I sure hope the story about IU (Dolson) being sold on DeVries from the results of a couple games played by WVU in the Bahamas are false. Not very smart to hire a head college basketball coach based on such a small sample of play. As we know you can't put it past Indiana as they have been making stupid decisions on the basketball program for many years.Im sure thats the story... From the Indiana side.
Dolson just didnt have the charisma to bring it home.
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The story from the Indiana side is that they knew they wanted CDD from the moment they saw WVU in the Bahamas.
McCollum is from Iowa. Wife is an Iowa grad. Grew up an Iowa fan. He wasn't going to come here from the moment the McCaffrey seat got hot in Iowa City.
He wasn't in the first 5 calls. I was told he was in the second set of 5, but the first 5 included some guys (Stevens and Donovan were named) that were Hail Marys because you have to say that you made the call. There's still a lot of outside noise around the HC job here, and as much as I hate to agree with Cav (j/k, kinda), I don't think this is the desirable job we think it is. I didn't think that a year ago.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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I sure hope the story about IU (Dolson) being sold on DeVries from the results of a couple games played by WVU in the Bahamas are false. Not very smart to hire a head college basketball coach based on such a small sample of play. As we know you can't put it past Indiana as they have been making stupid decisions on the basketball program for many years.Im sure thats the story... From the Indiana side.
Dolson just didnt have the charisma to bring it home.
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The story from the Indiana side is that they knew they wanted CDD from the moment they saw WVU in the Bahamas.
McCollum is from Iowa. Wife is an Iowa grad. Grew up an Iowa fan. He wasn't going to come here from the moment the McCaffrey seat got hot in Iowa City.
He wasn't in the first 5 calls. I was told he was in the second set of 5, but the first 5 included some guys (Stevens and Donovan were named) that were Hail Marys because you have to say that you made the call. There's still a lot of outside noise around the HC job here, and as much as I hate to agree with Cav (j/k, kinda), I don't think this is the desirable job we think it is. I didn't think that a year ago.
We pulled the HC from a middle of the pack B12 school. Probably only a handful of programs in the country could do that.
And Scott had to pay up to do that.
I was only on McCollum because of the boards posters who were on McCollum. I didn't know of him (heard of him) until the last month or so before the hiring. And I thought 'wow, this guy has a pedigree of winning!' plus reading comments of other coaches picking his brain, etc. Could see he was highly regarded even as a DII guy. That type coach was how I thought we could pick a gem that other schools hadn't yet. Similar to Cig. Similar to DeBoer.
Oh well. Lets hope our man can do it, at a very high level. I see other coaches winning fairly big where I won't feel outgunned having DeVries on the Xs and Os . There are a few middle of the road tacticians who can recruit so they are elite overall.
@hoosiers94 Stirtz is better than anyone we had this year too, though.
I am curious to see who UNC gets. Kentucky wasn’t able to land a big fish nor was Louisville.
As for DeVries, I was immediately disappointed in the hire. I felt the same way about Woodson. Cignetti I thought was a good hire. My gut is usually right.
I was told he was in the second set of 5, but the first 5 included some guys (Stevens and Donovan were named)
This is what you do when you have a preferred contractor but your policy makes you put the job out for bids. You offer it to your guy, and several others who you know have no interest or will be way too expensive. Then you get to hire the guy you wanted and still (technically) follow the rules.
I sure hope the story about IU (Dolson) being sold on DeVries from the results of a couple games played by WVU in the Bahamas are false. Not very smart to hire a head college basketball coach based on such a small sample of play. As we know you can't put it past Indiana as they have been making stupid decisions on the basketball program for many years.Im sure thats the story... From the Indiana side.
Dolson just didnt have the charisma to bring it home.
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The story from the Indiana side is that they knew they wanted CDD from the moment they saw WVU in the Bahamas.
McCollum is from Iowa. Wife is an Iowa grad. Grew up an Iowa fan. He wasn't going to come here from the moment the McCaffrey seat got hot in Iowa City.
He wasn't in the first 5 calls. I was told he was in the second set of 5, but the first 5 included some guys (Stevens and Donovan were named) that were Hail Marys because you have to say that you made the call. There's still a lot of outside noise around the HC job here, and as much as I hate to agree with Cav (j/k, kinda), I don't think this is the desirable job we think it is. I didn't think that a year ago.
Is St. Johns that desirable of a job? They got Rick Pitino. You can still get a big name hire at IU you just have to put aside your " holier than thou " stance and be willing to hire someone who is not pure as the driven snow. Seems to me the best hires we made were the first two in sampson and crean. It has been downhill ever since.
@hoosiers94 Stirtz is better than anyone we had this year too, though.
Better than anyone we had at point for sure.
Stirtz and Wilkerson in the same backcourt? Yes, please! Those two with an athletic big would be money.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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Todd Golden may have cost his team a S16 by messing up the full court defense on that last play. But he won a National Title last year so Im sure he has plenty of room for error.
But winning out of the gate is not necessarily a predictor of long term success (says Steve Fisher of UM or Mike Davis of IU).
On the other hand, many of us on the old board couldn't manage to convince people that Dusty May was a good hire for Indiana. That ship has certainly sailed.
McCollum has done something few have at Iowa, but he hasn't done it convincingly. Iowa was about one loss away from being a bubble team.
DeVries gets his couple years. That's about all there is to say. If he can get things looking positive by this time next year, he may last a while.
