@shooter no they can carve out disabled military etc. the rest is bullshit. get an id and vote in person. if you told these same people walmart had a fifty dollar gift card if you present an id and show up in person 100 percent would. f them. dems want to pander to the laziest globs in our society. it's hickory stupid at every turn with the dems. this iteration is a collection of the dumbest politicians ever to exist. our tolerance should be zero at this point
Why yes, what? My second sentence was missing the word "not" and was supposed to be, "You have any data that it’s not only a small subset? You don’t." You're pushing a narrative which isn't supported by any data. We're a nation of immigrants and we proudly fly the US flag. I do nearly every day from a 24' flagpole. I'm not flying a British or German flag where my ancestors are from. Why are you against legal immigration, really?Why yes, as a matter of fact we know how many rioters were arrested on Jan 6, 1575, with the FBI estimating 2000 participants. So, what kind of data do you have to confirm its a “very small subset” of illegals whose allegiance lies with their country of origin?
The FBI estimates that 2000 to 2500 of the rioters entered the Capitol building, there were thousands more outside the building, some manning scaffolds while they chanted "HANG MIKE PENCE!" Proud moment for you? It's an embarrassing moment for Republicans and the country.
I don’t get embarrassed by the actions of others, but I’ll take this
Over this
Any day…
So, you're basing your entire premise on demonstrations/riots of radicals? Actually those pictures are both of radicals and I don't "take" either of them as acceptable. They're groups of unpatriotic radicals.Why yes, what? My second sentence was missing the word "not" and was supposed to be, "You have any data that it’s not only a small subset? You don’t." You're pushing a narrative which isn't supported by any data. We're a nation of immigrants and we proudly fly the US flag. I do nearly every day from a 24' flagpole. I'm not flying a British or German flag where my ancestors are from. Why are you against legal immigration, really?Why yes, as a matter of fact we know how many rioters were arrested on Jan 6, 1575, with the FBI estimating 2000 participants. So, what kind of data do you have to confirm its a “very small subset” of illegals whose allegiance lies with their country of origin?
The FBI estimates that 2000 to 2500 of the rioters entered the Capitol building, there were thousands more outside the building, some manning scaffolds while they chanted "HANG MIKE PENCE!" Proud moment for you? It's an embarrassing moment for Republicans and the country.
I don’t get embarrassed by the actions of others, but I’ll take this
Over this
Any day…
You’re exhausting, I don’t know one person who wants legal voters off tge voting rolls.
Who has the burden of proof? Do I have to prove I'm eligible, or do you have to prove I'm not?
So, you're basing your entire premise on demonstrations/riots of radicals? Actually those pictures are both of radicals and I don't "take" either of them as acceptable. They're groups of unpatriotic radicals.Why yes, what? My second sentence was missing the word "not" and was supposed to be, "You have any data that it’s not only a small subset? You don’t." You're pushing a narrative which isn't supported by any data. We're a nation of immigrants and we proudly fly the US flag. I do nearly every day from a 24' flagpole. I'm not flying a British or German flag where my ancestors are from. Why are you against legal immigration, really?Why yes, as a matter of fact we know how many rioters were arrested on Jan 6, 1575, with the FBI estimating 2000 participants. So, what kind of data do you have to confirm its a “very small subset” of illegals whose allegiance lies with their country of origin?
The FBI estimates that 2000 to 2500 of the rioters entered the Capitol building, there were thousands more outside the building, some manning scaffolds while they chanted "HANG MIKE PENCE!" Proud moment for you? It's an embarrassing moment for Republicans and the country.
I don’t get embarrassed by the actions of others, but I’ll take this
Over this
Any day…
Have you followed the current situation in parts of Britain?
Why yes, what? My second sentence was missing the word "not" and was supposed to be, "You have any data that it’s not only a small subset? You don’t." You're pushing a narrative which isn't supported by any data. We're a nation of immigrants and we proudly fly the US flag. I do nearly every day from a 24' flagpole. I'm not flying a British or German flag where my ancestors are from. Why are you against legal immigration, really?Why yes, as a matter of fact we know how many rioters were arrested on Jan 6, 1575, with the FBI estimating 2000 participants. So, what kind of data do you have to confirm its a “very small subset” of illegals whose allegiance lies with their country of origin?
The FBI estimates that 2000 to 2500 of the rioters entered the Capitol building, there were thousands more outside the building, some manning scaffolds while they chanted "HANG MIKE PENCE!" Proud moment for you? It's an embarrassing moment for Republicans and the country.
I don’t get embarrassed by the actions of others, but I’ll take this
Over this
Any day…
damn, you must have really hate Mike Pence
So, you're basing your entire premise on demonstrations/riots of radicals? Actually those pictures are both of radicals and I don't "take" either of them as acceptable. They're groups of unpatriotic radicals.Why yes, what? My second sentence was missing the word "not" and was supposed to be, "You have any data that it’s not only a small subset? You don’t." You're pushing a narrative which isn't supported by any data. We're a nation of immigrants and we proudly fly the US flag. I do nearly every day from a 24' flagpole. I'm not flying a British or German flag where my ancestors are from. Why are you against legal immigration, really?Why yes, as a matter of fact we know how many rioters were arrested on Jan 6, 1575, with the FBI estimating 2000 participants. So, what kind of data do you have to confirm its a “very small subset” of illegals whose allegiance lies with their country of origin?
