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dbmhoosier
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Surprised this isn’t being talked about more.  Blame that snake McConnell.

Fvcking Republicans.


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Posted : 11/13/2025 8:02 pm
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Surprised this isn’t being talked about more.  Blame that snake McConnell.

Fvcking Republicans.

The Dems voted for it too.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 11/13/2025 8:06 pm
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fck that entire motherfcking industry.  burn it down.


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Posted : 11/13/2025 8:06 pm
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Posted by: @mcm666

fck that entire motherfcking industry.  burn it down.

You're talking about Washington and the politicians, right?

 


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Topic starter Posted : 11/13/2025 8:10 pm
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@dbmhoosier no


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Posted : 11/13/2025 8:11 pm
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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Surprised this isn’t being talked about more.  Blame that snake McConnell.

Fvcking Republicans.

The Dems voted for it too.

 

Only a handful of them.

 


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Posted : 11/13/2025 9:12 pm
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Posted by: @mcm666

fck that entire motherfcking industry.  burn it down.

If you have not yet visited the New Buffalo, Michigan dispensaries,  better plan the trip soon, before the new federal laws hit.

I was told I'd be blown away...and the entire environment is crazy up there. There is so much competition in that small area that they are literally giving products away.

The investment in growing, packaging, real estate and agriculture is large, in the tens of $Millions...if not more.

Michigan, Oregon,  Illinois (huge taxation), and others will not surrender without a fight.

 


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Posted : 11/14/2025 8:57 am
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Surprised this isn’t being talked about more.  Blame that snake McConnell.

Fvcking Republicans.

The Dems voted for it too.

 

Only a handful of them.

 

The could've stopped it.  When the shutdown was going on Dems kept blaming Republicans because they had the majority even though they needed 60 votes.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 11/14/2025 9:00 am
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Posted by: @qparker

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fck that entire motherfcking industry.  burn it down.

If you have not yet visited the New Buffalo, Michigan dispensaries,  better plan the trip soon, before the new federal laws hit.

I was told I'd be blown away...and the entire environment is crazy up there. There is so much competition in that small area that they are literally giving products away.

The investment in growing, packaging, real estate and agriculture is large, in the tens of $Millions...if no more.

Michigan, Oregon,  Illinois (huge taxation), and others will not surrender without a fight.

 

This isn't banning marijuana.  It's a ban on CBDs with a little THC and that Delta 8 shit.  At least from what I understand.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 11/14/2025 9:01 am
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@qparker yes sir. People will stand to lose a lot of money. Many already have


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Posted : 11/14/2025 10:11 am
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Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @mcm666

fck that entire motherfcking industry.  burn it down.

If you have not yet visited the New Buffalo, Michigan dispensaries,  better plan the trip soon, before the new federal laws hit.

I was told I'd be blown away...and the entire environment is crazy up there. There is so much competition in that small area that they are literally giving products away.

The investment in growing, packaging, real estate and agriculture is large, in the tens of $Millions...if no more.

Michigan, Oregon,  Illinois (huge taxation), and others will not surrender without a fight.

 

This isn't banning marijuana.  It's a ban on CBDs with a little THC and that Delta 8 shit.  At least from what I understand.

 

The Industry lobbyists are saying this would bring about significant damages to all related business. 

 If there is such an entity as the 'hemp' business, distinguished from the 'herb' business, they would benefit from more logical  regulation.

Revenues from value-added products, such as thc vapes must be stratospheric.

 Dispensaries in NB are literally giving bulk pot away.....

 


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Posted : 11/14/2025 10:12 am
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@dbmhoosier looks like more than that


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Posted : 11/14/2025 10:28 am
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@qparker the giving it away has a lot of factors. With gummies it is multi state operators selling at a loss to dispensaries to monopolize shelf space and push out independents.  Also demand had subsided.  The novelty is over. It’s down to consistent users


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Posted : 11/14/2025 10:56 am
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@dbmhoosier looks like more than that

Should be a win for you...

Overview of the Bill and Hemp ProvisionOn November 12, 2025, President Donald Trump signed into law a bipartisan spending package (H.R. 5371, part of a "minibus" appropriations bill) that ended the longest U.S. government shutdown in history—lasting 41 days since November 1. The bill funds key federal agencies, including Agriculture, through January 30, 2026. Tucked into the Agriculture Appropriations section is Section 781, a controversial provision that significantly tightens federal regulations on hemp-derived products. This provision redefines and restricts "industrial hemp" under the 2018 Farm Bill, effectively closing a long-standing loophole that allowed intoxicating cannabinoids (like Delta-8 and Delta-10 THC) to be produced and sold from hemp plants with ≤0.3% Delta-9 THC.Key details of the provision:New THC Threshold: Bans the sale of hemp-derived products containing more than 0.4 milligrams of total THC per container (e.g., per serving or package). This applies nationwide, overriding many state laws.

