@bradstevens how you gonna dislike my post about how I want to collapse public schools and then complain about schools being closed during covid?
You should be able to sue, or you should be able to get a recovery? Because you can do the second and now have a better chance of recovery than you would in a typical lawsuit.If the vax harms me I should be able to sue.
@dbmhoosier Well the difference being that I actually care about other people. Those whose dumb a$$ parents will not get them vaccinated and the child will suffer.
Says the poster who thinks pumping permanent life altering hormones into mush-brained adolescents is a caring gesture.
Well, it would violate the Constitution in at least two ways, so hopefully you are right and we never do that.to pull those would be insane
That’s the point. We are not pulling any vaccine. That said, I think a case can be made for requiring polio vaccinations for school because of long term consequences. I also think we should be asking hard questions about the general idea of mandates.
In thinking about this issue this morning, what would you think of subjecting every black HS student in , say, Chicago, St,L. Baltimore to a GSR screening every Monday and those who test positive get a home visit. That would be more beneficial than some vaccine mandates. But we would never do that.
They work in a probabalistic way.@dbmhoosier That is so dumb. Have you ever had an original thought? If you get an abortion, it’s not suddenly going to force other people to get an abortion. If you don’t get a vaccine, you absolutely can give other people a deadly disease. See the difference?
Nope. You shouldn't care if I'm vaccinated or not as you are so you're protected. They work, right?
Well, it would violate the Constitution in at least two ways, so hopefully you are right and we never do that.
Which two ways? I don’t think we could, or would, do it because of politics. But do you think it violates equal protection, privacy, or something?
4th and 14th Amendments.Well, it would violate the Constitution in at least two ways, so hopefully you are right and we never do that.
Which two ways? I don’t think we could, or would, do it because of politics. But do you think it violates equal protection, privacy, or something?
4th and 14th Amendments.
The Colorado supremes held that the 4th won’t apply if the search is pursuant to an adopted “safety plan” . Technology might trump this issue anyway. I don’t think it will be long before a scanner could identify GSR without a swab.
As for the 14th, many claim that juvenile gun crime is a public health issue. If the remedial measures is tied to lowering youth gunfire, I think it could pass muster.
@dbmhoosier https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1964157343987364190?t=Iu1I0nAUj5LwjGaPD96X6Q&s=19
Which is it?
A safety plan refers to plans that prevent future crimes, not detecting/punishing a past one. SCOTUS has ruled on this. What you are talking about is to detect past crimes. If you wanted to do a screening for explosives, like they do with TSA, you could probably do that.4th and 14th Amendments.
The Colorado supremes held that the 4th won’t apply if the search is pursuant to an adopted “safety plan” . Technology might trump this issue anyway. I don’t think it will be long before a scanner could identify GSR without a swab.
As for the 14th, many claim that juvenile gun crime is a public health issue. If the remedial measures is tied to lowering youth gunfire, I think it could pass muster.
No way in a million years a public health issue warrants targeting only black youth. That's as clean a violation of equal protection as there is. Nor is doing a GSR screening a "remedial" measure.
We are burying more and more black kids from gunfire. The problem in big cities is overwhelmingly a black problem. If any other disease or condition produced as much death and mayhem among black youth as gunfire, we’d be all over it. We can’t deal with this by pretending it’s a problem equally distributed between black and whites. We’ve gotta stop being cowards when it comes to race. I think good arguments can be advanced to establish a non-discriminatory purpose in focusing remedial measures in the black neighborhoods, schools, and students.
As far as GSR testing is concerned, I don’t agree it’s about law enforcement instead of crime prevention. If a kid has a positive GSR test, that very likely means he has illegal access to a gun which should alert authorities.
@co-hoosier over 50 percent of murders are committed by blacks with the majority by black males. black males make up about 3 percent of the population. pretty insane
@dbmhoosier Thymersorol was removed in 2000 but even at that studies haven't found issues with it
@co-hoosier over 50 percent of murders are committed by blacks with the majority by black males. black males make up about 3 percent of the population. pretty insane
I remember when Biden said that white supremacy is the greatest threat our country faces lol