UBI, same AI houses, Sme AI food and clothes etc will end life.
No, it won't end life. It might not be an attractive life, but I'd rather predict that UBI and effectively free housing, clothing, and food will be how the elites keep the system going in a post-job world. The people who will actually control how AI is implemented don't want a classless society. They want the market to continue. They just want to corner it, in its entirety. That's why I think UBI and those other things you mentioned are inevitable. They are the simplest solution to the question of how to maintain our current capitalist system in a world in which capitalism no longer requires human labor to drive it. The alternate solution is revolution, violence, heads on pikes, all that jazz, so I think the powers that be will find UBI quite attractive.
As for your race car drivers, even in a post-job world, there will still be things for humans to do. They just won't be a big enough part of the economy to keep most people gainfully employed. Sports is probably a good example. It's very hard to see robot sports replacing human sports, simply because the consumers will demand watching human athletes. However, as an avenue for entering the economy, this will be a route available to a precious few.
But, yes, some humans will still find ways to make money. It may even be the only way out of the UBI-dependent masses into some sort of new type of middle class. I was listening this past week to a story on NPR about manufactured diamonds. They've gotten to the point quality-wise that humans can't tell the difference. And they are a lot cheaper. So there is currently in its infancy a growing luxury market for mined diamonds. Some people want to simply be able to say, this rock came from the ground, not a factory, and they will pay a premium to be able to do that. In the future, perhaps some guy who likes to paint will get lucky and sell a lot of paintings to people, even though his work is objectively no better than that produced by computers, simply because those buyers want the status of being able to say, "See this painting? A real human made that." Hell, going back to a repeated trope in this thread, even when they do perfect sex robots, I'm sure there will be people who will be more than willing to pay good money to hire a high-end human escort.
A post-job world doesn't mean we are all sitting around doing nothing. It just means that the world's economic engine is (mostly) divorced from human labor, freeing us up to spend our time doing other things besides finding a way to pay the bills. Some of us may very much enjoy that life. But most of us won't be getting rich doing it. I think the post-job world is very rigidly stratified, with very low social mobility.
If you want to know more, you'll have to wait for my novel.
The elites will need consumers who strive to improve themselves, their lives, and the lives of loved ones. Otherwise the elites won’t have a reason to do elite stuff. In a post job world, human beings won’t have a reason to do anything that humans do, including procreation. You are talking about end of times.
UBI, same AI houses, Sme AI food and clothes etc will end life.
No, it won't end life. It might not be an attractive life, but I'd rather predict that UBI and effectively free housing, clothing, and food will be how the elites keep the system going in a post-job world. The people who will actually control how AI is implemented don't want a classless society. They want the market to continue. They just want to corner it, in its entirety. That's why I think UBI and those other things you mentioned are inevitable. They are the simplest solution to the question of how to maintain our current capitalist system in a world in which capitalism no longer requires human labor to drive it. The alternate solution is revolution, violence, heads on pikes, all that jazz, so I think the powers that be will find UBI quite attractive.
As for your race car drivers, even in a post-job world, there will still be things for humans to do. They just won't be a big enough part of the economy to keep most people gainfully employed. Sports is probably a good example. It's very hard to see robot sports replacing human sports, simply because the consumers will demand watching human athletes. However, as an avenue for entering the economy, this will be a route available to a precious few.
But, yes, some humans will still find ways to make money. It may even be the only way out of the UBI-dependent masses into some sort of new type of middle class. I was listening this past week to a story on NPR about manufactured diamonds. They've gotten to the point quality-wise that humans can't tell the difference. And they are a lot cheaper. So there is currently in its infancy a growing luxury market for mined diamonds. Some people want to simply be able to say, this rock came from the ground, not a factory, and they will pay a premium to be able to do that. In the future, perhaps some guy who likes to paint will get lucky and sell a lot of paintings to people, even though his work is objectively no better than that produced by computers, simply because those buyers want the status of being able to say, "See this painting? A real human made that." Hell, going back to a repeated trope in this thread, even when they do perfect sex robots, I'm sure there will be people who will be more than willing to pay good money to hire a high-end human escort.
A post-job world doesn't mean we are all sitting around doing nothing. It just means that the world's economic engine is (mostly) divorced from human labor, freeing us up to spend our time doing other things besides finding a way to pay the bills. Some of us may very much enjoy that life. But most of us won't be getting rich doing it. I think the post-job world is very rigidly stratified, with very low social mobility.
