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Zeke4ahs
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https://www.onceasoldier.org/trumps-record-on-veterans/
Here’s a good start 


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Posted : 09/16/2025 10:19 pm
Zeke4ahs
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-files-15-billion-defamation-suit-new-york/story?id=125619941  Trump files lawsuit against The NY Times. I’d love to know how many lawsuits he’s filed as President? Can you think of any other Presidents who have filed ANY? Maybe I just didn’t know about them but he sure keeps his attorneys busy. Between all the lawsuits against him, and all the suits he files.  Lawyers are probably his biggest group of employees. Helping the economy…..


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Posted : 09/16/2025 10:23 pm
CarRamRod's avatar
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@zeke4ahs I post actual legislation Trump got passed, reforms to the VA, and patient satisfaction metrics and you reply with some guys blog? 

Are you actually going to argue that Tom Hanks has done more for veterans than Trump? Does Tom Hanks have the ability to pass legislation to that purpose? Control trillions in spending to that purpose? 

Trump hatred can lead people to argue some extremely nonsensical things.


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Posted : 09/16/2025 11:00 pm
Boogie's avatar
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https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1968122428313555031

 

Looking at using RICO because people are protesting.  This administration, man.


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Posted : 09/17/2025 8:48 am
Zeke4ahs
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@carramrod Some guys’ blog who names all the ways Trump has hurt veterans….


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Posted : 09/17/2025 11:35 am
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@zeke4ahs it’s one guys opinion that recycles a bunch of the same lame innuendo. Trump did a lot of good work veterans, record VA satisfaction and strong electoral support from the Veteran community. Biden did great work as well, for that matter. 

Both did much more than Tom Fuckin’ Hanks. Get serious. 


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Posted : 09/17/2025 11:46 am
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BradStevens
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Posted by: @unclemark

Like all the law firms?

I guess if left-wing media keep repeating the lie long enough, it just becomes a fact to their followers.  Just like MAGA and right-wing media.  **sigh**

 


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Posted : 09/17/2025 12:16 pm
BradStevens
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Posted by: @zeke4ahs

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-files-15-billion-defamation-suit-new-york/story?id=125619941  Trump files lawsuit against The NY Times. I’d love to know how many lawsuits he’s filed as President? Can you think of any other Presidents who have filed ANY? Maybe I just didn’t know about them but he sure keeps his attorneys busy. Between all the lawsuits against him, and all the suits he files.  Lawyers are probably his biggest group of employees. Helping the economy…..

Maybe for the opposing lawyers. From what I've heard, he's stiffed quite a few of his own.  

 


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Posted : 09/17/2025 12:20 pm
UncleMark
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @unclemark

Like all the law firms?

I guess if left-wing media keep repeating the lie long enough, it just becomes a fact to their followers.  Just like MAGA and right-wing media.  **sigh**

 

You deny that a number of firms have rolled over? Trump claims they have .

 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/17/2025 12:27 pm
BradStevens
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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @unclemark

Like all the law firms?

I guess if left-wing media keep repeating the lie long enough, it just becomes a fact to their followers.  Just like MAGA and right-wing media.  **sigh**

 

You deny that a number of firms have rolled over? Trump claims they have .

 

We've been through this before.  Not "all" firms settled, and many of those that did settle, did so in all likelihood because they had broken the law in their internal DEI practices--from hiring to holding struggle sessions for white people. I laid this all out in a series of posts with you and Aloha, showing how nearly every single one (maybe all, I can't remember) had a claim against them for their DEI programs in addition to the security clearance claims. Law firms have a lot of legitimate legal exposure due to those programs.  

You also latched onto a "could" in some NYT or some such report and ran with the notion that Trump was going to exclude lawyers from Article III federal courthouses via an Executive Order as a reason these firms would "roll over."  Even after it was pointed out to you how that could not happen, you stubbornly refused to admit you were wrong. 

And relying on a Trump claim for truth?  Stop trolling.  

Further, as the final nail in the coffin of this fantasy, it looks like many of those firms that "rolled over" are now actively involved in suing the admin.  Some "roll over."

