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BradStevens
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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2026/03/05/in-25-country-survey-americans-especially-likely-to-view-fellow-citizens-as-morally-bad/

From the article:

Americans are more likely than people in other countries surveyed in 2025 to question the morality of their fellow countrymen, according to Pew Research Center surveys in 25 countries.

We asked people around the world to rate the morality and ethics of others in their country.

A bar chart showing that In many countries, people see their fellow citizens as morally good

In nearly all countries surveyed, more people say that others in their country have somewhat or very good morals than say their compatriots display somewhat or very bad levels of morality.

The United States is the only place we surveyed where more adults (ages 18 and older) describe the morality and ethics of others living in the country as bad (53%) than as good (47%).

Because we have never asked this question before, we don’t know whether a majority of Americans have long held a skeptical view of the ethics of fellow Americans, or if it’s something new – and if so, what’s driving it. But partisan politics appear to play a role.


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Topic starter Posted : 03/22/2026 6:24 pm
BradStevens
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It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  


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Topic starter Posted : 03/22/2026 6:25 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

 

The UK and Canada don’t seem to have the same problem…. But they’ve all submitted themselves under the banner of collectivism. Independent thought need not apply. 

Pierre Polievre was on Rogan last week. When the topic of Trudeau came up he said something that almost made my jaw drop.

“I won’t criticize him on foreign soil”

Been a long time since we’ve seen that kind of solidarity in America if we ever have. 

 

 

 


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Posted : 03/22/2026 6:39 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 


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Posted : 03/22/2026 7:00 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 

Do you think of them as diverse in the same way as the U.S.?  I feel like the number and recency of transplants here makes it a different type of thing.  Maybe not?

 


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Topic starter Posted : 03/22/2026 7:10 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 

Do you think of them as diverse in the same way as the U.S.?  I feel like the number and recency of transplants here makes it a different type of thing.  Maybe not?

 

It’s not close to the same. They may claim many different dialects and ethnicities but they all have ancestry in that region and the only thing that really divides them today is religions. 

 


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Posted : 03/22/2026 7:12 pm
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Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 

Do you think of them as diverse in the same way as the U.S.?  I feel like the number and recency of transplants here makes it a different type of thing.  Maybe not?

 

It’s not close to the same. They may claim many different dialects and ethnicities but they all have ancestry in that region and the only thing that really divides them today is religions. 

 

 

Yep…you don’t shake hands with any of them left-handed

 


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Posted : 03/22/2026 7:14 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 

Do you think of them as diverse in the same way as the U.S.?  I feel like the number and recency of transplants here makes it a different type of thing.  Maybe not?

 

Migration could be the x factor. India especially has both the linguistic and religious diversity America does, but on a much larger scale. But most of those languages and religions have been on the subcontinent for millennia. Indonesia looks more like the US, with a dominant religion and a handful of minority religions of importance, but linguistically, they are far more diverse than we are. But, again, to your point, most of those languages are native to the area; they weren't recently imported. The imported languages (Dutch, English, Chinese, etc.) have largely been socialized into the background.

 


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Posted : 03/22/2026 7:23 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 

Do you think of them as diverse in the same way as the U.S.?  I feel like the number and recency of transplants here makes it a different type of thing.  Maybe not?

 

Canada is the far better comparison to us. 

 


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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 

Do you think of them as diverse in the same way as the U.S.?  I feel like the number and recency of transplants here makes it a different type of thing.  Maybe not?

 

Canada is the far better comparison to us. 

 

Yeah, but they suck, so . . . 


GIF

 


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Topic starter Posted : 03/22/2026 7:48 pm
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@bradstevens 

 

@bradstevens 

Having thought about this I hafta say this poll is not surprising. The important question is why. From my point of view, this condition is a relatively recent phenomenon. I think the Tucker Carlson interview @jdb posted in the Civil War thread speaks to this. In sum, we simply don’t like each other. We do not have the ability to disagree. We are losing, or have lost, mutual admiration and respect for our past. That admiration and respect held us together. Who would have ever thought the USA gold medal in hockey could be a treason for divisive comments?  Not me. I never thought I could lose a friend because of politics, but it happened.  

To overcome division and hate, we need discover and return to admiration and respect for opposing points of view, traditions, historical figures, others, and ourselves. That’s a tall order when we assume anyone who doesn’t hold our views is deplorable, ignorant, or dumb. 


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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 

Are those good comparisons, though? Diversity in linguistics and religion does not account for the idea that these peoples have been living in or near each other for much longer than in the U.S., which is not just a young country, but one that was previously uninhabited by the majority of those now walking its ground. Think about how many millions of people immigrated and from how many different places.

 


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Posted : 03/24/2026 11:08 am
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But partisan politics appear to play a role.

If that were the case, you would expect different results among UK and other European responses. There is political partisanship across the pond, and it's growing at the same clip or faster than it is here. You just aren't hearing about it because the MSM refuses to acknowledge the shit show that mass Islamic immigration has caused.

I don't put that much stock in this type of stuff. To be frank, when was the last time educated, working people voted in these polls? I haven't and neither have any of my friends and family, to my knowledge. So, who the hell is the data actually being collected from?


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Posted : 03/24/2026 11:12 am
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 

Do you think of them as diverse in the same way as the U.S.?  I feel like the number and recency of transplants here makes it a different type of thing.  Maybe not?

 

Canada is the far better comparison to us. 

 

Canada can have its win while its economy is in shambles and its demographics are worse than ours. It needs mass immigration to sustain itself with a lower birth rate and older median age.

 


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Posted : 03/24/2026 11:15 am
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

It seems bad, I guess, but in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, I think this is to be expected.  

India and Indonesia are extremely diverse, and they are on the other end of the list.

 

Do you think of them as diverse in the same way as the U.S.?  I feel like the number and recency of transplants here makes it a different type of thing.  Maybe not?

 

Canada is the far better comparison to us. 

 

Yeah, but they suck, so . . . 


GIF

 

These losers haven't had a Stanley Cup winner since 1993. 

 


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