If you want to know more, you'll have to wait for my novel.
It's really what humanity has been striving for since the beginning. More time to f*ck off. We only started wanting jobs after the Mesopotamians tricked us with their demonic managerial layers.
The elites will need consumers who strive to improve themselves, their lives, and the lives of loved ones. Otherwise the elites won’t have a reason to do elite stuff. In a post job world, human beings won’t have a reason to do anything that humans do, including procreation. You are talking about end of times.
There was a pre job world and we still procreated. "There ain't no romance without finance" is a modern construct. lol.
The elites will need consumers who strive to improve themselves, their lives, and the lives of loved ones. Otherwise the elites won’t have a reason to do elite stuff. In a post job world, human beings won’t have a reason to do anything that humans do, including procreation. You are talking about end of times.
Why? I don't see how the elites need us at all, much less need us to strive to anything. Altman's genie provides everything they need.
How do you think food was acquired before then?UBI, same AI houses, Sme AI food and clothes etc will end life.
No, it won't end life. It might not be an attractive life, but I'd rather predict that UBI and effectively free housing, clothing, and food will be how the elites keep the system going in a post-job world. The people who will actually control how AI is implemented don't want a classless society. They want the market to continue. They just want to corner it, in its entirety. That's why I think UBI and those other things you mentioned are inevitable. They are the simplest solution to the question of how to maintain our current capitalist system in a world in which capitalism no longer requires human labor to drive it. The alternate solution is revolution, violence, heads on pikes, all that jazz, so I think the powers that be will find UBI quite attractive.
As for your race car drivers, even in a post-job world, there will still be things for humans to do. They just won't be a big enough part of the economy to keep most people gainfully employed. Sports is probably a good example. It's very hard to see robot sports replacing human sports, simply because the consumers will demand watching human athletes. However, as an avenue for entering the economy, this will be a route available to a precious few.
But, yes, some humans will still find ways to make money. It may even be the only way out of the UBI-dependent masses into some sort of new type of middle class. I was listening this past week to a story on NPR about manufactured diamonds. They've gotten to the point quality-wise that humans can't tell the difference. And they are a lot cheaper. So there is currently in its infancy a growing luxury market for mined diamonds. Some people want to simply be able to say, this rock came from the ground, not a factory, and they will pay a premium to be able to do that. In the future, perhaps some guy who likes to paint will get lucky and sell a lot of paintings to people, even though his work is objectively no better than that produced by computers, simply because those buyers want the status of being able to say, "See this painting? A real human made that." Hell, going back to a repeated trope in this thread, even when they do perfect sex robots, I'm sure there will be people who will be more than willing to pay good money to hire a high-end human escort.
A post-job world doesn't mean we are all sitting around doing nothing. It just means that the world's economic engine is (mostly) divorced from human labor, freeing us up to spend our time doing other things besides finding a way to pay the bills. Some of us may very much enjoy that life. But most of us won't be getting rich doing it. I think the post-job world is very rigidly stratified, with very low social mobility.
If you want to know more, you'll have to wait for my novel.
It's really what humanity has been striving for since the beginning. More time to f*ck off. We only started wanting jobs after the Mesopotamians tricked us with their demonic managerial layers.
How do you think food was acquired before then?UBI, same AI houses, Sme AI food and clothes etc will end life.
No, it won't end life. It might not be an attractive life, but I'd rather predict that UBI and effectively free housing, clothing, and food will be how the elites keep the system going in a post-job world. The people who will actually control how AI is implemented don't want a classless society. They want the market to continue. They just want to corner it, in its entirety. That's why I think UBI and those other things you mentioned are inevitable. They are the simplest solution to the question of how to maintain our current capitalist system in a world in which capitalism no longer requires human labor to drive it. The alternate solution is revolution, violence, heads on pikes, all that jazz, so I think the powers that be will find UBI quite attractive.
As for your race car drivers, even in a post-job world, there will still be things for humans to do. They just won't be a big enough part of the economy to keep most people gainfully employed. Sports is probably a good example. It's very hard to see robot sports replacing human sports, simply because the consumers will demand watching human athletes. However, as an avenue for entering the economy, this will be a route available to a precious few.
