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CO. Hoosier
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Tariffs are different from corporate income taxes in at least one important respect: Congress can’t fool around with tariffs like it does with corporate income tax breaks that are mostly the result of lobbying, political pay-offs, rent seeking, and other legal and illegal corruption.  


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Topic starter Posted : 09/20/2026 11:15 am
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@co-hoosier it would be better if Congress were involved. Having a moving target at the whim of Trump’s mood makes doing business very difficult.  Raising corp taxes to 28 percent would be much easier to budget for than tariffs and the endless hassle surrounding same


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Posted : 09/20/2026 11:24 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

@bar-down 

Tariffs are different from corporate income taxes in at least one important respect: Congress can’t fool around with tariffs like it does with corporate income tax breaks that are mostly the result of lobbying, political pay-offs, rent seeking, and other legal and illegal corruption.  

Why can't Congress fool around with tariffs like it does with corporate income tax breaks?  

 


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Posted : 09/20/2026 11:29 am
CO. Hoosier
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I dunno about that.  In my little law firm, we had to pay tax on our rainy-day fund that was carried from one year to the next because it represented income.  Tariffs are a tax on spending, that problem would not exist.  


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Topic starter Posted : 09/20/2026 11:31 am
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@co-hoosier imagine that tax issue every single day.  My company will do over 250 separate independent transactions this year. Business to business. Each with a unique amount to deal with etc.


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Posted : 09/20/2026 11:36 am
CO. Hoosier
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Are you thinking of tax credits if a business hires so many addicts off the street?  Might as well just give the business a check instead of saying some people get a credit on widgets and others don’t. 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/20/2026 11:47 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

But like the American Democratic operative in the Canadian PM’s inner circle, most people don’t recognize the same problems that I do.

Thanks for that entire post. This issue you raised is concerning. 

Another issue I thought of that can conceivably be negatively affected by Trump‘s churlish stance toward the rest of the  is possibly accelerating the BRICS movement. 


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Posted : 09/20/2026 11:57 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Remember  @unclemark started the stupid Trump stuff thread.

BEST THREAD HERE!!!

 


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Posted : 09/20/2026 12:03 pm
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No known cure for paranoia, maestro, you’re on your own. Good luck.


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Posted : 09/20/2026 12:07 pm
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@hhlurker yes. You have it with your unfounded emotional reaction to Trump. He feeds on the weak.  Sorry that’s you. Tweets aren’t scary. Bail project murderers are


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Posted : 09/20/2026 12:22 pm
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Not scared in the slightest. About Dying Dickless Frogman or about bail jumping killers. 

Color me yawning. 


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Posted : 09/20/2026 12:40 pm
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@hhlurker maybe you don't have kids.  maybe you dont live in a city with a ton of blacks and blue leadership. maybe you don't have a kid starting to drive.   you get the luxury to be paranoid about boogeyman trump.  the rest of us in cities have non fiction threats.  that's the thing about today's dems.  most of their decisions are born of ignorance.  

if you want to send my daughter a bullet proof vintage land rover defender i'm sure she'd love it.  make sure it's a 110 not a 90.  she'd want to take her crew out 


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Posted : 09/20/2026 12:43 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier
the Big Beautiful Bill.  Not its contents but the way it was produced and passed.
Okay, this raises a consequence I haven’t touched on: breakdown of order. 

The GOP is traditionally the party of Law and order. Order meaning following the rules. In the US who has traditionally made the rules? White males. Women and minorities often feel disenfranchised by those white male rules. That’s a problem in civil society because if you don’t have buy-in from a certain segment of society then to that degree, you have a breakdown of order.

Along comes white male Donald Trump openly mocking the rules, breaking the rules, getting away with breaking the rules (“I do it because I’m smart”) and he’s setting an example for white males to proudly mock and break or otherwise not follow the rules of (white male) civil society. if some large segment of white males don’t buy in to the given order, then you’ve got a serious problem. We’re not even talking about criminals who clearly don’t buy in.

And then you have paranoid posters blaming it all on the Democrats. Surprise surprise! The Dems stopped following the rules. Who’dathunkit?

 

 


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Posted : 09/20/2026 12:51 pm
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@hhlurker black violent crime destroys cities. it costs us a fortune in direct and indirect costs.  they couldn't name a single thing about trump or follow anything he does.  you're in lala trump obsessed paranoid land.


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Posted : 09/20/2026 12:55 pm
CO. Hoosier
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Maybe you can explain how the due process clause would, or should, be different if a woman wrote it. 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/20/2026 1:15 pm
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