The truth is, if the incumbent L.A. Mayor Karen Bass was "rigging" the election, she would have wanted Pratt to come in 2nd so she be a shoo-in to win, running as a D vs. R in a 70% D area.
Nithya Raman advancing over Spencer Pratt means a much much tighter / less certain D vs. D race.
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
Even the Republican candidate for Governor says claims of election fraud are baseless.
@aloha-hoosier @shooter you guys simply do not get it no matter how many times it's explained. perception is what matters. if tens of millions of people don't believe elections are secure that's a problem that will fester. it doesn't matter if they are wrong. so shut them up. the remedy is simple. voter id dates certain in person. period.
Voter fraud has nothing to do with that, it's just heavily Democratic and that's too bad.
Election rigging is baked into the California system and it’s all legal.
California leads the nation in motor- voter registration. It also leads the nation in illegals or non- citizens having a driver’s license and ergo voter registration.
Every registered voter is mailed a ballot.
While an attempt is made to verify voter signatures, if the voter merely makes a mark, which is witnessed, there is no verification of witnesses.
Ballot harvesting is legal and anybody can do it. Political operatives routinely pick and choose who to harvest and if a voter hasn’t voted, could probably help the voter vote. Harvesting ballots at the last minute could easily explain why late arriving ballots are usually skewed.
At no time is citizenship verified other than the registrant’s word.
Of course the California congressional delegation strongly resists federal changes.
In 2018, 60% of all Cali ballots were mailed.@bar-down The current system is a byproduct of Covid and it's a horrible system. They don't do anything to clean up the rolls and there's all those ballots being sent to people at addresses that aren't theirs. Ballot harvesting is another issue. More reasons why I'm glad I don't live there.
What was the breakdown of Dem vs Republican?
Shut them up by telling the truth. Demand EVIDENCE when the cockwomble-in-chief or his minions makes stupid, unfounded accusations. Be a Kristen Welker.
You don't shut up flat Earthers by saying "sure, we'll teach both sides now!". Don't cave in to ignorance. Sure, some voters like you are incredibly stupid and freely admit that they don't even know how to inflate a tire. But educate them. At least try. Not many will be as stupid as you.
Ironically a very bad voting system in California, one that Dems including Newsome are calling to fix, got worse in response to Pub demands for extra layers of scrutiny over ballot signatures and checking every voter to make sure that they didn't vote twice, a manufactured "problem" that had never happened.
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
Of course I get it. Perception is one thing, people falsely claiming voter fraud is another. The leader of the latter is the President which has baselessly increased the perception.@aloha-hoosier @shooter you guys simply do not get it no matter how many times it's explained. perception is what matters. if tens of millions of people don't believe elections are secure that's a problem that will fester. it doesn't matter if they are wrong. so shut them up. the remedy is simple. voter id dates certain in person. period.
I advocated for voter ID for years before you were here - I'm a strong proponent of that. I'm also a proponent of voting by mail which I've done since the mid 80s. It can be made just as secure as voting in person is - and it is that secure in many states. Ohio, for example does a great job with it. Not sure about Arizona because I've not voted here yet.
@shooter no no no no no. you remove the excuses they can use to believe fraud occurs. that's how you shut them up. you make voting in person with an id. period. explain to me why dems don't want to do that? and perhaps the answer is why pubs are suspicious. there are no valid excuses for not voting in person and presenting a proper id. none.
@aloha-hoosier i disagree on mail for myriad reasons including time. no more mail. only military and disabled. everyone else can get off their asses and go vote in person. with an id
I don't know who else here has actually lived in California as I have. There is much not to like about the way California does things, including voting. For those that want to know what the actual voting laws and policies are:Voter fraud has nothing to do with that, it's just heavily Democratic and that's too bad.
Election rigging is baked into the California system and it’s all legal.
California leads the nation in motor- voter registration. It also leads the nation in illegals or non- citizens having a driver’s license and ergo voter registration.
Every registered voter is mailed a ballot.
While an attempt is made to verify voter signatures, if the voter merely makes a mark, which is witnessed, there is no verification of witnesses.
Ballot harvesting is legal and anybody can do it. Political operatives routinely pick and choose who to harvest and if a voter hasn’t voted, could probably help the voter vote. Harvesting ballots at the last minute could easily explain why late arriving ballots are usually skewed.
At no time is citizenship verified other than the registrant’s word.
Of course the California congressional delegation strongly resists federal changes.
Voting in California - Ballotpedia
Vacation, attending weddings or whatever in another state, attending away games of various sports, temporarily working in another state or even having to work in another area of your own state away from your voting precinct, working overseas (private or government workers), ill, and on and on. There are tons and tons of reasons for having mail in voting option.@shooter no no no no no. you remove the excuses they can use to believe fraud occurs. that's how you shut them up. you make voting in person with an id. period. explain to me why dems don't want to do that? and perhaps the answer is why pubs are suspicious. there are no valid excuses for not voting in person and presenting a proper id. none.
I've spent hours here (on pervious boards) talking about preventing voter fraud and advocating for voter ID and citizen verification. I think one fraudulent vote is one too many - though of course there will be a few every election. However, I'm also a believer in the necessity and convenience of mail in voting. Obviously, started that in the military, but I continued after. It certainly can be very secure. I did vote in person in Ohio in the 2020 election to see that process and it was good, but I didn't think it was any more secure than my voting by mail there. Of course, it was less convenient.
Voting by mail is something I had never done until recent years. Now I doubt that I will ever do it any other way. I never vote a straight ticket and I research every race. Sure, I could do the research at home, go to the polls and wait in line, with crib notes on who I had earlier decided to vote for. But I can instead do the research as home, decide, and check off the proper candidate right then and there. Then move to the next race. And so on. Taking days if I need to, making well-informed freshly-researched decisions, on a ballot with a secure verified signature, a secure PIN number, and a ballot that I was only mailed because I had shown valid voter ID in person. Then when I mail in my ballot, I get a confirmation that it has been received. If someone had tried to vote for me, there is a process to report it.
Unfortunately Florida is making it harder to vote by mail. I am a verified voter but for each election I now have to re-sign-up to vote by mail. Pain in the ass, just to satisfy the conspiracy theorists who think voters using intelligence and voting in a secure fashion are somehow pulling one over on somebody, because an orange turd, a shitshain on our nation's history, said so.
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
@aloha-hoosier there are many ways to address in person voting that remedy the inconveniences you state. if you won powerball would you mail in your winning ticket? of course not. you'd show up in person. why? because it's more secure. the mail invites too many problems. disabled and military of course. the rest show up.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/mail-thieves-election-ballots-south-bay/4094757/
Ballots found with fire damage in downtown LA drop box
san jose la. it happens all over hte country every election. mail is not good.
your personal experience and opinion is in keeping with the value of all your personal experiences and opinions....