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Posted by: @carramrod

I think Jenner is making a mountain out of a molehill.

Or in his case, a molehill out of a mountain...th coffee


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Posted : 04/21/2026 2:28 pm
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Posted by: @jdb

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If Jenner went so far as to have her birth certificate modified, on what basis does State determine that her "sex assigned at birth" is actually male, not female?

Hold the fvck up - on what grounds should you be allowed to modify your birth certificate? Some things are purposely supposed to remain static. If you want to pretend to be something other than what you were at birth, that's fine. But, you don't get to claim you were born as a female if you had male anatomy.

 

I don't see a good reason for allowing someone to change their birth certificate, unless it can be shown to contain a genuine manifest error of some kind. I'm just asking, if the birth certificate was changed, how did State determine Jenner was a male?

 


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Posted : 04/21/2026 7:01 pm
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You had a unique perspective of the woman killed, but to be clear, you are claiming that Jenner intended to kill her or was grossly negligent?

Grossly negligent. 

It sounds like the prosecutors couldn't prove that was the case. I'll defer to the lawyers, but I believe it's a fairly high bar to prove gross negligence, given she (was she Bruce still then?) was found not to have been intoxicated or doing anything other than driving too fast.

 

She was Bruce at the time. Does that mean we should say he? I don't know what the rules are for this.

Anyway, he/she was not speeding, was not intoxicated, and the car in front of her had to hit the brakes because of stopped traffic in front of her, and Jenner reacted too slowly, also braked, but still hit the back of her car, which pushed it into oncoming traffic, and the Hummer that hit her head on is what actually did the job.

Maybe Jenner was distracted, maybe she/he didn't give the traffic in front of her enough space, I don't know. But without inebriation, speeding, or, I dunno, maybe texting or something, it's really tough to get to negligence. That's why the prosecutor didn't file.

FWIW, the investigators said they thought the prosecutor should charge because even though Jenner wasn't speeding, he/she was still going faster than was reasonable considering the road/traffic conditions. I don't know enough about these sorts of things to adjudicate the disagreement between the investigators and prosecutors on this point.

 


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Posted : 04/21/2026 7:10 pm
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Posted by: @ohio-guy

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Why would that have any bearing on her ability to travel? No charges were filed, and obviously there was no conviction.

I'm saying she should have been charged with a felony. 

 

Can she be charged for murdering Bruce Jenner?

 


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Posted : 04/21/2026 8:00 pm
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Posted by: @goat

If Jenner went so far as to have her birth certificate modified, on what basis does State determine that her "sex assigned at birth" is actually male, not female?

Hold the fvck up - on what grounds should you be allowed to modify your birth certificate? Some things are purposely supposed to remain static. If you want to pretend to be something other than what you were at birth, that's fine. But, you don't get to claim you were born as a female if you had male anatomy.

 

I don't see a good reason for allowing someone to change their birth certificate, unless it can be shown to contain a genuine manifest error of some kind. I'm just asking, if the birth certificate was changed, how did State determine Jenner was a male?

 

That I agree with - if there is an error, no problem correcting that, even after the fact if it wasn't caught in time. Good question and I don't know how the State would have legitimacy in that claim.

I just had no idea that you could go back and retroactively change birth records. There seem to be a lot of good reasons why they should not allow that, without an accidental error.


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Posted : 04/21/2026 10:36 pm
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Posted by: @franz-znarf

Posted by: @ohio-guy

Posted by: @unclemark

Why would that have any bearing on her ability to travel? No charges were filed, and obviously there was no conviction.

I'm saying she should have been charged with a felony. 

 

Can she be charged for murdering Bruce Jenner?

 

Euthanasia. Illegal in the US.

 


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Posted : 04/21/2026 10:44 pm
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Posted by: @jdb

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If Jenner went so far as to have her birth certificate modified, on what basis does State determine that her "sex assigned at birth" is actually male, not female?

Hold the fvck up - on what grounds should you be allowed to modify your birth certificate? Some things are purposely supposed to remain static. If you want to pretend to be something other than what you were at birth, that's fine. But, you don't get to claim you were born as a female if you had male anatomy.

 

I don't see a good reason for allowing someone to change their birth certificate, unless it can be shown to contain a genuine manifest error of some kind. I'm just asking, if the birth certificate was changed, how did State determine Jenner was a male?

 

That I agree with - if there is an error, no problem correcting that, even after the fact if it wasn't caught in time. Good question and I don't know how the State would have legitimacy in that claim.

I just had no idea that you could go back and retroactively change birth records. There seem to be a lot of good reasons why they should not allow that, without an accidental error.

I'm with you, mostly. I kind of already knew it was possible, vaguely, probably from some other bullshit I read somewhere else. I was more struck by the Feds telling her she was wrong about her own gender. Even if the feds are correct, I expect them to have some sort of process they have to follow to get to that determination. Even if the result is correct in this particular case, the last thing we ever want is "Federal government" and "arbitrary decision" to get paired together and then normalized.

 


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