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/some-law-firms-that-cut-deals-with-trump-take-cases-opposing-his-administration-2025-09-16/

I've been litigating against BigLaw for 25 years now. I have no love lost for them. But this ridiculous narrative that Jamie Raskin et al. started that BigLaw is now in Trump's pocket is laughably stupid and only true partisan wackos are lapping it up.  Unfortunately, "true partisan wackos" now compromise, I'm guessing, hundreds of millions of Americans.  

 


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Posted : 09/17/2025 3:08 pm
UncleMark
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Posted by: @unclemark

You deny that a number of firms have rolled over? Trump claims they have .

Posted by: @bradstevens

We’ve been through this before.  Not “all” firms settled, and many of those that did settle, did so in all likelihood because they had broken the law in their internal DEI practices–from hiring to holding struggle sessions for white people.

Google AI has a different take on it:

what law firms have "knuckled under" to Trump's demands

 

AI Overview
 
 
 
A number of prominent U.S. law firms have settled with the Trump administration in 2025 to avoid sanctions for representing clients seen as his political opponents

. In exchange for dropping government actions against them, the firms pledged to provide millions of dollars in pro bono legal services for causes favored by the administration. Critics describe these agreements as "capitulating" or "knuckling under" to pressure from the White House. 

 
Nine firms that settled with the Trump administration
The following firms reached agreements with the Trump administration between March and April 2025, according to news reports and White House statements: 
 
  • Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison: Reached a deal in March to provide $40 million in free legal aid after being targeted with an executive order.
  • Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom: Announced a $100 million pro bono commitment in March to avoid being targeted with an executive order.
  • Willkie Farr & Gallagher: Agreed to provide $100 million in pro bono work and to implement "merit-based" hiring in a preemptive settlement.
  • Milbank LLP: Committed to $100 million in pro bono legal services in a deal reached to avoid an executive order.
  • A&O Shearman: Was among a group of firms that reached an agreement in April. The firm committed $125 million in pro bono services.
  • Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft: Also announced a settlement in April, including a $100 million pro bono commitment.
  • Kirkland & Ellis: Reached a deal in April to provide $125 million in pro bono legal services.
  • Latham & Watkins: Agreed in April to provide $125 million in pro bono services.
  • Simpson Thacher & Bartlett: Pledged $125 million in pro bono services in April as part of its agreement. 
  •  
Backlash and internal strife
The settlements caused significant controversy in the legal community. The deals were widely criticized by legal ethics experts, bar associations, and judges, who warned they set a dangerous precedent for government retaliation against lawyers. Inside the settling firms, some lawyers and associates quit their jobs in protest. 
 
Some clients also expressed reservations or moved business away from the firms that settled. For example, after Latham & Watkins made a deal, a major client, Microsoft, temporarily removed it from its list of preferred firms. 
 
What the firms received in return
In exchange for their concessions, the firms received assurances from the White House: 
 
  • Executive orders were rescinded or not issued against them.
  • Federal investigations into their hiring practices, specifically regarding diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives, were ended.
  • Restrictions on attorneys' security clearances and access to federal buildings were removed.
  • The deals also helped them maintain their ability to handle work for corporate clients with federal contracts. 
  •  
Firms that fought back
Not all targeted firms settled. A number of firms chose to fight the administration in court, arguing that the executive orders were unconstitutional and retaliatory. These firms include: 
 
  • Perkins Coie
  • Jenner & Block
  • WilmerHale
  • Susman Godfrey 
  •  
As of September 2025, judges have temporarily blocked or struck down the executive orders against these firms. Some clients have reportedly rewarded their resolve by shifting new business to them. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/17/2025 3:36 pm
Aloha Hoosier's avatar
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @unclemark

Like all the law firms?

I guess if left-wing media keep repeating the lie long enough, it just becomes a fact to their followers.  Just like MAGA and right-wing media.  **sigh**

 

You deny that a number of firms have rolled over? Trump claims they have .

 

We've been through this before.  Not "all" firms settled, and many of those that did settle, did so in all likelihood because they had broken the law in their internal DEI practices--from hiring to holding struggle sessions for white people. I laid this all out in a series of posts with you and Aloha, showing how nearly every single one (maybe all, I can't remember) had a claim against them for their DEI programs in addition to the security clearance claims. Law firms have a lot of legitimate legal exposure due to those programs.  