But, yes, some humans will still find ways to make money. It may even be the only way out of the UBI-dependent masses into some sort of new type of middle class. I was listening this past week to a story on NPR about manufactured diamonds. They've gotten to the point quality-wise that humans can't tell the difference. And they are a lot cheaper. So there is currently in its infancy a growing luxury market for mined diamonds. Some people want to simply be able to say, this rock came from the ground, not a factory, and they will pay a premium to be able to do that. In the future, perhaps some guy who likes to paint will get lucky and sell a lot of paintings to people, even though his work is objectively no better than that produced by computers, simply because those buyers want the status of being able to say, "See this painting? A real human made that." Hell, going back to a repeated trope in this thread, even when they do perfect sex robots, I'm sure there will be people who will be more than willing to pay good money to hire a high-end human escort.
A post-job world doesn't mean we are all sitting around doing nothing. It just means that the world's economic engine is (mostly) divorced from human labor, freeing us up to spend our time doing other things besides finding a way to pay the bills. Some of us may very much enjoy that life. But most of us won't be getting rich doing it. I think the post-job world is very rigidly stratified, with very low social mobility.
If you want to know more, you'll have to wait for my novel.
It's really what humanity has been striving for since the beginning. More time to f*ck off. We only started wanting jobs after the Mesopotamians tricked us with their demonic managerial layers.
By small, diffused business units utilizing flat org charts to create horizontal synergies while streamlining operations and driving shareholder value.
How do you think food was acquired before then?UBI, same AI houses, Sme AI food and clothes etc will end life.
No, it won't end life. It might not be an attractive life, but I'd rather predict that UBI and effectively free housing, clothing, and food will be how the elites keep the system going in a post-job world. The people who will actually control how AI is implemented don't want a classless society. They want the market to continue. They just want to corner it, in its entirety. That's why I think UBI and those other things you mentioned are inevitable. They are the simplest solution to the question of how to maintain our current capitalist system in a world in which capitalism no longer requires human labor to drive it. The alternate solution is revolution, violence, heads on pikes, all that jazz, so I think the powers that be will find UBI quite attractive.
As for your race car drivers, even in a post-job world, there will still be things for humans to do. They just won't be a big enough part of the economy to keep most people gainfully employed. Sports is probably a good example. It's very hard to see robot sports replacing human sports, simply because the consumers will demand watching human athletes. However, as an avenue for entering the economy, this will be a route available to a precious few.
But, yes, some humans will still find ways to make money. It may even be the only way out of the UBI-dependent masses into some sort of new type of middle class. I was listening this past week to a story on NPR about manufactured diamonds. They've gotten to the point quality-wise that humans can't tell the difference. And they are a lot cheaper. So there is currently in its infancy a growing luxury market for mined diamonds. Some people want to simply be able to say, this rock came from the ground, not a factory, and they will pay a premium to be able to do that. In the future, perhaps some guy who likes to paint will get lucky and sell a lot of paintings to people, even though his work is objectively no better than that produced by computers, simply because those buyers want the status of being able to say, "See this painting? A real human made that." Hell, going back to a repeated trope in this thread, even when they do perfect sex robots, I'm sure there will be people who will be more than willing to pay good money to hire a high-end human escort.
A post-job world doesn't mean we are all sitting around doing nothing. It just means that the world's economic engine is (mostly) divorced from human labor, freeing us up to spend our time doing other things besides finding a way to pay the bills. Some of us may very much enjoy that life. But most of us won't be getting rich doing it. I think the post-job world is very rigidly stratified, with very low social mobility.
If you want to know more, you'll have to wait for my novel.
It's really what humanity has been striving for since the beginning. More time to f*ck off. We only started wanting jobs after the Mesopotamians tricked us with their demonic managerial layers.
By small, diffused business units utilizing flat org charts to create horizontal synergies while streamlining operations and driving shareholder value.
By small, diffused business units utilizing flat org charts to create horizontal synergies while streamlining operations and driving shareholder value.
This is what a Kelley degree buys you.
Probably nothing.
Those AI can do 1000x better and faster. Go flip burgers and climb roofs.
Probably nothing.
Those AI can do 1000x better and faster. Go flip burgers and climb roofs.
The kids will want to form a politburo before flipping burgers or climbing roofs. Also not sure they have the stamina for either.