Scope: Targets intoxicating products like gummies, beverages, vapes, edibles, tinctures, and flower buds that mimic marijuana's effects. Non-intoxicating CBD (for wellness, like balms or oils) and industrial hemp for fiber, textiles, or animal feed are preserved.

Timeline: Takes effect 365 days after signing (November 12, 2026), giving the industry a one-year grace period to adapt.

Rationale: Supported by 39 state attorneys general, anti-cannabis groups, and parts of the marijuana industry, who argued the 2018 loophole enabled unregulated, high-potency products to flood gas stations, online marketplaces, and corner stores without FDA oversight. It addresses public health concerns, including over 10,000 Delta-8 exposure cases reported to poison centers from 2021–2025, many involving children.

The provision passed despite opposition from hemp advocates and some Republicans (e.g., Sens. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz), who called it an "industry-killing overreach" that overrides state rights and harms farmers. Paul attempted (and failed) to strip it via amendment.Direct Impact on the Hemp IndustryThe hemp sector, legalized federally in 2018, has grown into a $28–30 billion market, employing over 300,000 people and serving as a lifeline for farmers in states like Kentucky and Texas. The provision is projected to:Eliminate 95% of Retail Products: Most consumer hemp items exceed the 0.4 mg total THC limit, rendering them illegal. Executives estimate billions in lost revenue, with companies like Cornbread Hemp facing 100% product obsolescence.

Trigger Layoffs and Closures: Tens of thousands of businesses (including 8,000+ retailers in Texas alone) face production halts, inventory write-offs, and job cuts. Hemp growers can still cultivate for non-intoxicating uses, but processors and manufacturers warn of "extinction-level" disruption.

Boost Black Market Risks: Demand for affordable THC alternatives won't vanish—studies show rising consumer shifts from alcohol to cannabis-like products. Without regulated options, experts predict a surge in untaxed, untested black-market sales.

Industry groups like the U.S. Hemp Roundtable are mobilizing grassroots lobbying for repeal or modification, potentially via the 2025 Farm Bill reauthorization.Broader Impact on the Marijuana IndustryWhile the provision doesn't directly alter marijuana's federal Schedule I status (illegal nationwide), it ripples through the $40+ billion state-legal cannabis sector in profound ways—mostly positive for established players, but with caveats:Positive EffectsReduced Competition: Hemp-derived THC products have undercut marijuana by offering cheaper, federally "legal" highs (e.g., Delta-8 vapes at gas stations vs. taxed dispensary flower). Closing the loophole funnels consumers back to state-regulated markets, potentially boosting sales by 10–20% in the short term. The American Trade Association for Cannabis and Hemp (ATACH) hailed it as "clarifying Congress's 2018 intent."

Regulatory Alignment: It levels the playing field for licensed marijuana operators, who face strict state taxes (up to 37%), age checks, and testing. Hemp's "wild west" sales eroded these advantages, frustrating dispensaries in 40+ states with legal programs.

Political Momentum: The ban aligns with pressure from marijuana industry lobbyists and governors (e.g., Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who celebrated it as protecting youth from "dangerous drugs"). It could accelerate federal reforms, like Trump's signaled push to reschedule marijuana to Schedule III (enabling banking and research).

Negative or Neutral EffectsSupply Chain Disruptions: Some multistate operators (e.g., Curaleaf) sell both marijuana and hemp lines; the ban forces pivots, risking short-term revenue dips and compliance costs.

No Federal Legalization Boost: The bill doesn't advance broader cannabis reform. Hemp's demise might divert attention from descheduling efforts, especially if black-market growth strains state enforcement.

State Variations: In prohibition states (e.g., Idaho), the ban removes a gray-market option, potentially increasing illegal marijuana trafficking without creating legal alternatives.

Aspect

Hemp Industry Impact

Marijuana Industry Impact

Market Size

95% contraction ($26B+ loss)

Potential 10–20% sales gain via reduced competition

Jobs

300K+ at risk (layoffs, closures)

Net positive; shifts workers to licensed roles

Consumer Access

Severely restricted (intoxicating products banned)

Improved in legal states; black-market risk elsewhere

Regulation

Federal override of states; FDA enforcement ramps up

Strengthens state models; aids federal rescheduling push

Timeline

Grace period ends Nov. 2026

Immediate competitive edge; long-term reform uncertain

In summary, the hemp provision safeguards public health and bolsters the regulated marijuana sector by eliminating a disruptive loophole, but at the cost of decimating a nascent $28 billion industry. Expect legal challenges, lobbying battles, and possible tweaks in upcoming Farm Bill talks. For marijuana stakeholders, it's a net win—driving consolidation and consumer migration—but one that underscores the patchwork of U.S. cannabis policy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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