@gros-louis Not sure what he meant... but the players on the list Ge Off provided cover what we're lacking quite a lot more than Wang does, in my opinion. I guess it wouldn't have to be an either/or situation though... I'd go from grumpy to immediately very excited if we happened to get both Fuchs and Wang, as an example.
... Might not have to worry about Wang, the people at 247 Sports are reporting he's seriously considering U Mass. Got to think Massachusetts can provide far, far more playing time than IU. ...
I watched Glengarry Glen Ross a few days ago, for the first time. And the answer to the above problem is LIE. Lie our butts off.
"Sure we see 25-30 minutes a game, in the Big Ten! If you continue to develop the way we think you can." Then when they only play 10-12 minutes, well, not everybody develops...
Jut kidding of course. But seems like BS is par for the course in recruiting.
Wang is choosing between the money and small role IU is offering versus the opportunity to start at UMass. I think UMass is likely to be the choice (no inside information on that one but he was on the IU visit and did not commit...to me, that indicates he won't be. I could be wrong about that. I am doing some research and trying to find players that might make sense (both portal and international).
Former Hoosier (sorta) Aleksa Ristic has committed to Belmont, best of luck to him.
... Might not have to worry about Wang, the people at 247 Sports are reporting he's seriously considering U Mass. Got to think Massachusetts can provide far, far more playing time than IU. ...I watched Glengarry Glen Ross a few days ago, for the first time. And the answer to the above problem is LIE. Lie our butts off.
"Sure we see 25-30 minutes a game, in the Big Ten! If you continue to develop the way we think you can." Then when they only play 10-12 minutes, well, not everybody develops...
Jut kidding of course. But seems like BS is par for the course in recruiting.
Like Painter telling TKR he has a chance at playing the 3, then putting him in the weight room and turning him into a goon.
That kind of stuff is not a good long term success plan, do it too much and the word gets out. Better to be brutally honest.
...I lived near Belmont for about 10 years. Good little program, or used to be. I'd be invested in following Ristic if he had played more than a few minutes all year for us. But yes, good luck to him.Former Hoosier (sorta) Aleksa Ristic has committed to Belmont, best of luck to him.
Agreed on being honest. The right policy.... Like Painter telling TKR he has a chance at playing the 3, then putting him in the weight room and turning him into a goon. ...
Wouldn't think TKR has any complaints though, the way it has turned out for him. I guess he's marginal NBA prospect, but could he have been any better?
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IU is attempting to get a visit from incoming freshman Ladarius Givan. He played for Team Loaded in AAU so there is a connection to new assistant Thomas Carr. Givan was committed to Mississippi State, reopened his recruitment and is now deciding between six "finalists" including IU, LSU (who doesn't currently have a remotely filled roster) and others. He is a 6'9" forward and if IU locks down a visit, I'll provide a more in-depth breakdown of what he offers. For now, just an interesting name to be aware of.
I get it - who is that player? I just looked at the available guys an those 4 were it - guys higher up already committed. Anyone better has been grabbed up4 that I see would fit the bill:
Fuchs
Randolph
Wicks
Robinson
Those guys might be fine depth, but that isn't really how I interpreted R&R's complaint. He's pretty much saying the 7th best C in the portal is going to be a bust, so we need someone better than him.
@redandrowdy I don't think IU needs a stud with any of their last 3 spots. Obviously that would be great, but we've established a rotation that should be capable of competing with most of the best teams in the B10. But, we are thin in a couple areas, yet. 1) Post depth. I personally don't see Wang as any sort of B10 caliber post player. He's tall. But he isn't going to guard, bang, rebound, etc... in the B10. We need a strong athlete that could. 2)Wing strength and athleticism. Currently, I'd say Mustaf might be the only guy that fits that description, and he'll probably spend a lot of time guarding opposing teams best perimeter playmakers. It would be nice to have a 6-5 ish "dawg" that you could throw out there to guard and rebound, when needed.
I think we have a dynamic playmaking lead guard in Burton. We have a microwave type scorer in Lindsay. We have a solid 2 way guard in Mustaf. We have a very solid shooter, with some length, in Harris. We have a top end big in Sherrell. We have a rim protection and effective rebounding in Sherrell and Yiggy. I think Sisley should provide some versatile depth for either wing or post play, wherever its needed. And I think its a fair assumption that at least one of the freshmen will break through and be main rotation contributors. My best guess on that would be Moody. And if it is Moody, he'll add a playmaker to the backcourt.
I personally think its a team and roster that should start pushing for top 3rd of the conference. I think to solidify that, and create more realistic opportunities to push for top quarter of the conference, adding a couple B10 caliber athletes, to help defend and rebound in key spots, could be what helps us pick up those extra 2-3 conference wins that will be the difference between 3rd place and 7th place... types of finishes.
If they are fortunate to get a "stud", really any sort of starter caliber player... especially if its a big... I think that raises their floor to top half of conference. And raises their ceiling to winning the B10. That hole in depth, and the question marks, that one more stud would solve, are pretty huge.
One wing type that we're said to have looked at is Josiah Parker 6'7" 225 lbs from Florida Atlantic, ranked #100 in the portal. Freshman this year, a rebounder but not a shooter. Reminds me of Harris, who all of a sudden isn't looking that bad right about now.
I liked the stat lines for a 6'9" unraked transfer kid NW just got, named Federiko, another freshman this year.
I agree we don't necessarily need a 7 footer. Just a 6 7 to 6 9 who is somewhat athletic and can rebound. Want wasn't, and couldn't. Sisley was a much better rebounder than him. The question I raised is whether we are looking for anyone who has the potential to take serious time away from our 6 transfers, 3 freshmen, and Sisley. The end this year presently looks exactly like the end of last year.
I wouldn't categorize my comment as a complaint. More of a concern. I would love to have a little margin for error. I'm not predicting Yigi to be a total "bust" but I also don't think he's going to have the impact that many on here think he will. I hope I am wrong, but yeah....I would like to have a 3rd guy who can give us minutes down low in case he IS a bust. Would you consider Bailey to have been a "bust" last year?? I'm not sure I would b/c IIRC, it was posted on here that he pretty well performed to "what he's always been" which wasn't good enough. I can see the same scenario working out with Yigi. Once again, I hope I'm wrong and the kid really turns up the wick.4 that I see would fit the bill:
Fuchs
Randolph
Wicks
Robinson
Those guys might be fine depth, but that isn't really how I interpreted R&R's complaint. He's pretty much saying the 7th best C in the portal is going to be a bust, so we need someone better than him.