@mcm666 all agencies must coordinate. This must resolve quickly.
Patel is already bungling shit, claiming they had a suspect in custody -- while everyone else said it was a person of interest. Then they released the guy.
I mean, hopefully the career folks can handle the heavy lifting.
We don’t know enough yet to answer those questions. What gun? What position? What was his target (obviously it was Kirk but did he really hit where he was aiming)?
A head shot that didn't account for the drop properly?
I saw two different experts on two different channels say this wasn't all that difficult of a shot. It required some skill, but not a ton. Someone with a rifle certification from the military could do it easily. I wouldn't know. My limited experience with high-powered rifles tells me I couldn't have done it. But maybe others with a minimum amount of serious training, sure.
But they also said that the main benefit of this kind of shooting is that you give yourself a chance to get away. With minimal security and a large crowd, the shooter, if he's willing to dump the gun, could easily blend in and be escorted out by emergency responders.
We don’t know enough yet to answer those questions. What gun? What position? What was his target (obviously it was Kirk but did he really hit where he was aiming)?
assuming he was either a couple inches high or low depending on head or center mass targeting.
8 inches off at 200 yards would not be considered a good shot. It doesn’t really matter so I’m not sure why I brought it up to be honest.
I’m extremely ready for my son to be off a college campus…but then I have a daughter who will be starting next year. Better buy stock in beer
@mcm666 all agencies must coordinate. This must resolve quickly.
Patel is already bungling shit, claiming they had a suspect in custody -- while everyone else said it was a person of interest. Then they released the guy.
Far be it from me to defend Patel, but I think he called him a "subject" not a "suspect." Could be wrong.
Far be it from me to defend Patel, but I think he called him a “subject” not a “suspect.” Could be wrong.
You are correct. And yes, there is a distinction, but I still think it was poorly handled on his part. To my ear, a "subject" sounds more serious than "person of interest."
Far be it from me to defend Patel, but I think he called him a “subject” not a “suspect.” Could be wrong.
You are correct. And yes, there is a distinction, but I still think it was poorly handled on his part. To my ear, a "subject" sounds more serious than "person of interest."
I don't think he should have been tweeting out updates at all. Made his people at the press conference look like idiots. Made it look like the Feds and locals had no coordination at all. Gave talking heads a reason to bring up the fact that the head of that field office was recently forced out in one of Patel's apparent political purges. Just poorly done all around.
So, yeah, like I said, far be it from me to defend him, but I'm still a pedant.
I said you were part of the problem because you were dishonestly promoting a narrative (and continue to do so) that this type of violence is “substantially a left problem.”
You haven’t said anything that would lead me to think otherwise. And I say that knowing about the Minnesota shootings. Negative performative politics is uniquely a democratic tactic and we see it from every single democratic leader. Left’s conduct and words, including those Biden delivered in Philadelphia, matter. I’m all for sane sensible comments from people like Fetterman, Kelly, and others. When Obama addressed the nation in the wake of the Giffords shooting, I complimented him on the old Water Cooler. That goodwill didn’t last even a few weeks before Obama reverted to the same old crap as he supported the democratic performative takeover of the Wisconsin Capitol. I don’t for a second claim that all in the GOP are angels, but I’ll continue to say that Democratic angry performances and rhetoric leads to violent riots and eventually to a few shooters.
@mcm666 all agencies must coordinate. This must resolve quickly.
Patel is already bungling shit, claiming they had a suspect in custody -- while everyone else said it was a person of interest. Then they released the guy.
Far be it from me to defend Patel, but I think he called him a "subject" not a "suspect." Could be wrong.
He's also dealing with a HS shooting in CO (yes, another one).
@mcm666 all agencies must coordinate. This must resolve quickly.
Patel is already bungling shit, claiming they had a suspect in custody -- while everyone else said it was a person of interest. Then they released the guy.
Far be it from me to defend Patel, but I think he called him a "subject" not a "suspect." Could be wrong.
There is going to be a bunch of pressure on them to get the person. Conservative social media is somewhat losing their shit right now (understandably at the moment, I think) and if you are the party in power and in charge of all of the justice levers of power, you got to get your guy quickly in a situation like this.
I mean, I have been irritated with the GOP as of late and this frankly pisses me off. It is really easy to reflexively go to the, "You know what, eff those other guys" in a situation like this. It was a graphic, public execution of a guy whose "weapon" was debate. And I think there are a bunch on the left who are saying the right things, but they aren't the ones being amplified by the algorithm right now. Social media, to McM's point, is gasoline in situations like this. A few clicks on posts and you are getting the most strident defenders and opponents of whatever the topic of the day is and for whatever reason, people let their worst sides out on social media. I noticed the phenomenon last year around the whole Caitlin Clark/Angel Reese thing. It went from basketball to whites who don't like blacks and blacks who don't like whites really quick.
Everyone needs to turn the dial way down. Way, way down.
I said you were part of the problem because you were dishonestly promoting a narrative (and continue to do so) that this type of violence is “substantially a left problem.”
You haven’t said anything that would lead me to think otherwise. And I say that knowing about the Minnesota shootings. Negative performative politics is uniquely a democratic tactic and we see it from every single democratic leader. Left’s conduct and words, including those Biden delivered in Philadelphia, matter. I’m all for sane sensible comments from people like Fetterman, Kelly, and others. When Obama addressed the nation in the wake of the Giffords shooting, I complimented him on the old Water Cooler. That goodwill didn’t last even a few weeks before Obama reverted to the same old crap as he supported the democratic performative takeover of the Wisconsin Capitol. I don’t for a second claim that all in the GOP are angels, but I’ll continue to say that Democratic angry performances and rhetoric leads to violent riots and eventually to a few shooters.
And this mindset of yours is why I say you're part of the problem. If our polity really is falling apart because the gap between the extremes is widening to the point of threatening the foundations themselves, then we can't fix it by blaming the other side. We have to accept that the problem is bigger than just the opposition.
"Charlie's children will be raised with stories instead of memories, photographs instead of laughter, and silence where their father's voice should have echoed."
Melania Trump
brutal