The FBI estimates that 2000 to 2500 of the rioters entered the Capitol building, there were thousands more outside the building, some manning scaffolds while they chanted "HANG MIKE PENCE!" Proud moment for you? It's an embarrassing moment for Republicans and the country.
I don’t get embarrassed by the actions of others, but I’ll take this
Over this
Any day…
Both are radicals, but only one is unpatriotic. The Jan 6 crowd is inarguably patriotic, you just don’t like how they expressed it. I think you’re conflating radical & fringe. Large segments of immigrant groups are radicals if you combine all groups/origins.
”[I]narguably patriotic”? Ridiculous. There is nothing patriotic about rioting at the Capitol, assaulting the police and trying to disrupt the certification of a national election. Republicans and even President Trump rightfully denounced the rioting and those that committed violence initially until MAGA radicals, who knew it was wrong, decided to flip the narrative with constant lies and disinformation. It will forever be a black mark on the history of the party - especially on the MAGA movement. If you honestly think that was a display of patriotism, you need to do some self reflection because it was not. That was an unpatriotic mob. Period.Both are radicals, but only one is unpatriotic. The Jan 6 crowd is inarguably patriotic, you just don’t like how they expressed it. I think you’re conflating radical & fringe. Large segments of immigrant groups are radicals if you combine all groups/origins.
@aloha-hoosier I disagree with you. It was wrong but in those redne Ks what they thought they were doing was indeed patriotic. I mean damn it wasn’t their local Walmart. It was the Capitol. You just have to remain aware that these were not smart people.
that said we have also learned that the Dems are amoral and will do anything to win. They stripped voters of an opportunity to vote and concealed the condition of the president in an effort to trick the American voter. It’s no stretch to believe they would cheat at an election. They just tried. But a rational person of which the j6 crew were not would know it couldn’t be orchestrated as they were led to believe in 20
I wholeheartedly agree they weren’t smart people and thinking what they were doing was patriotic doesn’t make it so. It wouldn’t make me a patriotic bank robber if I robbed a bank while waving the US flag and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.@aloha-hoosier I disagree with you. It was wrong but in those redne Ks what they thought they were doing was indeed patriotic. I mean damn it wasn’t their local Walmart. It was the Capitol. You just have to remain aware that these were not smart people.
that said we have also learned that the Dems are amoral and will do anything to win. They stripped voters of an opportunity to vote and concealed the condition of the president in an effort to trick the American voter. It’s no stretch to believe they would cheat at an election. They just tried. But a rational person of which the j6 crew were not would know it couldn’t be orchestrated as they were led to believe in 20
It's an interesting issue, and I don't think it's clear cut.”[I]narguably patriotic”? Ridiculous. There is nothing patriotic about rioting at the Capitol, assaulting the police and trying to disrupt the certification of a national election. Republicans and even President Trump rightfully denounced the rioting and those that committed violence initially until MAGA radicals, who knew it was wrong, decided to flip the narrative with constant lies and disinformation. It will forever be a black mark on the history of the party - especially on the MAGA movement. If you honestly think that was a display of patriotism, you need to do some self reflection because it was not. That was an unpatriotic mob. Period.Both are radicals, but only one is unpatriotic. The Jan 6 crowd is inarguably patriotic, you just don’t like how they expressed it. I think you’re conflating radical & fringe. Large segments of immigrant groups are radicals if you combine all groups/origins.
I think quite a few, probably most, of those rioting on Jan 6 subjectively believed the election was being stolen and wanted to "save America." If you believe that some nefarious group is stealing your democracy, wouldn't a patriot fight to protect or save it? I think a lot of people would say yes, that's exactly what you should do.
Were they mistaken? Yes. Did Trump plant the seed and continue to promote the idea that festered in a percentage of his MAGA base? Yes. Was the whole event embarrassing and a stain on our politics? Yes. We are in complete agreement there.
But I think one can be a patriot and a moron and/or asshole, and acting out of patriotism doesn't insulate you from being in the wrong.
Edit: McM beat me to it.
@aloha-hoosier Having the whole interior of the Georgia house painted. Only Fernando, the crew (six total painters) leader, speaks passable English. Now, I imagine there will be a similar occurrence as a tree fell on the roof of our house in Cincinnati. I had to return a few days later, after our agent worked out the details for the tree removal and tarping. (An invoice of $25,411.32 for the tree removal has me feeling a little homicidal.) Structural engineer coming tomorrow to determine the damage so roofers can bid. If the experience of the divorcing couple down the street who had their roof replaced three days ago is representative we’ll have another Mexican extravaganza and fiesta going on while the work is done. Communication will be problematic.
I’m hopeful that everybody is legal but I wouldn’t be surprised if fewer than 50% meet that standard.
At least they won’t be driving semis, making illegal turns and killing people on the highways . . . .
Can anyone here play this game?
@univee2 we missed you!! Damn that is no good. Was hoping your absence was due to a mountain lion fight in the ga woods or something