, and not have to drive. Especially, if it's a fraction of the cost.
I doubt our driving laws would ever allow someone to be asleep in a car if they're the "driver" and no way would a car manufacturer okay such a thing. They'd be opening themselves up to a lawsuit the first time someone was killed because of a "malfunction".
Around 40,000 Americans annually are killed in auto accidents and we still insure humans driving cars. I'll take the other side of the argument. Eventually driverless cars will be so much safer insurance companies will stop insuring cars unless they're driverless. And the costs of insurance for driverless cars will trend towards 0.