You also latched onto a "could" in some NYT or some such report and ran with the notion that Trump was going to exclude lawyers from Article III federal courthouses via an Executive Order as a reason these firms would "roll over."  Even after it was pointed out to you how that could not happen, you stubbornly refused to admit you were wrong. 

And relying on a Trump claim for truth?  Stop trolling.  

Further, as the final nail in the coffin of this fantasy, it looks like many of those firms that "rolled over" are now actively involved in suing the admin.  Some "roll over."

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/some-law-firms-that-cut-deals-with-trump-take-cases-opposing-his-administration-2025-09-16/

I've been litigating against BigLaw for 25 years now. I have no love lost for them. But this ridiculous narrative that Jamie Raskin et al. started that BigLaw is now in Trump's pocket is laughably stupid and only true partisan wackos are lapping it up.  Unfortunately, "true partisan wackos" now compromise, I'm guessing, hundreds of millions of Americans.  

 

Sorry, you were wrong on that one. Most of these law firms did roll over. I remain surprised that you don't see that.

 


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Posted : 09/17/2025 10:19 pm
Aloha Hoosier's avatar
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How about this for off the wall? He said this after blowing up the second Venezuelan "drug boat."

“What’s illegal are the drugs that were on the boat, and the drugs that are being sent into our country, and the fact that 300 million people died last year from drugs, that’s what’s illegal.”

We have less than 350 million US citizens. Place does look emptier lately . . . or not.


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Posted : 09/17/2025 10:21 pm
UncleMark
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

How about this for off the wall? He said this after blowing up the second Venezuelan "drug boat."

“What’s illegal are the drugs that were on the boat, and the drugs that are being sent into our country, and the fact that 300 million people died last year from drugs, that’s what’s illegal.”

We have less than 350 million US citizens. Place does look emptier lately . . . or not.

This is the verbal/numerical version of a typo, so I don't concern myself with it. But Trump's propensity to pull numbers out of his ass is unbelievable.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/18/2025 8:26 am
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BradStevens
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @unclemark

Like all the law firms?

I guess if left-wing media keep repeating the lie long enough, it just becomes a fact to their followers.  Just like MAGA and right-wing media.  **sigh**

 

You deny that a number of firms have rolled over? Trump claims they have .

 

We've been through this before.  Not "all" firms settled, and many of those that did settle, did so in all likelihood because they had broken the law in their internal DEI practices--from hiring to holding struggle sessions for white people. I laid this all out in a series of posts with you and Aloha, showing how nearly every single one (maybe all, I can't remember) had a claim against them for their DEI programs in addition to the security clearance claims. Law firms have a lot of legitimate legal exposure due to those programs.  

You also latched onto a "could" in some NYT or some such report and ran with the notion that Trump was going to exclude lawyers from Article III federal courthouses via an Executive Order as a reason these firms would "roll over."  Even after it was pointed out to you how that could not happen, you stubbornly refused to admit you were wrong. 

And relying on a Trump claim for truth?  Stop trolling.  

Further, as the final nail in the coffin of this fantasy, it looks like many of those firms that "rolled over" are now actively involved in suing the admin.  Some "roll over."

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/some-law-firms-that-cut-deals-with-trump-take-cases-opposing-his-administration-2025-09-16/

I've been litigating against BigLaw for 25 years now. I have no love lost for them. But this ridiculous narrative that Jamie Raskin et al. started that BigLaw is now in Trump's pocket is laughably stupid and only true partisan wackos are lapping it up.  Unfortunately, "true partisan wackos" now compromise, I'm guessing, hundreds of millions of Americans.  

 

Sorry, you were wrong on that one. Most of these law firms did roll over. I remain surprised that you don't see that.

 

No, you just don't understand the issues at play or what was going on. I've laid it out explicitly, and you still don't understand.  I think last time your excuse was you were busy and flying around a lot. 

 


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Posted : 09/20/2025 7:22 pm
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