Steve Fischer and Mike Davis coached in a different era and I would hardly say fischer did not have long term success. One title and two runner ups is pretty darn good. In this day and age with the portal if you are not doing well after two years you pretty much can tell that is what you are going to get.
| Michigan Wolverines (Big Ten Conference) (1989–1997) | ||||||||
| *1988–89 | Michigan | 6–0 | NCAA Division I champion | |||||
| 1989–90 | Michigan | 23–8 | 12–6 | 3rd | NCAA Division I Round of 32 | |||
| 1990–91 | Michigan | 14–15 | 7–11 | 8th | NIT first round | |||
| ^1991–92 | Michigan | 25–9 | 11–7 | T–3rd | NCAA Division I Runner-up | |||
| ^^1992–93 | Michigan | 31–5 | 15–3 | 2nd | NCAA Division I Runner-up | |||
| 1993–94 | Michigan | 24–8 | 13–5 | 2nd | NCAA Division I Elite Eight | |||
| 1994–95 | Michigan | 17–14 | 11–7 | T–3rd | NCAA Division I Round of 64 | |||
| ^^1995–96 | Michigan | 21–11 | 10–8 | T–5th | NCAA Division I Round of 64 | |||
| ^^1996–97 | Michigan | 24–11 | 9–9 | T–6th | NIT champion | |||
I am curious to see who UNC gets. Kentucky wasn’t able to land a big fish nor was Louisville.
As for DeVries, I was immediately disappointed in the hire. I felt the same way about Woodson. Cignetti I thought was a good hire. My gut is usually right.
Todd Golden may have cost his team a S16 by messing up the full court defense on that last play. But he won a National Title last year so Im sure he has plenty of room for error.
But winning out of the gate is not necessarily a predictor of long term success (says Steve Fisher of UM or Mike Davis of IU).
On the other hand, many of us on the old board couldn't manage to convince people that Dusty May was a good hire for Indiana. That ship has certainly sailed.
McCollum has done something few have at Iowa, but he hasn't done it convincingly. Iowa was about one loss away from being a bubble team.
DeVries gets his couple years. That's about all there is to say. If he can get things looking positive by this time next year, he may last a while.
Steve Fischer and Mike Davis coached in a different era and I would hardly say fischer did not have long term success. One title and two runner ups is pretty darn good. In this day and age with the portal if you are not doing well after two years you pretty much can tell that is what you are going to get.
Michigan Wolverines (Big Ten Conference) (1989–1997) *1988–89 Michigan 6–0 NCAA Division I champion 1989–90 Michigan 23–8 12–6 3rd NCAA Division I Round of 32 1990–91 Michigan 14–15 7–11 8th NIT first round ^1991–92 Michigan 25–9 11–7 T–3rd NCAA Division I Runner-up ^^1992–93 Michigan 31–5 15–3 2nd NCAA Division I Runner-up 1993–94 Michigan 24–8 13–5 2nd NCAA Division I Elite Eight 1994–95 Michigan 17–14 11–7 T–3rd NCAA Division I Round of 64 ^^1995–96 Michigan 21–11 10–8 T–5th NCAA Division I Round of 64 ^^1996–97 Michigan 24–11 9–9 T–6th NIT champion
This day and age is all of about 3-4 years old, so far too early to make that unequivocal proclaimation.
I sure hope the story about IU (Dolson) being sold on DeVries from the results of a couple games played by WVU in the Bahamas are false. Not very smart to hire a head college basketball coach based on such a small sample of play. As we know you can't put it past Indiana as they have been making stupid decisions on the basketball program for many years.Im sure thats the story... From the Indiana side.
Dolson just didnt have the charisma to bring it home.
,
The story from the Indiana side is that they knew they wanted CDD from the moment they saw WVU in the Bahamas.
McCollum is from Iowa. Wife is an Iowa grad. Grew up an Iowa fan. He wasn't going to come here from the moment the McCaffrey seat got hot in Iowa City.
He wasn't in the first 5 calls. I was told he was in the second set of 5, but the first 5 included some guys (Stevens and Donovan were named) that were Hail Marys because you have to say that you made the call. There's still a lot of outside noise around the HC job here, and as much as I hate to agree with Cav (j/k, kinda), I don't think this is the desirable job we think it is. I didn't think that a year ago.
The same conversations are starting right now about potential openings at UNC and Kansas. We'd all agree those are better opportunities than IU was when we hired Devries, yet the talking heads I've been listening to are saying there's very little reason to believe that some of the current top guys would leave their current jobs for these openings. Now, we may learn that these talking heads opinion's end up being wrong, but many are saying that if you're already at Michigan, Florida, Arizona, Alabama, etc. then there's no advantage of going to UNC or Kansas. My hunch is that one of those two jobs will pull in a big name and the other will get someone who may end up being a good hire, but won't be seen as a slam dunk success.
@arioznahoosier4554 Pitino is damaged goods. Way too high on the slimeball chart for most schools to touch.
@gros-louis was reading an article on si.com earlier about the coaching carousel. UNC and Kansas both mentioned as potential openings, with UNC being the hottest seat. Regarding UNC, the article stated that the job will likely draw elite interest, such as Billy Donovan, Tommy Lloyd, and Otzelberger. If I'm Tommy Lloyd, there's no way I leave Zona for UNC. There's no reason to. His chance to win a title at Arizona is on par with UNC. He has plenty of regional talent to choose from and I'm sure he has plenty of NIL support. Otzelberger would be more likely. I guess we'll see how much Donovan wants to come back to college. I imagine the job at UNC could bring him back. Kentucky, too, when the eventually dump Pope.
Article also mentioned Jacque Vaughn as a potential replacement for Self when he retires. He's already on staff, brought in from the NBA, so maybe they're grooming him to take over in the next couple of years.