@shooter you’re so dumb it hurts. You realize Hitler was a fascist. No? That the Nazi gov was a fascist regime? That nazism is just a form of fascism. You really are one dumb woke mother fckr lol
Biden called him the biggest threat our country faces and said to put him in the bullseye. We know what happened a short time later.
Saying that that type of language is unacceptable is a valid criticism and fair. Ignoring how incendiary and divisive Trump has been isn't.
Biden was out of line. No question. But this 'one side' narrative being pushed right now is BS.
If you're making the unserious point that he never used those exact words, then you're just wasting everyone's time.Did Biden call Trump a Nazi? No.
Did Harris? No.
Did AOC? No.
Did Pelosi, Schumer, ANY Dem? No.
Did JD Vance? yes.
Did other GOP primary opponents? Yes, I think so.
But if you're actually trying to make a substantive point that Biden et al. did not then or now link Trump to Hitler and use rhetoric to make it seem like he was as dangerous to our nation as Hitler in the '30s, then you're just wrong (or intentionally gaslighting):
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/19/biden-trump-hitler-00132367
Why Biden's campaign keeps linking Trump to Hitler
The Biden campaign warns that Trump’s rhetoric — from "vermin" to "poisoned" blood — could reflect history repeating.
In most situations, comparing a political opponent to Adolf Hitler might seem like an extraordinary step. For Joe Biden’s campaign, it has become part of the routine of running against Donald Trump.
Biden called him the biggest threat our country faces and said to put him in the bullseye. We know what happened a short time later.
Saying that that type of language is unacceptable is a valid criticism and fair. Ignoring how incendiary and divisive Trump has been isn't.
Biden was out of line. No question. But this 'one side' narrative being pushed right now is BS.
Disclaimer this is not in reference to Charlie Kirk.
Just a funny video example to what Ohio posted.
@iunorth agreed. I didn’t mean to communicate that. Only are glad it happened is my position
@bradstevens Harris’ campaign was that he’s a fascist. On a loop. Nothing more
@dbmhoosier Awful choice of words. And one that he, and democrats just have to live with. Or should be forced to, anyways. But one could go back and forth on this and show Trump quotes if that's necessary? Or Tucker Carlson, or Alex Jones, or Sean Hannity... or AOC, or Illan whatever her name is, or Rachel Maddow... Its too bad the good ones have been squeezed out of the limelight by both parties. And we're left with stinking dogshit from both sides controlling the narrative for both parties, and/or usually just Gaslighting the narrative of the other side.
@iunorth the language of trump and maga is terrible. but you keep wanting to both sides things. it's not equal. the left is incredibly violent. there's no comparison between the two. so yes words suck but the left acts on them over and over and over.
i don't know why it's so hard to admit that the dem party is incredibly violent nad has horrible policies. until you do why would it change? it's not like they're winning
@mcm666 Man, I honestly think even that is way overboard. 20 million plus people ARE NOT glad someone murdered Charlie Kirk. I doubt there are that many Democrats that even really knew who he was. I'm NOT a Democrat, though I often sound like one when I'm bashing Trump. But when I heard that someone shot Charlie Kirk, my first thought was he was some professional athlete or something. And then when I saw who he was, my next thought was he's that obnoxious guy that rage baits liberals and has used Trump to make millions.
After finally reading much more about him, watching a ton of his clips and social media stuff, I've come to respect his overall mission, his overall approach, and his willingness to engage with people how he did. Don't agree with a decent chunk of his stances. But he was an impressive young man. I wish he was as example of the extreme on the far right. And someone like him was the extreme on the far left. People with very, very biased and partisan thoughts out there talking about them and engaging with young people on the other side of the aisle. That would be a great "foundation" on either side of all these debates.
I think his "record" of the things he said has been white washed, by many, in recent days... and I have no doubts that "a lot" of people hated him enough to wish him harm, more than should ever be wishing him death...but not even remotely close to approaching the numbers it would take for "half" of Democrats...
@mcm666 parts of it are...just like parts of the right are. Its a relatively "new" phenomena for the left, or maybe less consistent throughout the years... where as the more violent factions of the right are longer standing and more entrenched.
I do think there is something to the more entrenched "protesting culture" on the left that does probably breed a bit more violent events. No science behind that though. And your attempts to fully categorize the left as THE violent party, like the right doesn't have its fair share of Jan 6, Charlottesville, Minnesota Fake Cop Murderer, Gabby Giffords attempted assassinations... it pushes people like me away from your message. Its not a serious message any more.
And I also think the GOP ties a lot of the inner city crime to left ideology. And while there are definitely some linkages...gang and drug violence doesn't need to be wholistically owned by the left. A significant percentage of those sorts of people, committing those sorts of crimes, likely don't give a flying flub what political parties are in charge. And they certainly weren't listening to Charlie Kirk podcasts, and getting bent out of shape over them. They've struggled, and grown, and become bigger problems relatively consistently over the last few decades. The GOP has held power just as much as the Dems throughout that time. Its a cop out, in my opinion, to just say Democratic cities are the problem. A quick google search of the most "dangerous" cities in the US, brought up a number of cities in "red" states... Houston, San Antonio, Nashville, New Orleans, various medium sized cities in the south... get your asses in their and fix your own if you're serious about it...
Having said all that, I think the anger and rage on the extreme left is a serious problem, right now. And I think both parties rallying behind more moderate, considerate, leadership is necessary to tamp it down.
Not sure if this is real or not. Tend to think it's possible simply because of the nose ring. 🤣 Who gets one of those for a comedy bit?
If so, really puts a bad light on the mental and emotional capacity of "DEI Officers" (if there was any question about that).
@iunorth refresh your memory
https://www.commentary.org/articles/noah-rothman/left-excuses-embraces-political-violence/