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UncleMark
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Posted by: @jdb

good question. I asked ChatGpT and Grok and both indicated that R&D as a percentage of revenue is much higher than direct to consumer (DTC) costs. Apparently this wasn’t the case back in the 70s and 80s where pharma actually spent more on DTC than R&D.

Yeah, but there's a whole helluva lot more spent on marketing beyond DTC.

 


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50y/o. Lisinopril, Extendz


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Posted : 11/19/2025 10:21 am
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Extendz


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and on a related note, another thing that really chaps my ass

yeah, this is supposed to be funny but it is the absolute truth


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@jdb he’s missed.  I’m 54. Finasteride and minoxidil

Did you buy some snake oil too?

Embrace the baldness. I'm 5'1", 320 lbs. and lost my hair at age 12... no Leukemia or other medical condition. Just poor genetics.

 


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and on a related note, another thing that really chaps my ass

yeah, this is supposed to be funny but it is the absolute truth

Prior Auths are the biggest bunch of bullshit and a nightmare for patients, providers, etc. It's certainly one of the best arguments for universal insurance IMO.

 


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Posted : 11/19/2025 3:14 pm
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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Maybe if we banned ads,  prices would go down

I've always wondered how these companies' research budgets compare to their marketing budgets.

 

 

I'll tell you what...

 

When it's late at night and I've taken a gummy, those commercials are like short films.  There's always so much going on.

 


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Posted : 11/19/2025 3:18 pm
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Posted by: @jdb

Posted by: @drjb

and on a related note, another thing that really chaps my ass

yeah, this is supposed to be funny but it is the absolute truth

Prior Auths are the biggest bunch of bullshit and a nightmare for patients, providers, etc. It's certainly one of the best arguments for universal insurance IMO.

 

 

Eliminate the PBMs and you eliminate the prior auths…yes I’m a broken record but it’s the first step towards affordable prescriptions

 


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Posted : 11/19/2025 3:25 pm
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Posted by: @spartans9312

Posted by: @jdb

Posted by: @drjb

and on a related note, another thing that really chaps my ass

yeah, this is supposed to be funny but it is the absolute truth

Prior Auths are the biggest bunch of bullshit and a nightmare for patients, providers, etc. It's certainly one of the best arguments for universal insurance IMO.

 

 

Eliminate the PBMs and you eliminate the prior auths…yes I’m a broken record but it’s the first step towards affordable prescriptions

 

I don't disagree about breaking up PBMs, but that's only part of the Prior Auth battle. If you need elective surgery, inpatient or IOP mental health treatment, etc., you generally need these.

 


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Posted : 11/19/2025 5:52 pm
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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Maybe if we banned ads,  prices would go down

I've always wondered how these companies' research budgets compare to their marketing budgets.

 

 

I'll tell you what...

 

When it's late at night and I've taken a gummy, those commercials are like short films.  There's always so much going on.

 

When I'm looking for a trip, nothing sounds better than a Cialis commercial

 


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Posted by: @jdb

Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @spartans9312

Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Maybe if we banned ads,  prices would go down

I've always wondered how these companies' research budgets compare to their marketing budgets.

 

Nobody knows what the ads are about and Big Pharma; could not care less. PHARMA'S $BILLIONS IN AD SPEND ARE DIRECT PAYOLA SO BIG MEDIA WILL COVER UP THEIR MURDEROUS BUSINESS MODEL.

 

 

 

 

How many medications do you take?

 

6 or 7.

Predominantly heart meds following my open heart surgery May of '21.

Take about 6 supplements /vitamins.

Also Slane Irish Whisky for medicinal purposes.

Now you go....

 

you should stop taking them. That’ll show the  Pharma companies

 

I always take health care advice from random  300+lb 5 foot tall wannabe comics on the webs.

 


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Posted : 11/20/2025 4:59 pm
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Posted by: @spartans9312

Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @spartans9312

Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Maybe if we banned ads,  prices would go down

I've always wondered how these companies' research budgets compare to their marketing budgets.

 

Nobody knows what the ads are about and Big Pharma; could not care less. PHARMA'S $BILLIONS IN AD SPEND ARE DIRECT PAYOLA SO BIG MEDIA WILL COVER UP THEIR MURDEROUS BUSINESS MODEL.

 

 

 

 

How many medications do you take?

 

6 or 7.

Predominantly heart meds following my open heart surgery May of '21.

Take about 6 supplements /vitamins.

Also Slane Irish Whisky for medicinal purposes.

Now you go....

 

 

Bystolic, Nexium, Pravachol, Zyloprim, cold beer for medicinal purposes 

 

Why are you supporting a murderous business model?

 

Given the Pharma Cartels hold on msm, providers, Big Health, Big Government. Etc , my health is held hostage

 


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Posted : 11/20/2025 5:13 pm
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Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @jdb

Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @spartans9312

Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Maybe if we banned ads,  prices would go down

I've always wondered how these companies' research budgets compare to their marketing budgets.

 

Nobody knows what the ads are about and Big Pharma; could not care less. PHARMA'S $BILLIONS IN AD SPEND ARE DIRECT PAYOLA SO BIG MEDIA WILL COVER UP THEIR MURDEROUS BUSINESS MODEL.

 

 

 

 

How many medications do you take?

 

6 or 7.

Predominantly heart meds following my open heart surgery May of '21.

Take about 6 supplements /vitamins.

Also Slane Irish Whisky for medicinal purposes.

Now you go....

 

you should stop taking them. That’ll show the  Pharma companies

 

I always take health care advice from random  300+lb 5 foot tall wannabe comics on the webs.

 

Was it healthcare advice? I think I'm just saying you have a choice and are going against your own values. You should stand tall and practice herbal medicines. Don't feed the Big Pharma beast!

There are retreats around beating cancer and all kinds of shit without Pharma involvement. Book one!

 


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Posted : 11/20/2025 6:30 pm
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@qparker 

 

You trust them with your health but describe it as a murderous business model?

 

Make it make sense 


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Posted : 11/20/2025 9:38 pm
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Posted by: @spartans9312

@qparker 

 

You trust them with your health but describe it as a murderous business model?

 

Make it make sense 

Insipid.

Where did the word trust appear?

There is no contradiction when one is coerced and blackmailed into some level of dependency upon an entity they abhor. 

Big Pharma is the yetzer hara of this era.

 


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